Level Reset

Hi there~!
I haven't visited the forums in an age, so just wanted to drop in and ask the community team a question~

My current character has been with me since 1.0 release - I was one of the folks that started ARR with everything leveled (except ACN since that was just introduced!). At first I thought this was great since I was able to just jump right in and explore as soon as the servers were live.
Over the years, I've come to find that I missed out on the new adventurer excitement, and I was tempted to start working on an alt... only there was something that stood in my way.

I'd have nothing.
None of my achievements, none of the mounts/minions I'd either earned or bought on the mogstation that weren't account wide (those mounts that are account-wide are very few and far between....), and none of the glamour items/hairstyles too that aren't cheap... those $15~20 sets add up... (I just love the Y'shtola hair!)

So it got me (and my fiance... and even my FC thinking... so it was a lot of thinking!)

Would there be a way to reset our classes to level 1, and reset our quest progression?
If we can't transfer things like mounts and glamour items to other characters on our account, I think that allowing us to reset our characters would be the next best step...kinda.
Even if it was made a paid service so that the likelihood of it being abused was decreased, I would honestly be all for it, and I know there's at least a few others out there that would appreciate it too (though I'm unsure how the community as a whole would feel; I can't speak for 'em).
[Small sidenote: Would love to keep inventory etc intact, but just wipe the slate clean on quest and level progression]

EDIT: Some have mentioned keeping quest reset and level reset separate from each other- I like this idea too! It would make it a bit more enticing for those that just want to xp, or those that just want storyline/sidequests.

I'm excited to see more ideas!


To the folks that would reply "But you can level an alt! You get 8 characters per server~!" I know, I know... But until those 8 characters per server get access to everything extra that I had bought, or even my shiny legacy tattoo I will feel like my character could never be my main. It'd always irk me, and I'm not willing to shell out over $100 to re-buy things that I believe should have been account-wide in the first place, but that's a topic for another time^^;;


Stay awesome everyone, and have an awesome day!

I've thought about this too, but a bit different. What if we could restart from level 1 and work our way up again keeping all progress and stuff. It would be like the disgaea or white knight chronicles rebirth/reincarnation system. You start over from level 1, but in doing so you get added bonus points you get to allocate to your base stats. That way, if you invested a lot of time into your character, you would see a difference between a lvl 70 100 hour character and a lvl 70 500 hour character. I mean, they already have the system in it "kinda". remember the old stat bonus allocation we had?

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Originally Posted by OMega_ARcane

I've thought about this too, but a bit different. What if we could restart from level 1 and work our way up again keeping all progress and stuff. It would be like the disgaea or white knight chronicles rebirth/reincarnation system. You start over from level 1, but in doing so you get added bonus points you get to allocate to your base stats. That way, if you invested a lot of time into your character, you would see a difference between a lvl 70 100 hour character and a lvl 70 500 hour character. I mean, they already have the system in it "kinda". remember the old stat bonus allocation we had?

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This would turn an optional feature into something that is required for every player that is doing endgame content. I think a reset function is not bad, but there should not be any perks to reseting your level.

Reseting level = the option to level again on your old character, YAY

Reseting level = the option to level again and gain more stats on your old character. NAY!!!

I'd like to see Reset Story separate from Reset level. If I could crack through the story again on a 70, soloing low level dungeons and all that, I think it would be a riot. No XP, no area locks, but you can go back to start of the story.

Maybe even keep your highest story quest unlocked, so you can proceed from that point. In any other FF game, I can restart any time I want, but in an MMO, its a much longer process to level and obtain items.

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Originally Posted by Laerune

This would turn an optional feature into something that is required for every player that is doing endgame content. I think a reset function is not bad, but there should not be any perks to reseting your level.

Reseting level = the option to level again on your old character, YAY

Reseting level = the option to level again and gain more stats on your old character. NAY!!!

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In WKC it didn't make it absolute to do reincarnations to get to do things. You could do pretty much anything given you were properly leveled and geared. Although It could be changed to better suit this world, it wasn't a requirement in that game. Doesn't have to be in this one either :). Then again, you will get the people who demand you have exact points in exact stats and that sort of stuff. I do respect your opinion though.

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Originally Posted by OMega_ARcane

I've thought about this too, but a bit different. What if we could restart from level 1 and work our way up again keeping all progress and stuff. It would be like the disgaea or white knight chronicles rebirth/reincarnation system. You start over from level 1, but in doing so you get added bonus points you get to allocate to your base stats. That way, if you invested a lot of time into your character, you would see a difference between a lvl 70 100 hour character and a lvl 70 500 hour character. I mean, they already have the system in it "kinda". remember the old stat bonus allocation we had?

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Why not add item world and character world from Disgaea too for some crazy stat tomfoolery, Resetting the levels would be a nice option, I enjoy levelling but hate the gear grind.

These are all really nice ideas! I'm not too hot on the reset for perks as I second what Laerune says - it'd become mandatory for folks to have to relevel then in order to be seen as competitive in the gaming community. Maybe an achievement or something? A hat? Everyone loves hats! (I think)

Having reset story + level separate would be nice too, that way it's not an all-or-nothing kinda deal.

