Can someone enlighten me with this?
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Can someone enlighten me with this?
Though this isn't tested, this is what I've found from just a numbers point of view when it comes to gearing PGL:
Head: Crown of course, but if you're rich and feeling daring then Silver Tricorne with two INT IV Materia on it should be better
Body: Rainmaker's with Crit Attack+ to (possibly) make your Howling Fist Blindside/BfB combo that much stronger OR the Mercenary's Aketon that drops from the Zaharak king, what you're going for with that is the STR. You could also get the Gridanian GC Shirt if you're Gridanian.
Hands: Fingerless Raptorskin Gloves of Slaying with attack+ materia on them.
Belt: Penance is what I use, though that other belt with the orange with Enmity- or HP+ might be a good investment if you're going for endurance.
Legs: Felt Trouser with the STR/VIT Materia.
Feet: Cobalt-Plated Caligae with whatever Materia.
Rings: Strength
Weapon: Cobalt Claws if you don't have Ifrit, Ifrit otherwise.
protip: INT it's the main choise for pgl, while str it's more easy to stack
How did you guys came out with Inteligence beeing a better choice over strength?
I wanna see some Parsing.
It's not, STR is still better. But INT does still contribute to our damage, so being able to put it in head slot makes Tricorne hands down the best head piece if you're lucky with melding.
You should do better your math. int increase your auto-attack significally, on ws not sure.
blindside well, it raise crit damage based on int. you can see where this go
STR gives you more damage per auto attack than INT. Unless you have testing and numbers to back it up?
Others can do it for me, i don't use parsers.
Anyhow, after 1.20 patch notes, i did some test to myself: with full str equip my punches did 75-85ish each. After like 10 mobs (all the same family, with same level) i switched to int. With int they raised to 90-100. No very need for a parser to see i got an increment in damage.
If you looking for better numbers, someone familiar with parser can give it to you, or you can try it from yourself.
It seems that Ill have to parse it myself.
Yukikaze what was your STR and INT on the first case and what was on the second?
I prefer stacking INT over STR myself as the AA bonus I find to be comparable. INT, however, provides a bonus to Blindside.
Also might I suggest anyone testing parses explicitly state which mob they fought, their level, whether they used a stance, and how much damage they did on the same mob without the stance if they tested with stance.
It may turn out that INT effects overall damage to a greater extent with elemental fists on, but STR more so for off-stance. It would account for the conflict of some players saying STR is better while others saying INT is.
No! INT shouldn't affect damage more if stances are up, if yes then it's not working properly.
I thought that you have tested it and made it clear that Mage stats do no affect stances because stances are not magical attacks.
I am always parsing my damage against 50 level Amaljaa, I will not use stances because they are resistant to fire but I'll say it again, INT shouldn't affect damage more than STR.
I am still waiting for your INT VS STR Setups so that I can duplicate and test myself.
I still don't believe that INT is better than STR unless I see numbers.
my str gears had been melded :|| for what i recall, sipahi turbant, felt trousers materied str/vit +7, 4 rings STR+ 5, fingerless raptorkin gloves with hell's fist 4, cobalt-plated caligae, rainmaker with critical power + 36.
Replace with raptorskin pot helm with int+16, sipahi gloves,felt trousers with materia int/mnd+7, 4 rings int+5.
Tell me whats the STR and INT on a STR setup and your STR and INT on a n INT setup.
I don't know if STR or INT is the better choice... but guys, balance it! The only thing that i see is +INT = + Second Wind (i'll arrive at 930 HP healed).. not sure, in this days i'll try more configuration and the effects :D
I also think that that's the way it should be (and is).
Blindside + Blood For Blood (Lancer Skill).
Edit: Unless you meant as in there was an actual combo for using BFB... which there isn't..
Edit: Blood For Blood is a Lancer skill <------
Blood for Blood is a Lancer skill.
Not sure the variable off hand on Blindside, but with Second Wind, without any Int gear I get a high about 890. With my Int gear I get from 920-960.
EDIT:Okay, so doing a few tests, I found Int to increase dmg of AA by about 15-20 damage. Granted this was with +54 Int... which is a bit disappointing. Str vs Int, same amount changed, Int was higher, but only by like 10 damage max, however I will agree they could equal out. The BIG thing however, came with Blindside. The +54 Int increased Blindside Howling Fist consistently by about 120 damage. Granted this was only a small scale test on Lv.52 enemies, but it's still enough, for me at least, to want to stack Int over Str, but the only place where you have a choice of the two is on legs... so it's not a huge deal.
This was also during a GC leve, on the exact same enemies, exact same level.
So like, someone tested this already.
here is their conclusion.
STR is better than INT for both normal attacks and enhanced fists.
and
Here.
Have a nice day.
It seems the best option is the just combine stats. Get Str from pants, Int from crown and maybe atk from gloves. People seem to have found that stats seem to do a lot less after 280. Even so, I'd say do your own tests, use what you think works best for you and have fun. Every week some has a test that "100% proves I'm right so listen to me :p" Plus for all we know this is going to change after the update. Just remember this is a game, so don't kill yourself over an extra 1,000 damage on a parser over a 10 minute fight. I'm done dealing with all this "omg I get 5 extra damage a hit from adding a triple bind Str" and I'll be enjoying myself ^^