More Character Customization Options ((In-game))

I am not complaining one bit about the options we currently have! But, let's be honest here, we LOVE personalization as MMORPG players. This is our fantasy life after all, the us we want to be in our virtual worlds. I do understand the art style for FF14 tries to stick to a main theme, but not everyone is "THAT" body type, everyone is different and beautiful in there own way.
-How about we have more sliders on body parts with a bigger range from skinny to voluptuous.
-And more facial selections, we have some main differences atm, but they are still all pretty similar.
-I would also LOVE to see WAY longer hair then what we currently have!! Personally I'm a fan of hair that goes down to the knees or past in games, I feel it gives an elegant/goddess look. Kind of the way Minfilia looks in her crystal form.

What does everyone else think should be added! <3

P.S. - I apologize in advance if this is not the kind of feedback that is accepted in this forum, I read in the forum welcoming page that this is a place to post feedback on the website and lodestone etc. However I did not find a forum tab that states it is specifically for in-game/designer feedback, so maybe that would be beneficial to implement. Although I'm quite sure there is a FLOOD of creative ideas just ready to bust through the gates!! ^_^<3
P.S.S - In no way is my above post/feedback complaining we don't have enough, or that one look is better than another, I simply think that alot of players would be more than excited to have more features in this department, we ALL love customization don't we?!? ^_^<3

((I do have many other ideas but we are only support to submit one topic per forum, so if this doesn't blow up in my face I'd probably really enjoy sharing my ideas with everyone to see if anymore players agree!))

I agree with this idea for body sliders and long hair becouse i REALLY tired of playing skinny girl/cat/lala. Just look at body sliders in Blade and Soul, Black Desert, SWtoR and you will see what i mean.
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During Paris Games Week, Yoshi-P said that there is no plans to add new Character Customization options because A)They're afraid that it could be too realistic and no longer feel like a Final Fantasy and B) it could increase server communication traffic (a.k.a. server limitation).
He then goes on to say that they are looking into adding "more character parts" (which no one knows what that means) and would like feedback.

That "it could become too realistic" is, frankly, one of the most disingenuous things I've ever heard from him. I love the man don't get me wrong but...come on.

I just want more type of tails and ears for my miqote. Like, fox, lynx, tiger, etc. I don't think it would be hard to implement. Or just give us more fluffy ears, and striped, spotted tails.

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Originally Posted by Dualgunner

That "it could become too realistic" is, frankly, one of the most disingenuous things I've ever heard from him. I love the man don't get me wrong but...come on.

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That's probably code for "we don't want people playing as exact copies of characters from other games or celebrities and get a lawsuit for what our players do with them." >w>

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Originally Posted by Shahi

I just want more type of tails and ears for my miqote. Like, fox, lynx, tiger, etc. I don't think it would be hard to implement. Or just give us more fluffy ears, and striped, spotted tails.

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This yes please

iirc yoshi said something about long hair cuts to be really expensive to make

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Originally Posted by Mimilu

They're afraid that it could be too realistic and no longer feel like a Final Fantasy

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From my point of view, the developers are just too lazy or afraid to add more detailed(or realistic/sexy) body sliders not becouse it would no longer "feel like FF" but becouse they knew that some ppl with inferiority complex will go crying/flaming and blame the company(SE) for sexism and viewing women as a commodity. No need to be genius to come to this conclusion.

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Originally Posted by Mirch

iirc yoshi said something about long hair cuts to be really expensive to make

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There is a saying: If you want earn sometning, you need to spend something. Nothing is free and if devs dont understand or dont want to understand it that's their fatal error.

I want tattoo options, like shoulder, back, stomach, etc. tats. I want ombre hair options. I want nail options, why don't miqo'te have claws??

But mostly, I just want tattoos...

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Originally Posted by Modnica

There is a saying: If you want earn sometning, you need to spend something. Nothing is free and if devs dont understand or dont want to understand it that's their fatal error.

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A "fatal error" of 1.0 was that everything was composed of way too many polygons. 2.0 changed that by using textures instead of polygons on items and scenery.

Hair cannot be made simply with textures because it has to fall and move certain ways. They've optimized it but as we can see ingame, there's still a limit to it as longer hair (past the shoulders) tend to stick out on certain equipment. Longer hair would need more polygons for it to move and fall differently otherwise it will go straight through fluffy skirts and dresses. It's expensive not only for the developer but also the player because more polygons = larger strain on graphics generation.

TBH! I was actually going to reply back to this thread on this topic Neuflune. I myself, along with many others who probably don't know or fully understand what all goes into designing a game, implementing new textures and features, the price of programming etc. etc. HOWEVER, I do know for a fact that if they were to implement more customization options that were just slightly more advance in body/hair/tattoos and more, I would be extremely greatful to pay extra for this service, even as a premium customization option to help pay for what we demand. Does anyone else agree or disagree with this?? ^_^<3 I'm sure there's much more that goes into than just these obstacles, however I believe that this community is a great place, and we are all on either the same page if not in the same book of fantasy life! <3

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Originally Posted by RisaKins

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They could add thicker limbs and torso especially for female characters. Except for Roe and Highlander, females are mostly thin and small atm. A slider for hips/butt would be good as well. Voluptous characters do exist in the FF games, such as Lulu.

More shades for hair, give hair styles as rewards for seasonal events, have crossovers with other FF games and implement their character/style to FFXIV (for example, Brave Exvius lets its players add Yshtola and co. to their party)

Not sure about changes to the face. Maybe implement a new face/ear/chin structure with each expansion at least?

I would be so happy to pay more than extra for a "Premium Customization" feature, and I don't think I'm the only one who would break on this. I can honestly hear the "Oh they want more money so they shouldn't charge us for customization options" but if that's what it took, I'd totally pay it.