I'm excited to hear more opinions! Thanks for your feedback everyone!

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Originally Posted by Draziel

Why not add item world and character world from Disgaea too for some crazy stat tomfoolery, Resetting the levels would be a nice option, I enjoy levelling but hate the gear grind.

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My idea for this is not to completely wipe the character clean (slaying inventory etc), but literally just wiping the slate clean when it comes to levels + quest progression. I hate the gear grind, too :( haha but I'm a sucker for xp!

First off, it should have either a long lockout after using it or it should be tied to the mogstation. Other than that, it doesn't hurt anyone to implement it. If the game has a jump option, it should have a go-back-to-level 1 potion, either in the job you want or all of them. You'd lose your armory bonus if you do it with all of them though. The system would flag the quests as "incomplete", remove the cs entry in the The Unending Journey and items in the Calamity Salvager. I don't know how hard is to code it to make it so the items you got from these quests get removed. It should also read the retainer's inventory to remove them.

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Originally Posted by Lilseph

First off, it should have either a long lockout after using it or it should be tied to the mogstation.

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This is what I was thinking - I wouldn't mind it being a paid service so that the chances of it being abused in any way are small. I think if it was an ingame only service (no mogstation), then it has the potential to cause some damage, which is something that I'd like to avoid!

They have trouble with clearing flags for progressing thru MSQ. This is part of the reason why we cannot currently re do MSQ instance duties.

Hmm a Reset Level (and Reset Story) would be cool for people who wish to do that.

Though you still wouldn't get a true new adventurer feel unless you reset or self-abstain from certain other things. Without using a new alt that means you'll have all your resources to acquire good gear early, something many new adventurers do not have (except for when the game hands it to you). You wouldn't have, as a low level, to worry about whether your chocobo will be useful (like when a new person gets one, puts dps skills, then realizes what they really need is the healer skills but don't have the ability/seals to buy the chocobo skill reset yet and get stuck with their choice).

So unless you're willing to reset your chocobo's skills to imitate that of a new player AND not use any gear (other than for glamour) AND purposefully put away all your gil so that you can start from fresh and act like you're brand new (and spend all your tomes/seals/other currencies), you will not truly get that new adventurer feel.

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Originally Posted by Squintina

So unless you're willing to reset your chocobo's skills to imitate that of a new player AND not use any gear (other than for glamour) AND purposefully put away all your gil so that you can start from fresh and act like you're brand new (and spend all your tomes/seals/other currencies), you will not truly get that new adventurer feel.

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I know in certain areas I'd still have a bit of an advantage - I'd likely end up losing the company chocobo (no license!) so I could see that getting reset too.... But until they make things like legacy tattoo and mogstation purchases account-wide or transferable, this is likely the closest thing that I will get :(

As for gear... Dungeon gear til 70! haha D: Setting my gil on a retainer wouldn't be a bad idea- I hardly spend it as it is D:

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Originally Posted by DrWho2010

They have trouble with clearing flags for progressing thru MSQ. This is part of the reason why we cannot currently re do MSQ instance duties.

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This difficulty I can see if people are wanting to re-do msq instances, but maintain their progress throughout the rest of the msq that follows, but I'm hoping that completely wiping the slate clean and starting from the first quest will be a little different. I can't say this with certainty though; I work in medical, not IT :p

its not somethign forgin to final fantasy and i think it could be used. Dissidia final fantasy allowed the player to lower there own level from 100 to 1.

as for story the only way i can see that one is to buy a item or have a out of the way (to avoid people from accidentally doing this) to reset the flags on the system, if that is possible. i imagen some flags in the system are hard coded into some items. and they are easier to mark done then mark undone.

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Originally Posted by Nix

None of my achievements, none of the mounts/minions I'd either earned or bought on the mogstation that weren't account wide (those mounts that are account-wide are very few and far between....), and none of the glamour items/hairstyles too that aren't cheap... those $15~20 sets add up... (I just love the Y'shtola hair!)

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Or, an maybe this’s just me talkin’ crazy, that kinda shite should all be account wide instead.

The idea is nice and all, but there was a similar question asked a few live letters ago and Yoshi p's response was "make a new character"

So my guess is that would be the response we'd get for this.

I would love to replay the story, and watch the cutscenes along with it :)

I wouldn't mind a story reset set by Job. Then you could level your alt Jobs naturally along the path you used on your main Job, and still have the progress on your main Job. If you made it so it had to be reset intentionally instead of automatically applying to all Jobs under a given level, then you could play through the story again on one alt Job but then have useful dungeons available for other Jobs if you wanted to utilize some of the current methods of leveling alt Jobs instead.

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Originally Posted by Nix

To the folks that would reply "But you can level an alt! You get 8 characters per server~!" I know, I know... But until those 8 characters per server get access to everything extra that I had bought, or even myshiny legacy tattoo I will feel like my character could never be my main. It'd always irk me, and I'm not willing to shell out over $100 to re-buy things that I believe should have been account-wide in the first place, but that's a topic for another time^^;;


Stay awesome everyone, and have an awesome day!

