A strange convatation to a FC invite

I have no idea what to think right now..

"So I was trying to invite people to my FC when I got the following conversation":

FC leader> "I was wondering if you 2 would like to exp faster, see if you 2 join my fc, you get a 15% exp bonus for being in it. Also comes with a large house to hang out in"
The person being recruited> Isn't that cheating?
FC leader> how is it cheating? that is how the game was made
The person being recruited> that seems like an unfair advantage to me
FC leader> why do you say that? a lot of people are in fcs using it, and ofc nice house to hang out at hehe
FC leader> it is a pretty standard thing
The person being recruited> no thank you, i do not want to get banned for cheating
FC leader > ???????? *shows link to loadstone explaining FCs*
FC leader > its not cheating

*ends there, no reply back*

How can anyone think a FC buff is cheating? or joining a FC?

better not tell him about my alamighan earrings, friendship circlet, and brand new ring

Probably wearing a tin foil hat even as we speak.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by savageink

better not tell him about my alamighan earrings, friendship circlet, and brand new ring

---

Lol True that.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by savageink

better not tell him about my alamighan earrings, friendship circlet, and brand new ring

---

Well, the high level in most of my jobs now make those purely glamour items but the point was indeed made.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Bongaboi

Well, the high level in most of my jobs now make those purely glamour items but the point was indeed made.

---

The experience boost works if you're synced down to a relevant level. Before I hit all 70 I kept them on-hand and put them on if leveling roulette put me in low level dungeons

stop cheating /shrug

I would think it was the poor phrasing on your leader's part. Maybe if he'd explained it was a buff you guys maintained constantly? The wording could confuse a true newbie to MMO's.

All I could think of was Illegal Danish's gnome that would go around asking "HEY! Wanna join may guild!?" as I read this.

More likely they had no interest in joining your FC so decided to troll your FC leader a bit.

I will be honest I have been bored and done similiar stuff to people who send fc requests multiple times to me.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Alestorm

I would think it was the poor phrasing on your leader's part. Maybe if he'd explained it was a buff you guys maintained constantly? The wording could confuse a true newbie to MMO's.

---

I agree - it sounds to me like the issue is in the phrasing: "if you 2 join my fc, you get a 15% exp bonus for being in it". Potential interpreted emphasis on "my" FC like it's something unusual that they have set up and are giving directly to their members, not a standard game buff that can be applied to any FC. An explanation like "the game lets you apply special buffs to your members, and we're using one that boosts EXP" would have made it a lot clearer.

I suppose I should stop using those EXP boost scrolls from my adventurer squadron and food bonuses too...

Well actually if I did that I would have more stuff to lvl right now... >.>

This thread is confusing. So is exp bonus cheating or what lol

If a candidate starts odd questioning it is better move on, you are inviting troubles in your FC.

If were myself the recruiter, will had just moved to next candidate without even reply to such odd questions.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Johaandr

This thread is confusing. So is exp bonus cheating or what lol

---

It’s not cheating. Free companies can add special bonuses that apply to all their members. (“Company actions” I think they’re called.) I haven’t read the full explanation, as I don’t organise it myself, but our FC has the actions “increased EXP from battle” and “reduced teleport cost” active at all times, and they appear as status icons on the top of the screen like normal buffs and debuffs.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Iscah

I agree - it sounds to me like the issue is in the phrasing: "if you 2 join my fc, you get a 15% exp bonus for being in it". Potential interpreted emphasis on "my" FC like it's something unusual that they have set up and are giving directly to their members, not a standard game buff that can be applied to any FC. An explanation like "the game lets you apply special buffs to your members, and we're using one that boosts EXP" would have made it a lot clearer.

---

I agree too, if they never played an MMO before they might not even know what a buff even means or stands for yet, if that's the case then it could be seen as cheating. Then again too it could be an individual ideal of what they view as cheating. I mean for all I know they could see it as a 15% increase to XP which means leveling faster which in turn means over powering quests. Like as in "cheating" themselves from the leveling and growing experience.

I don’t think the terminology is the problem - I’m also new to MMOs and easily worked out what “buff” means from context. I think the problem is in the presentation - “my FC gets a special bonus that other people don’t” - which sounds suspicious. I’d think it very strange if I was the person trying to be recruited (and hadn’t been in a FC before to know how it worked), and may well have had the same conversation due to the way it was described.

Explain “it’s a bonus spell we can apply to our FC” and it makes sense. Explain (paraphrasing from your conversation) “it’s how the game was made, and lots of people are using it” and it sounds like a dubious exploit. Linking them to a whole page on FCs and expecting them to find the information about something you’ve not-actually-described doesn’t sound like a fair way to explain it either.

I'd have to say the explanations you gave left room for wrongful interpretation. Also, if someone linked me an entire page on something I wasn't especially interrested in after an inadequate explanation, I wouldn't bother opening it up to read it. Too much trouble to sift through it to find whatever part I could only assume that person wanted me to educate myself on, so I'd assume they were of a "git gud" mentality and ignore it. If they kept on about it I might blacklist. If you want someone to understand something, you have to be the one to explain it to them, and you need to do so clearly in a way that not only do they grasp what you're trying to say, but also are interested in testing it out for themselves. Wording your reply defensively (But everyone's doing it! It's how the game was designed...)and then linking what you should be explaining isn't going to do that.