THF

Dear S.E

Hi, this is Sil on the Saronia server.

I am a huge fan of the FF Series, a long time FFXI Player, a FFXIV Player since beta and I have two questions. :D

Are we getting THF?

When are we getting THF?

If anyone knows anything at all about this I'd love to know.

I am sure we will get it, its one of the more highly asked for jobs. As for when there has been no info about it yet. The first line of jobs are coming in a few weeks so it may be awhile but never know

Agreed we need Thief! And this Video will explain why http://www.dorkly.com/video/30243/do...-steals-wallet .

I need Ninja and or Samurai ASAP. If I can't have them I'll settle for thief though. Hopefully all it's combos won't have to be behind mobs.

As long as it's still Crowd Control like FFXI. THF is the most fun I've ever had in an MMO. Love CC, Love THF.

Don't Really need THF per-say. Needs a dual wield job for sure. I loved THF while
in XI. I don't have a problem with them being in XIV. Just one thing needs to be left out.

Don't Bring Treasure Hunter in to XIV. Seven Years of speculation as to how something worked wasn't
really needed. I don't know how to word this. just don't do it. Really take the item part out of THF.
Keep the Debuff and hate management parts of THF. those were the great parts of THF.

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Originally Posted by Searious

I need Ninja and or Samurai ASAP. If I can't have them I'll settle for thief though. Hopefully all it's combos won't have to be behind mobs.

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You have to work with in the Armory system. Something is going to have to be a class. I mite break this out to another
thread. I would believe to make the whole thing work something is going to have to be a class. But what to make a Class
and what to be a job..

Well taking into consideration of a few comments and responses, we will most likely see THF>NIN (or Scout>NIN) in 1-3 updates after the release of 2.0 (maybe longer depending on the number of glitches and major issues that need fixed, along with people needing new endgame content after 2.0s release)

The idea was to bring 1 to 2 new classes before 2.0 (which may or may not change.) and more after 2.0.

Yoshida mentioned more mage classes 1st, but recently asked which classes people would want 1st.

Ranged Mage DD/debuffer
Beast Tamer/Summoner Buffer DD
Scout/Ninja DD

People mainly voted for pet, then ranged mage DD/debuffer, and lastly Dual Wield.

So I would assume a similar level of popularity will be across the other forums, leading Yoshida to work on THF/NIN last (I wanted THF/NIN as well)

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Originally Posted by Claire_Pendragon

People mainly voted for pet, then ranged mage DD/debuffer, and lastly Dual Wield.

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Since there has not been a real poll on the issue we could only hope it's included on the up coming poll.
We needs more dual pokeys up in here.

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Originally Posted by Haibel

Since there has not been a real poll on the issue we could only hope it's included on the up coming poll.
We needs more dual pokeys up in here.

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True, it wasn't a poll, but just people stating opinions.

People generally wanted pets, but some of them only said pets, because there was no pet class, and they wouldnt play it.

And out of the 3 options, we need another class capable of healing a group on its own, more than all 3 of these.
CNJ won't be enough on it's own.
Much less another Ranged DD, another DD that uses a pet, and then another DD DWing.
I do agree the game has plenty of melee DD, but I will still vote for the combo I would want the most, and play. (THF over the other 2)

why not a pet class who heal and dd ? :D

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Originally Posted by Silvanesti

Are we getting THF?

When are we getting THF?

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The correct questions are "Why didn't we have thief on release? Why hasn't thief been released yet?"

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Originally Posted by yukikaze_yanagi

why not a pet class who heal and dd ? :D

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I think every class should be able to DD and then 1 other role.
But with what Yoshida is doing, it seems we are going the route of , 1 role per class (where MRD may or may not be the only exception.)

I personally am a fan of hybrids, but I doubt SMN will get that level of options.

Sorry guys, theif would be awesome and all but we really need another mage class.

5-2 ratio is bad and getting it 6-2 is even worse.

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Originally Posted by DeadRiser

Sorry guys, theif would be awesome and all but we really need another mage class.

5-2 ratio is bad and getting it 6-2 is even worse.

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I'm really digging a THF class. but A summoner/evoker or a blue mage would be nice to have rather than another mele based class.

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Originally Posted by buritoslicer

I'm really digging a THF class. but A summoner/evoker or a blue mage would be nice to have rather than another mele based class.

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Yeah we were talkingn about this last night in the Linkshell. I would probably play a theif, but majority (as seen in that other thread) is gonna vote magic. We need a DD that can fill in the gaps, like focus on the light/dark spells again. Or have a summoner/debuff class. something that attacks with their hands from far away!

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Originally Posted by Claire_Pendragon

I think every class should be able to DD and then 1 other role.
But with what Yoshida is doing, it seems we are going the route of , 1 role per class (where MRD may or may not be the only exception.)

I personally am a fan of hybrids, but I doubt SMN will get that level of options.

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The only issue with this is they can't make really good hybrid classes.

mm?
which part of the THF OP like?
I thought we already have some elements in game that is THF-like (vs ff11), such as blindside~=SA. Used to have something like TA but that's before 1.20. so TA, treasure hunter and steal is missing. But, nm pops every 3-5 mins...moogle and ifrit reward is from chest...

and I thought everyone is a SAM (vs ff11) in here already... tp gain skill is low lv and combo requires 0 tp for later ws...

