about the cross class roles, I have a lev 25 THM / lev 16 CNJ. Under my Actions / Traits there is NO additional listed so I can't access any cross class roles. Do you have to be a certain levels in order to access this ? I have ARR, Heavensward & Stormblood installed.
Newbie Here confused................
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11-15-2017, 08:02 PMVerethylNewbie Here confused................
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11-15-2017, 08:17 PMMistakeNotCross class skills disappeared for all combat classes when Stormblood was released. They were replaced by "Role skills" which are the same for all classes/jobs with a particular role (tank/healer/dps.)Quote:
Originally Posted by Verethyl
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11-15-2017, 09:05 PMHasrat
Games such as these get patched and updated and changed often. Always need to make sure the information you're reading is up to date.
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11-16-2017, 01:48 AMVerethyl
Cross class skills disappeared for all combat classes when Stormblood was released. They were replaced by "Role skills" which are the same for all classes/jobs with a particular role (tank/healer/dps.)
I know that, that's why I wrote roles and not skills. I am trying to find out if I have to be a certain level before the " additional " shows up on my actions / traits screen. -
11-16-2017, 02:48 AMAramina
Are you saying there is no Role tab? That should be there at level 1. I just created a character to verify this.
It should be from top to bottom: Actions, Role, Traits. I can post a screenshot if you like. -
11-16-2017, 09:54 AMVineasThe game was updated recently with SB release. The cross class actions no longer exist. Instead, now you get role actions that are unlocked every 4 lvl starting from lvl 8.Quote:
Originally Posted by Verethyl
You can assign 5 actions (if i'm not mistaken) to be used, so it's plenty of freedom on what to choose.
In fact, if you have the old cross class skills they will be somehow assigned under the action class skills tab, but they are unusable. So, you need to clear those first before you can reassign the new system. -
11-16-2017, 10:04 AMMStowastiqVahlshdeh
Welcome to the game Verethyl!
Roles are the type of job or class you are in like Caster or Tank.
From the Final Fantasy Job Guide:
The amount of "additional" slots that are available increases as you level up and also differ when you are on a class vs job.Quote:
Role actions are abilities common to classes and jobs with the same role.
Jobs can select and use up to five role actions, while classes can select and use up to ten.
For instance, my level 70 Summoner [job] has 5/5 additional role action slots available, but my level 70 Arcanist [class] is given 10/10 additional role slots.
While Arcanist is the starting class I will be in until I do my class quests to get the Soul Crystal [Soul of the Summoner] required to equip and play the Summoner job, they are given a different amount of role slots and the class ability is given more.
As you level up, the amount of slots available increases to a certain cap. Which role abilities you choose to fill up your available slots depends on your particular play style but the community always has its recommended best choices that apply to the type of duty you are doing.
For example: Hardcore raiders have different needs than a casual raider and so when you get advice or read an online guide, see if the person doing the guide is advising the use of the role abilities for the play style that you like, or just try them out and see which fits your personal play style.
I would advise though, finding experienced players who play the job that you do, in similar duties and ask them which they use because when in a party, the other players may expect and depend on you to have a certain role ability up.
For example: A Ninja may be asked to help boost TP of fellow party members by having the role ability "Goad" available and on cool down. So a Ninja would make sure that Goad is selected among his/her role abilities before start of battle. ["Cool down" meaning you are using the ability as soon as it is available from the amount of time it becomes inactive upon use.]
Healers use Protect and Esuna and Lucid Dreaming but when you have only 5 slots to use, you have to sacrifice some role abilities during combat in order to have access to another. Which one you choose can sometimes make the difference between a party surviving or wiping, depending on your role.
I will stress again that it varies with play style and type of duty as well as party needs vs solo needs. Knowing what obstacles you will face also helps so that you can tell whether or not that role ability will be needed and thus, can free up that slot for a needed role ability.
Role abilities cannot be switched during active combat, so before you start the fight, be sure you have selected the optimal role abilities for that battle.
Also some info from official site: FFXIV Job Guide
Job guide explains each role ability and function as well as the level you will acquire it. Scroll down to "Role Actions".
Good luck! -
11-16-2017, 06:28 PMMistakeNotYou will obtain your first Role action at level 8 - so if you are higher level than that they should definitely show up.Quote:
Originally Posted by Verethyl
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11-17-2017, 06:49 AMVerethylOH I most definitely have Actions, Role, Traits, and on my DOH / DOL I have Actions, Role, Traits, Additional!Quote:
Originally Posted by Aramina
What I'm trying to say that there is NO Additional tab showing up when I'm on my main class, take my lev 31 THM/ lev 16 CNJ/ lev 2 ARC, I ONLY have access to my THM spells, no cure or protect from CNJ or physik from ARC. I don't know how else to try to explain what I'm trying to say. -
11-17-2017, 08:08 AMMistakeNotAs THM you are not supposed to have access to cure or protect from CNJ or physik from ACN.Quote:
Originally Posted by Verethyl
The cross-class skills were removed from the combat classes with the release of Stormblood, so you no longer get any skills from the other classes. This is what we have all been trying to tell you.
The cross-class skills were replaced by the Role actions.
There should not be any "Additional" tab showing for you except on the DoH/DoL classes. -
11-17-2017, 10:17 AMHasrat
DoH/L still retain cross class skills; unavailable on DoW/M classes.
As a THM, you'll gain access you abilities such as Addle, Break, Drain, etc. -
11-17-2017, 01:55 PMVineasIt's true, the DoH and DoL still retain the Additional Tab because the share cross skills function is still working.Quote:
Originally Posted by Verethyl
They revamp the DoW/ DoM skills entirely so it no longer has additional tab. The Action and Trait tabs are class/job specific. The role tab may share common skills that one or two classes can use (for example protect for all healer jobs/classes). The way unlocking the Role skills are based on your current class level. So let's say you are playing lv 31 THM it will unlock 6 Role Skills while your lv 16 Conjurer only unlock 3 Role Skills.