i feel like deleting character should take more than just entering character name

in most other mmo i played, deleting a character involves typing the character name (like ff14 does now) but also either entering password, a seprate PIN, or email address.

its crazy how in ff14 all it takes is character name thats clearly on display on the screen already especially since deleting one character here is the equivalent to pretty much deleting 10 or more characters in other MMO

There is already a seperate PIN as an option, the security token.
If you registered it, then whoever want to delete your character have to know and use it before even come to the character selection screen.

Exactly whoever wants to delete your character would have to know your password before deleting them just to login. At if you have the security token, they would also have to have your phone.

Other MMOs, especially F2P ones, give you maybe 2 total character slots and make you wait 24 hours+ to delete one. So if you took a break from it, decided to come back, delete old character, congrats, you can no longer create a new character for 24 hours.

Im just saying I LOVE how FFxiv handles character deletion and dont think it needs any more barriers for deletion.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Nora_of_Mira

Other MMOs, especially F2P ones, give you maybe 2 total character slots and make you wait 24 hours+ to delete one. So if you took a break from it, decided to come back, delete old character, congrats, you can no longer create a new character for 24 hours.

---

This is a paid MMO, its not F2P. having more than two character slots and being able to delete your character and make a new one without waiting for an entire day is not a benefit, it is baseline expectation and id almost go as far to say a requirement.

That being said, i dont have any issue with the deletion system either. If you had the unfortunate circumstance to have left your character logged on while you go to the bathroom and your asshole little brother came in and saw it fit to delete your character (or some such scenario) then i am sorry, but otherwise yah, anyone else would need to know your password to get on your account anyway

I have no issue with the deletion system. If this thread is created from a security standpoint, then you should take issue with the login password system.

Adding a password requirement for character deletion wouldn't be a bad idea.

Interesting side note - the two main subscription only MMOs have incredibly simple character deletion requirements (the name here, in the other you just have to type DELETE in a box). It is kind of odd when you think about it (not the lack of a timer, but the lack of any other layer of intentionality when it comes to deleting a character).

I imagine the current system of only protecting your characters from outside deletion through the account login, to SE, is a deterrent to sharing your account with someone. Particularly for dubious reasons to share the account if trust is an issue.

The prevention system like typing your characters name is there not to prevent deletion, but to prevent ACCIDENTAL deletion. It takes more time than "Do you want to delete X? Yes/No", hence you're likely to read that it is deletion function that you popped up.

If you want a character deleted, you want it deleted. There is no reason why there should be any other part to it. Any security layer added on top is technically unnecessary, because if another person have the ability to delete your character, either they would have the ability to do it with that extra layer (hacking the account and its data directly from servers) or it's entirely your fault (like letting someone else play your characters). Aka...the password for logging in is the anti-deletion password. No one besides you at any point should have access to your account, so if you share it, your problem.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Seig345

I imagine the current system of only protecting your characters from outside deletion through the account login, to SE, is a deterrent to sharing your account with someone. Particularly for dubious reasons to share the account if trust is an issue.

---

I think that's a non-issue. I believe FFXIV doesn't allow for account sharing outside a minor child who's parent pays for the account.

We're talking a bannable offense here if you let someone else play on your account.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Kaethra

I think that's a non-issue. I believe FFXIV doesn't allow for account sharing outside a minor child who's parent pays for the account.

We're talking a bannable offense here if you let someone else play on your account.

---

That's what I was referring to; there's technically no need for a secondary password check after login because we are prohibited from sharing our accounts. As someone else already suggested; if you happen to have a mischievous co-inhabitant, it would be best to lock the computer (assuming password protected windows/ios login) or logging out entirely if you need to step away.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Seig345

That's what I was referring to; there's technically no need for a secondary password check after login because we are prohibited from sharing our accounts. As someone else already suggested; if you happen to have a mischievous co-inhabitant, it would be best to lock the computer (assuming password protected windows/ios login) or logging out entirely if you need to step away.

---

That's definitely a best practice on the side of the consumer...

But it wouldn't hurt for SE to implement a password layer. I doubt it would be a high priority addition, and the number of players it would impact isn't likely to be all that high, but there's no compelling reason to say SE shouldn't consider doing it.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Berethos

That's definitely a best practice on the side of the consumer...

But it wouldn't hurt for SE to implement a password layer. I doubt it would be a high priority addition, and the number of players it would impact isn't likely to be all that high, but there's no compelling reason to say SE shouldn't consider doing it.

---

There is a password layer. Account login. There's also a secondary layer in the token. I mean, if you step away and they need a password to delete the character, but not use it, they can just throw away everything you have. would amount to close to the same thing.

The character delete function is fine the way it is. As many have stated in this thread, you have to be signed in to delete a character. It's against TOS to share your account info with anyone and if you were hacked (kinda hard if you have a token) you can probably get it back by calling customer support.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Berethos

That's definitely a best practice on the side of the consumer...

But it wouldn't hurt for SE to implement a password layer. I doubt it would be a high priority addition, and the number of players it would impact isn't likely to be all that high, but there's no compelling reason to say SE shouldn't consider doing it.

---

It would hurt some of the players. I have enough passwords to remember, needing another just cause some people are too lazy to protect their own hard work through a simple mean would be a pain. And if you say that it could be the same as the login one, then there's a technical reason why it COULD hurt Square Enix AND players. They use different physical servers for login and characters. By making a password requirement that is the same for login and character deletion, you basically say that you want your password to be shared between their servers. And I'd say that the login servers have much stricter security having more sensitive data than the normal datacenters. They would need to up their data centers security unnecessarily, and the risk of password leaking out is still higher.

So yeah, stick to doing the simple thing. If someone can get to your computer while you are away, don't leave without making sure they can't use it to delete the character. Or deal with the possible consequences, of course.

Typing the name is enough, you cannot delete a character by mistake.

Just don't delete characters when you're under an high fever or the times you cannot call left from right or up from down, or when everything around you is fuzzy and blurry, and you're safe from errors.

By entering your character name you're ensuring you are deleting the correct character. If you didn't want to delete it what are you doing?

If you want to look at another mmo, yes some require a pin entry or some such. Others like WoW just require you to type "delete". They did this since the beginning and only in the last couple years enabled an undelete function for characters allowing restoration outside GM intervention. Really that's all you need if you make a mistake, though if you're typing out the name of the character you want deleted how you could get the wrong one by mistake is truly special.