About Voice Acting

Yeah this isn't about cut scene voice acting. I'm talking about voice for certain actions and spell casting. I'm not suggesting anything exaggerated, but something more better than what we currently have. For example, a word or two in some ancient magic casting language. Something simple but not dull.

that would be super annoying in my opinion, but to each their own.


edit:if it was only on 15 min cooldown ability's or something like that it wouldn't be so bad but i prob wouldnt vote for it.

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Originally Posted by syntaxlies

that would be super annoying in my opinion, but to each their own.

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True about each their own. I didn't have a problem with it in Aion and Lineage II.

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Originally Posted by Andrien

True about each their own. I didn't have a problem with it in Aion and Lineage II.

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also if they could be toggled off or the vo9lume adjusted would be nice.

If implement right I think it'll work well. We're used to hearing grunt sounds from attacking/taking damage. If spell cast can be done right it wouldn't be a problem.

I imagine a different version of some low key kyaah, etc. at the end of the spell. Chanting might work if it's 1 or 2 sec and only does it every other spell or it might get too annoying for me.

I think all grunts & skill sounds should be replaced with Wilhelm Screams.

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Originally Posted by Belial

I think all grunts & skill sounds should be replaced with Wilhelm Screams.

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Idea of the millennium!

i want mnk to say something like "so, you think your kung fu is pretty good huh. i want to fight your brother, him against me, LETS KUNG FU!!!" every time he does the spinny kick move

More Fus Ro Dahs when casting wind spells...





























































from my mouth.

If they were to mutter to themselves (ie just move their mouths) while casting, I'd be very for this. Very oldschool FF.

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Originally Posted by Andrien

Yeah this isn't about cut scene voice acting. I'm talking about voice for certain actions and spell casting. I'm not suggesting anything exaggerated, but something more better than what we currently have. For example, a word or two in some ancient magic casting language. Something simple but not dull.

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Fus ro dah

pk thunder

kal vas flam

expelliarmus

Cup.

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Originally Posted by syntaxlies

that would be super annoying in my opinion, but to each their own.

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It maybe annoying, but in my opinion it won't be as annoying as hearing a carpentery or armourcraft synthesis which is more frequent.

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Originally Posted by Supergroovegear

It maybe annoying, but in my opinion it won't be as annoying as hearing a carpentery or armourcraft synthesis which is more frequent.

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I dunno man....

MAGIC MAGIC MAGIC MAGIC MAGIC!!!

mamase mamasa mamakusa!

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Originally Posted by auritribe

I dunno man....

MAGIC MAGIC MAGIC MAGIC MAGIC!!!

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Oh man, that was absurdly funny. In the raped-my-childhood funny sense.

FFXIV 2.0 Battle Sounds

Some kind of voice clips like "Take this!" or "Stay down!" or something when you crit or at rare intervals would be really cool.

Miqote moaning when they cast Level 9 Eroticism!

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Originally Posted by Andrien

Yeah this isn't about cut scene voice acting. I'm talking about voice for certain actions and spell casting. I'm not suggesting anything exaggerated, but something more better than what we currently have. For example, a word or two in some ancient magic casting language. Something simple but not dull.

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That would be wonderful, although Aion comes to mind and the implementation there was horrid. Done correctly, and slower, it could be amazing.

No. No no no no nononononononononononononononononooooo.

If you played Aion as a caster for more than 5 minutes, you would know to never request this. Though, honestly, I'd be okay with it, if there was an option to turn it off, otherwise /ac "Puncture Ear Drums" <me>.

I think it is safe to assume that the noise from crafting is more annoying. In respect to that I hope they make a toggle off option for that as well.

On topic, I really think voice can be done well for actions and casting because I'm used to it in Aion and in Lineage II. I think it'll work best on more difficult higher level to do combos. A toggle off/on would be wise for both

Maybe like in FFX where Lulu would occasionally say a corny joke while casting a spell?

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Originally Posted by Ashthra

No. No no no no nononononononononononononononononooooo.

If you played Aion as a caster for more than 5 minutes, you would know to never request this.

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Amen! but if they find a way to not make it super annoying after 20 minutes why not, some lowvoiced arcane chanting during the spellcasting would be nice i guess

just not like the first half of this vid: http://youtu.be/NMTxqriuEOc puhleeeeez

A low mumbling voice wouldn't be too bad, but obviously have a option to turn off character voices. No screams please.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oN5Uc9BwpG8 I think this video somes up why we should not have voice in battle >.>

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Originally Posted by KiniRyris

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oN5Uc9BwpG8 I think this video somes up why we should not have voice in battle >.>

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that is why in the OP I clearly said it should not be exaggerated. One word is enough for an ultimate combo, not a whole sentence. Plus that video is fake lol

Snow: Much appreciated!!!!
Snow: Much appreciated!!!!
Snow: Much appreciated!!!!
Snow: Much appreciated!!!!
*my bf walks into the living room*
Snow: Much appreciated!!!!
Snow: Much appreciated!!!!
*I feel mortified by the game & hope to die*
Snow: Much appreciated!!!!
Snow: Much appreciated!!!!
Snow: Much appreciated!!!!
*I turn off the volume completely because there are no sfx volume controls*

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Originally Posted by syntaxlies

i want mnk to say something like "so, you think your kung fu is pretty good huh. i want to fight your brother, him against me, LETS KUNG FU!!!" every time he does the spinny kick move

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As long as the lip sync is out I approve this post.