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Originally Posted by Neuflune

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I completely agree with all of these!!! <3 let us be us! :D

Imagine a giant Lala the size of Roes.

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Originally Posted by Mimilu

That's probably code for "we don't want people playing as exact copies of characters from other games or celebrities and get a lawsuit for what our players do with them." >w>

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And yet the only lawsuit surrounding Black Desert Online, despite its player replications of other game's characters and various celebrities, has been against the maker of BDO's largest botting program, Pyx.
Imagine that... the game that actually could suffer from said issues instead has only encountered distributor suits against one of its players, not the game or company itself in any way, for creating and distributing bot scripts and programs.

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Originally Posted by Beet_Farmer

Imagine a giant Lala the size of Roes.

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LOL! Well I mean there will still be limitations to keep races in check to the proper sizes they were ment to be, just......MORE options to it <3

Well, since someone said lalafell it's my obligation to shows up.
If there are something I would like see in lalacustomization is mix races, for example: lala with elezen.
but just imaginating the work that will give to fit clothes, hats, shoes, legs etc in every mix, I imagine the dev team screaming internally.

Already spoke about this on another thread, but I'd prefer more character creation options then whatever they're planning with the glamour system. The character creation could really do with updating... you'd think with all the vast quantities of money they make from Fantasia purchases alone they'd want to incentivize further character creation. Glamours can only do so much, since it's actual character models that are wearing the glamours after all. When you've gotten to the point where you can accurately say which face options people have picked just by examining them, out of the whole 3-6 options per category, that's when you know the current options are far too limited.

I just personally feel slightly teased for the past few years in Eorzea. It's as if they handed us a pretty decent character creation that seemed to have so much promise for future content and yet, we've just been at a stand still with no improvements to it. It's like "Here you guys, a character creation options so you can be unique in Eorzea, BUT you still have to look similar to everyone else and fit "The Look" we want you to have so you can't fulfill your desires completely" lol which let's be honest, as humans we are never satisfied, so that's not what I'm saying. I just know and have a strong feeling in my heart that the character creation has SO much potential and is ready for an awesome update!! <3 <3

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Originally Posted by RisaKins

I just personally feel slightly teased for the past few years in Eorzea. It's as if they handed us a pretty decent character creation that seemed to have so much promise for future content and yet, we've just been at a stand still with no improvements to it. It's like "Here you guys, a character creation options so you can be unique in Eorzea, BUT you still have to look similar to everyone else and fit "The Look" we want you to have so you can't fulfill your desires completely" lol which let's be honest, as humans we are never satisfied, so that's not what I'm saying. I just know and have a strong feeling in my heart that the character creation has SO much potential and is ready for an awesome update!! <3 <3

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XIV as we know it was built on the bones of 1.0, a system that was created with a different goal than the one we've been playing since 2.0. That's why there are a lot of seemingly arbitrary restrictions and limitations. XIV's character creation works well enough for its indented purpose - creating a distinct player avatar- and will likely not be changed or updated in a significant way this late into the game's lifetime. It probably frustrates the devs that they can't give players what we want in they way we want it most -happy customers stick around longer and pay more after all- but the code limitations are very real. We're basically still paying for 1.0's poor design vision plus the mad scramble to salvage it and will be for years to come, regardless of how successful the game is. It's unfortunate since I'd love to have more face, height, and build options for my character too. But I have zero expectations that I'll ever get to customize every detail I want in this game.

Perhaps.....I know there are SO many complications that go into giving us exactly what we want, but I have faith that Yoshi and the company will find a way!! They personally have never let me down before!! I've loved every moment of my time spent in Eorzea <3 and I thank them so much everyday for making such a glorious masterpiece <3

In general saying after successful 4 years of ongoing game, I think Character Creator/Customization really needs an upgrade! at least some new faces (all races), new tails (au ra/miqo'te), ears (miqo'te), horns (au ra). So far the only customization added are the occasional hairstyles, wish they make an official hairstyles entry (not a composition) since it will add a vast amount of ideas that can be added with every patch.

I would love to see muscle tones for all the the female races and some sexy bodies too wouldn't kill you, breast comes in a variety of shapes not just a blob you can make smaller or bigger. You can make a sexy adult male body ex. the male Au Ra body shape but when it comes to females the word bland and childlike comes to mind. And why do female Roegadyn run like there's something between their legs

I'd also like to add in someone elses thread that was just posted like just now lol, but I think doing a split hair option would be nice. Such as being able to customize the front and back of the head separately. Perhaps you like or dislike bangs but like the ponytail/pigtail look. And I also believe we should be able to customize horns/ears without modifying other parts of the face/head/body scales.

I also don’t understand the process of adding different character features and I’m sure it’s difficult, but after 4 years it would be nice if they could finally focus on character creation in one of the upcoming patches. We have new characters who are beginning to have more features than us and look better, but we’re still stuck with the base creation. Kinda feels sad being the WoL and all when the npcs look better than you lol. Don’t get me wrong, I think the character creation looks great so far but it just feels like it’s lacking.... I can make a good looking character but it’s never what I want since the options are so limited

Agreed, but on the plus side, atleast it looks like they added a few new hairstyles in the patch, however I feel like adding more hairstyles shouldn't be in only the large scaled updates. >//<;;

So after doing some thinking, I did a little more research, and I found this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9nsFbsb7t0k

Now in the video he says that square does stray away from longer hairstyles because of bad clippings ((With movement I take it)) but as far as length and basic movements go, if someone who can mod can do this, then I don't see why they can't. <3 I would totally accept slightly amateur movement of hair as long as it looked pretty decent and gave me the satisfaction of length! <3 Cmon Yoshi Senpai!! Please grant me this one wish!! T//T;;