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Originally Posted by SnickleWhiskers

The correct questions are "Why didn't we have thief on release? Why hasn't thief been released yet?"

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You woud have thought Thief would be the one using daggers instead of Gladiator.

Hey, I recognize you! I've seen you running around on Saronia.

And yes, Thief plz.

On an opinionated note. No, I don't want to see Thief OR Ninja in any capacity in XIV.

On a logical note based on the development of the game: we need at least one or two more mage classes, a ranged, and one or two pet classes.

Suggestions:

Arcanist/Geomancer
Mystic/Time Mage
Sage/Summoner
Flayer/Beast Master
Musketeer/Gambler

Above all, I'd love to see a non-melee Blue Mage.

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Originally Posted by Deli

mm?
which part of the THF OP like?
I thought we already have some elements in game that is THF-like (vs ff11), such as blindside~=SA. Used to have something like TA but that's before 1.20. so TA, treasure hunter and steal is missing. But, nm pops every 3-5 mins...moogle and ifrit reward is from chest...

and I thought everyone is a SAM (vs ff11) in here already... tp gain skill is low lv and combo requires 0 tp for later ws...

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There's nothing like THF in the game atm. THF was CC/puller. That was a different style of gameplay with static camps and not the roaming type, but CC is still missing. I, for one, would love to see CC next.

I tried to google CC... I get closed capturing, Creative Commons, and Comedy Central (<3).
We do need some Comedy Central here. People are way too serious here...

XD I know you are talking about crowd control from your previous post. But,
this is the first time I heard thf is for crowd control tho.
maybe a mage that specialized debuff, poison, slow, sleep will fit better.

this reminds me our thm in LS used to run into moogles and blizzara right after king's 2hr thing...it works pretty well for like 30 secs.

THF along with RDM were the 2 jobs I enjoyed the most when I played FFXI. I used to do a lot of stuff solo like camping NMs, farming ect & with those 2 jobs I always had fun.

Like anything its personal preference, each to his own.

There was an interview (I think from the time where Yoshi-P was doing a press tour after 2.0 announcement) where Yoshi specifically said that they were thinking of making a Thief class that had Ninja as the job. Someone help me out with a link if you got it. This sounds like an awesome idea to me, and I would love for them to do it. As for when? Well its unfortunately like others are saying. Yoshi has said a few times that they want to add what is "needed" first in terms of classes. So yes that means more mages or pet classes first, and thats why they havent come out with (and wont come out with it any time soon) Muskateer. Even though there is already a guild for it.

Thanks for the info Amsai! Very cool :D

We wants link :p

Again though, why should/would they only release one class/job at a time? Why not 2-3, so we get caster + pet class or caster + pet + scout?

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Originally Posted by Amsai

There was an interview (I think from the time where Yoshi-P was doing a press tour after 2.0 announcement) where Yoshi specifically said that they were thinking of making a Thief class that had Ninja as the job. Someone help me out with a link if you got it. This sounds like an awesome idea to me, and I would love for them to do it. As for when? Well its unfortunately like others are saying. Yoshi has said a few times that they want to add what is "needed" first in terms of classes. So yes that means more mages or pet classes first, and thats why they havent come out with (and wont come out with it any time soon) Muskateer. Even though there is already a guild for it.

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That sounds good to me. I hope they'd add a bunch of new lowbie armor for Thf like masks and stuff so I could look cool while leveling it.

I think the term crowd control is inaccurate for Thief. It was hate control. Thief could not manage multiple mobs on
it's own. Crowd Control was typically a Mage job mostly falling on Rdm, Brd or Sch.

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Originally Posted by Tibian

On an opinionated note. No, I don't want to see Thief OR Ninja in any capacity in XIV.

On a logical note based on the development of the game: we need at least one or two more mage classes, a ranged, and one or two pet classes.

Suggestions:

Arcanist/Geomancer
Mystic/Time Mage
Sage/Summoner
Flayer/Beast Master
Musketeer/Gambler

Above all, I'd love to see a non-melee Blue Mage.

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This is what I want to see for mages:
Class | Job
Evoker (Pet class, DD/????) -> Summoner (Pure DD)
Arcanist (Terrain AoE Mage, DD/Debuff) -> Geomancer (Pure Debuff)
???? (Time/Space Mage, DD/Buff) -> Time Mage (Pure Buff)

* What I meant by 'Pure' was that that was what the job specialized in.

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Originally Posted by Bowen

This is what I want to see for mages:
Class | Job
Evoker (Pet class, DD/????) -> Summoner (Pure DD)
Arcanist (Terrain AoE Mage, DD/Debuff) -> Geomancer (Pure Debuff)
???? (Time/Space Mage, DD/Buff) -> Time Mage (Pure Buff)

* What I meant by 'Pure' was that that was what the job specialized in.

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Yoshida already said it was Beast Tamer/Summoner class/job combo, which was a DD buffer.

I want utsusemi back

/hides

why can't the male miqo'te look like this? Thief for the win!

http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:A...UEQX025PqfKyw3
http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:A...F4MRjdm32_9mpQ

Little bit more hair for a half tiger/lion dude would be a good thing.

He already spoke about it in one his interviews last year.

Saying he would like to add a scout class, but another casting class and pet class would take priority.

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Originally Posted by Claire_Pendragon

Yoshida already said it was Beast Tamer/Summoner class/job combo, which was a DD buffer.

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Wait. what when?