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Originally Posted by Andrien

Yeah this isn't about cut scene voice acting. I'm talking about voice for certain actions and spell casting. I'm not suggesting anything exaggerated, but something more better than what we currently have. For example, a word or two in some ancient magic casting language. Something simple but not dull.

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What an awesome idea!
I support the idea of having small voice acting for abilities and/or spells. :D
Sweet!

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Originally Posted by Bowen

Maybe like in FFX where Lulu would occasionally say a corny joke while casting a spell?

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Always liked that stuff from X and X-2.

I semi support the OP, but it really does come down to how it's implemented in multiple ways.

1.) You need great voice actors.
2.) It shouldn't announce every action/spell
3.) It needs to toggle specifically

Reasoning:

1.) Even nondescript grunts, yells, and chuckles can be off putting or abrasive. So far I think they've done a decent job in this regard. The voices also seem to be non-region specific and cut from scratch (not Wilhelm screams) so it'd be in their best interest to continue in that trend. Slightly off topic but if I'm not mistaken 2.0 will have each supported language represented in at least the CS's voice acting. If they are bad voice actors people will just choose to turn them off.

2.) Some suggestions so far include the random wisecracks you could come across with Lulu in FFX. It didn't happen every time but when it did it wasn't too jarring and did add some flavor to the sound during battle sequences. A bad example, as has already been represented, would be like Snow's constant statements of gratitude every time you would heal him. Every once in a while is fine, especially if you have certain code parameters combined with a random modifier for example... A character has critically low HP, when healed into a safer zone of HP a statement of gratitude may be triggered if the randomizer deems it so. The same could be done with spells as well. If you could write the code to express the context of the situation to show they need to be said and then throw a random element in there to help decide whether or not the words will be said then I could see myself not needing to turn them off. I do appreciate the little "haha" my character makes when they evade an attack, especially on Pugilist. The audio cue combined with the visual 3D text not only enhances the aesthetic but also adds to the play mechanics as well. Unfortunately when I'm in a party, it's difficult to tell who is "haha"ing, which brings me to ...

3.) You should have the ability to toggle specifically what you want filtered, just like text in the chat log. To all those that say you should have the option to turn voices off; you already have that option: Configuration>Audio>Decrease the Voices slider. The problem with that is it lowers the volume of all voices (cutscenes not included). As I've stated earlier, I believe what they already have is pretty decent and I wouldn't want to get rid of that just because more annoying phrases were implemented. If they give me the ability to specifically filter the phrases or context in which certain phrases are uttered I'm totally fine with that but don't force me to completely drown it all out when some of it is actually quite nice to hear.

Here's an audible example of what happens when you have a whole group of people announcing every non basic action they're doing. Considering the faster based combat in XIV, it wouldn't be much different. If anything it might be worse considering eight person parties and the eventual massive scale PvE content they might bring to us in the future.

Tales of Symphonia

I've personally adapted to just shutting out the sound effects from video games but I don't expect others to do so nor do I agree that its necessity, even on my own accord, should be accounted for from a sound design perspective. If you're going to implement something that you think the audience will just end up "drowning out" then don't implement it in the first place. On the contrary, if you think it will definitely enhance the gameplay and aesthetics then by all means move forward, but even when you do move forward; do so with caution and leave the option to experience it in the hands of the individual player. If anything this game needs more toggle options. They've done a great job with things like Popups, help text, and the /display options but they could certainly do more in the toggle department when it comes to the visible real estate on the screen.

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Originally Posted by Shyd

Always liked that stuff from X and X-2.

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Sometimes I wonder what the writers were thinking when they did the dialog for the spells.
Edit: Yeah, for battle quotes, they should be kinda randomized. But, we should also be able to optimize the frequency in our config too.

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Originally Posted by auritribe

Fus ro dah

pk thunder

kal vas flam

expelliarmus

Cup.

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FOR THE EMPEROR.

WARGHHHHH.

Who shouts louder? Spess Muhreen or Ork?

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Originally Posted by Bowen

Sometimes I wonder what the writers were thinking when they did the dialog for the spells.
Edit: Yeah, for battle quotes, they should be kinda randomized. But, we should also be able to optimize the frequency in our config too.

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Yea some of the lines where weird, but to me it kind of kept the fighting pace intense and action packed. I was always entertained fighting and farming for hours with the characters showing their own corny, catchy, and/or flashy characteristics.