any planned for The Diaden

i just wonder i kind hope see that revied in 4.2

Diadem is dead and buried, and thank fuck for it. Diadem flopped twice even with a complete overhaul, and they will not do anymore work on it.

I want to see Diadem reworked, possibly as a leveling area. Or if we could just jump in there unsynced without needing a whole party and stuff. It straight up sucks that so many things in this game aren't designed with anything else beyond the immediate future (one patch) in mind.

Yoshi P said during one of his New Year's JP-only Q&As (I think Gungnir) that they still haven't decided on if they want to retouch Diadem or close it and give players a different way to get stuff from it (because they are too busy with Eureka)

I hear rumor Eureka will be just that. Glad they didn't abandon the concept in that case. Diadem was great content, and the only reason it didn't work out was poor implementation.

I'm pretty sure the devs are considering just closing it and moving rewards over to other things. I believe it was mentioned in the New Year's Q&A.

I have literally never been able to get into Diadem, so I'm hoping this is the case so we have a means to earn the white Pegasus mount and minion.

It will be a sad day if they ever close diadem without offering an acceptable replacement. Only non painful way to get shards.

At this point, closing it would be best and relocating the mounts, minions and Emergency Mission to Eureka.

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Originally Posted by Bourne_Endeavor

At this point, closing it would be best and relocating the mounts, minions and Emergency Mission to Eureka.

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This raises a concern with me since Diadem is so difficult to enter from the lack of activity. If Eureka is Diadem 2, wouldn't the same problem occur when the 5.0 relic came along?

From what we can gather according to past interwiew they want for eureka for you to be able to get inside and party up with ppl there instead of needing to queing for it, but I could be wrong that said you are not wrong that unless they allows you to enter solo it'll eventually have the same problem that diadem has now.

Tbh they should just remove the lvl cap on it and allow ppl to get inside alone wouldn't mind it as a place to gather old materials without me beign locked by timers

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Originally Posted by Ametrine

This raises a concern with me since Diadem is so difficult to enter from the lack of activity. If Eureka is Diadem 2, wouldn't the same problem occur when the 5.0 relic came along?

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Yoshi P specified that Eureka will not be anything like Diadem.

Just make it part of the open world and let folks do what they would do in any other area. That is solo gather or group up as needed for hunts and FATES.

The Diadem could easily be revived by adding new rewards every now and then.

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Originally Posted by Theodric

The Diadem could easily be revived by adding new rewards every now and then.

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Diadem sucks on a fundamental level, so I’d honestly hate this.

Like, who on the dev team is deluded enough to think that partying up and doing overturned FATES is something players want to do?

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Originally Posted by Claviusnex

Just make it part of the open world and let folks do what they would do in any other area. That is solo gather or group up as needed for hunts and FATES.

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This is probably the best solution, really.

It's hard to even get into Diadem because its like impossible to queue for. People might actually do stuff if they could just get in.

I think they should fix it. Way I see it, I paid for that content with my purchase of Heavensward and my ongoing sub. Not fixing it and just closing it is sort of a slap to the customer's face.

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Originally Posted by Claviusnex

Just make it part of the open world and let folks do what they would do in any other area. That is solo gather or group up as needed for hunts and FATES.

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Best solution to be honest, now that it's basically dead no reason for it to be an instance.

There's a ton of ways to fix the content. Suggesting to close it is the utmost laziest on his part. I've never heard a producer talk like this. "Eh, maybe we just kill it" vs. adding a couple of small things that could actually make it better.

You could let people join in progress, like with other duties. You could even put it in the duty finder and remove that whole fuel voucher thing. You should let people just enter at 70 to mess around and farm whatever they want and not make them unsync for fates.

How much other crap is this going to be cut because 'meh'

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Originally Posted by Belisaire

How much other crap is this going to be cut because 'meh'

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He was kind of "Meh" with most of his answers during the Q&As too, I felt. >x>

Why would they leave it open if it literally serves no purpose to anyone and the player base collectively dislikes it?

The Diadem is totally irrelevant. It was supposed to be another way to get great gear for yourself, along with a few other rewards, but players flipped out when it was revealed the PINK gear dropped had an RNG element, and could be BiS. It was unfun FATE grinding for the uncomfortably small chance for BiS.

But, since SE removed that element after player backlash, the Diadem became pointless outside of the exclusive minions and mount. The queues are so comically long I've never been able to enter the place, and now we have those same minioms and mount locked behind an impossible to pass wall that very few can do because no one else has a reason to go.

So, yeah, it's a waste of space and server strain. Can it and put the Hawk and Pegasus drops elsewhere. Put Dev time into new content and learn from the mistakes.

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Originally Posted by Ametrine

Why would they leave it open if it literally serves no purpose to anyone and the player base collectively dislikes it?

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Because moving the titles, minions, mount, and achievements to other content would be a pain and if they did close it then eventually other people would complain about not being able to go anymore.

They could always just make it open to everyone by adding a colonized area or an airship that would act a a central hub with an inn and then taking ideas from hunts, beast tribes, grand companies et cetera and rebalance it as an area that gatherers can quickly level to lv 60, and appeal to explorers that would offer chests with rare materials and Orchestreon scrolls as rewards for player curiosity. Oh, and the hub would be labeled as the exploration guild that would allow players to send out their grand company members on expeditions like you can do in the Final Fantasy Tactics series. Of course, Players will have a limit on their activity within the area per class.

But, they're totally most likely not in any position to request aid from SE due FF14's past failures, wary investors, and Japanese business and cultural reason's (?) that might be considered arrogant and disrespectful on Yoshi-P's part.

I do Diadem parties now and then. If they could move the entire set of of achievements and rewards to whatever, I'd be a tad upset, but accepting.
If the rewards were all gone, achievements as well, I'd lose a lot of participation from what little I already have.

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Originally Posted by MPNZ

They could always just make it open to everyone by adding a colonized area or an airship that would act a a central hub with an inn and then taking ideas from hunts, beast tribes, grand companies et cetera and rebalance it as an area that gatherers can quickly level to lv 60, and appeal to explorers that would offer chests with rare materials and Orchestreon scrolls as rewards for player curiosity. Oh, and the hub would be labeled as the exploration guild that would allow players to send out their grand company members on expeditions like you can do in the Final Fantasy Tactics series. Of course, Players will have a limit on their activity within the area per class.

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So sad when the playerbase comes up with better ideas than the garbage they put out sometimes.

I fo like MPNZ ideal if we keep the thread going they may use it

I thought The Diaden could be use for Job such as Beastmaster if it could come into exist you can tame pets you want out there