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I'm going to preface this with :
Your idea has merit and I have nothing against it should SE decide to make it available for people to do. It impacts me literally zero amount, and logically I have no arguments against this being put into place.


that being said (lord, how many mean things start with this) , your only real argument against using what's in place is your own brains hangups against having stuff you've "earned" on your old character, on this new character. If you really want to experience the adventure again, running the story from 1 to 70 on a brand new character should fulfill 99% of your criteria. That stuff is still there, will always be there on your old character and should you really want to continue the new characters "story" once you've gotten your alt to 70 or whatever goal you set, you can fantasia your old character and continue the narrative in your mind.


to sum up: the experience is available to you within current game options and overcoming your own hangup will probably come before SE implements a solution for you.

I thought about this but it was a different idea all together.

You know how we go from gladiator with gladiator skills then Paladin with paladin skills but retain are level so it would be something like this.

Gladiator > Paladin > Whatever job SE chooses after the class but you return to level 1 and have all new skill sets when putting on job change crystal.

Now if you put back on Paladin crystal you have all old skills and keep your level but the new job would be fresh start anyways that was my idea long time ago.

It was going off the promotion system they had on shining force where you reach max level promote and keep some stats but return to lvl 1

It would also help with cluttered skills if we had a whole new skill set.

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Originally Posted by Nix

Hi there~!
I haven't visited the forums in an age, so just wanted to drop in and ask the community team a question~

My current character has been with me since 1.0 release - I was one of the folks that started ARR with everything leveled (except ACN since that was just introduced!). At first I thought this was great since I was able to just jump right in and explore as soon as the servers were live.
Over the years, I've come to find that I missed out on the new adventurer excitement, and I was tempted to start working on an alt... only there was something that stood in..

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"You cannot go home again." This statement is sadly true. There is no way to unlearn what you have learned. (sorry Yoda) Have you mayhaps (hehe) tried to level the arcanist and its jobs? The scholar has a great storyline as does red mage. I have no problem with the idea but I think you might find more satisfaction in the untold stories you still have not seen.

That honestly just sounds silly and unneeded in an MMORPG setting. That's what alts are for.

Also, Mogstation items SHOULD be account wide but legacy tattoos? No. They belong to your character for living through 1.0.

I wouldn't use it.

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Originally Posted by Krotoan

to sum up: the experience is available to you within current game options and overcoming your own hangup will probably come before SE implements a solution for you.

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To be fair, if the cash shop purchases were account-wide, I totally would have started from scratch already and said screw the achievement stuff since I hardly use it anyway...

I could re-buy the cash shop stuff, but shouldn't have to~ I'd much rather pay a way smaller fee to reset my level (or rather not pay anything at all... but that's a topic for another thread T____T haha)

I'm not expecting anything really to come of this - chances are I will have to say screw it and just bite the bullet... But there's no harm in asking, right? The only truly stupid question is one that remains unasked~

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Originally Posted by AxlStream

That honestly just sounds silly and unneeded in an MMORPG setting. That's what alts are for.

Also, Mogstation items SHOULD be account wide but legacy tattoos? No. They belong to your character for living through 1.0.

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If you don't like it, you don't have to use it~ But I know quite a few people that would :3
I feel you on the legacy tattoo thing - it is pretty exclusive and should remain as such, despite that little part of me that's like "but gosh, that'd be kinda neat...."

I wish the mogstation stuff was account wide! haha, I would have just started an alt already if this was the case!

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Originally Posted by Minako_Nightsong

longquote is long! <3

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I've leveled most everything, which is the problem :( Would love to start over, even if it meant a gil wipe! I would start an alt, but I've got some shiny things from the mog station that are bound to a single character (gifts from my fiance etc). My fun in games doesn't really come from the gear grinding, it's more about the levelling up; something mindless to do while taking my mind away from the stresses of life... But when you start running out of levels, and you're fresh out of story... It just gets a bit dull.

I might not be able to go 'home' per-se, but I could do with a fresh dose of nostalgia!

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Originally Posted by Nix

I'm not expecting anything really to come of this - chances are I will have to say screw it and just bite the bullet... But there's no harm in asking, right? The only truly stupid question is one that remains unasked~

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Of course there is no harm =] and I hope they make this an option in the future.

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Originally Posted by MatthiasS

I'd like to see Reset Story separate from Reset level. If I could crack through the story again on a 70, soloing low level dungeons and all that, I think it would be a riot. No XP, no area locks, but you can go back to start of the story.

Maybe even keep your highest story quest unlocked, so you can proceed from that point. In any other FF game, I can restart any time I want, but in an MMO, its a much longer process to level and obtain items.

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I've wanted a story reset (or new game+) where you keep your character as is but the MSQ resets for ages.

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Originally Posted by Jandor

I've wanted a story reset (or new game+) where you keep your character as is but the MSQ resets for ages.

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Same here, would have used to level alt jobs.

I've always wanted to be able to level reset certain jobs I had SO MUCH fun leveling. I have alts as well, but its not the same as playing your own character IMHO.

I'd also love the ability to de-level and lock jobs I regret ever unlocking....