I really think we need a "Collections" section, place where all of our mounts/minions/etc to go so that they can be used not only by our mains but those of us that want to use them on alts.
The mounts could be mailed to us like the Slephnir, Fat Moogle, and Bennu mounts are that are from the Mogstation, OR the collections can be assigned to the account itself.
I think this would benefit for those who might be feeling burned out on their mains but don't want farm for the mounts they already have, the Roleplayers who want to use certain mounts in their RP, or those who have mains they aren't really happy with their characters and want to remake them but not lose the mounts and minions they worked hard to get.
I know not everyone agrees, this is one thing I really think it could benefit everyone in the long run. It doesn't have to be included in the next patch, but it could be something that could be added later with the right planning from SE.
Thank you all for reading!
Developers! Please Read! (Mounts/Minions)
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10-31-2017, 02:04 AMMoonstarDevelopers! Please Read! (Mounts/Minions)
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10-31-2017, 01:45 PMMoonstar
Bump for developers attention or people to comment!
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10-31-2017, 01:54 PMRuri
I don't see an issue for the ones from Mog Station being all account bound and not char bound, but anything you get in game should be char specific imo.
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10-31-2017, 04:48 PMBillyKaplanThat is a decision you, the player, make. If you want the thing on another character, wait until you're up for it again. Chances are by then the thing can be unsynced and nerfed besides, making the experience much less tedious.Quote:
Originally Posted by Moonstar
The solution to that one is called 'Fantasia'.Quote:
or those who have mains they aren't really happy with their characters and want to remake them
This is an MMORPG. Most of the content is planned to e farmed for long durations, and people having alts is one thing that fuels back into this. If anything, a slightly more logical solution wouldn't be to make them account wide, but make them transferable. Like when you buy the single-chara item on the Mog Shop, it asks you which chara to send it to. You'd still be able to provide your lower alts with the thing, but your main would have to keep farming if you want it for more than one character. -
10-31-2017, 05:48 PMRinuko
So basicly like it works in WOW?
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10-31-2017, 05:51 PMMisteWhy though? I mean all the characters on one account belong to the same person. If they did the work for the mount already why can they not have it on their alts?Quote:
Originally Posted by Ruri
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10-31-2017, 06:01 PMFelisWhy should a character with the highest job at level 35 have Midgardsomr, that don't show up before lv50 as a minion and lv 60 as a mount? Just an example.Quote:
Originally Posted by Miste
At least story minions and story mounts should be keeping character specific. -
10-31-2017, 06:07 PMMisteWhy should they not have it if they have already done it on their main though?Quote:
Originally Posted by Felis
Also if it is simply story mounts that are the problem then they can just omit those from sharing and just share the rest then?
You should keep in mind that there are level boost potions and story skip potions on the mog station that basically just give you the mount even if you never touched the story by the way. An alt getting it kind of makes little difference at that point. -
10-31-2017, 06:09 PMSyncroniam
The thing is that there's really not any point in having more than 1 characters in FFXIV since you can do all jobs and story with the same one so this system is obsolete here, in WoW it's almost impossible to stick with 1 character because youl get burned out almost immediately
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10-31-2017, 06:13 PMMisteThis is simply not true. A lot of people still love having alts in this game. So you think it is pointless, but that doesn't automatically mean everyone else thinks the same way you do.Quote:
Originally Posted by Syncroniam
Also you are forgetting that gear is locked per week so if you wanted to actually play more than one job in current content when it is released and not be really low item level and no way to improve it then you would need an alt in order to actually make progress and get higher item level.
Like I main a healer...if I wanted to main a DPS and have some fun in savage on DPS too I need an alt because my item level on my main for DPS jobs will be continuously stuck at low item level for a long time since all my weekly locked gear goes towards my healer. -
10-31-2017, 07:19 PMDerio
Sounds more like an alt problem.
But for people who only play 1 character its not a problem at all. -
10-31-2017, 07:48 PMMistakeNotBecause that character is a different character that hasn't obtained the mount/minion yet.Quote:
Originally Posted by Miste
Might as well ask why they should have it - other than the obvious reasons of player greed and laziness. -
10-31-2017, 08:04 PMMisteUh...it's greedy to want an alt to have a mount you've already done the work to get?Quote:
Originally Posted by MistakeNot
Alright then...I mean I think it is pretty rude to call people greedy and lazy just because they want their alts to have the mounts they already did the work to earn on their main, but if you want to take it that seriously then okay, you do you. I mean you are acting as if having more mounts gives some kind of advantage even though they are simply aesthetic.
It is simply a QoL feature in my opinion. You already earned the mount on your main, it isn't like you got it by doing nothing, and then if you feel like having alts you can also have your favourite mounts to use that you already did the work to earn. Seems fine to me and I barely play alts. -
10-31-2017, 08:09 PMSolarra
I don't see any harm in having this as an option.
There was a thread not so long ago asking people if they farmed mounts on their alts and the conclusion seemed to be 'no', why redo old content simply to get a reward you already earned when you could be getting something new?
My feeling is this, I did the work on my main so I'd like to have the rewards on my alts. People who want to keep each alt separate should of course, have the option to do so. -
10-31-2017, 08:35 PMFelisThen why should a new character start at level 1 on all jobs, if the same player leveled up all the jobs on the main character? The same reason why story mount/minions should be keeping character specific.Quote:
Originally Posted by Miste
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10-31-2017, 08:41 PMBunnyChain
That thread title. "Attention developers! You should stop your work right now and read this realm shaking idea! Call Yoshida! What do you mean it's 2am and he's asleep?! This is of greatestest import!" :rolleyes:
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10-31-2017, 08:46 PMMisteThis isn't even a logical comparison. No one is asking for free job levels as that isn't simply aesthetic. That would give an advantage.Quote:
Originally Posted by Felis
Mounts are only aesthetic they do not give you any kind of advantage. I mean by your logic then we shouldn't even be able to share our personal houses with our alts because they didn't buy it? Sharing your personal house across your alts should have been in the game already to help with the limited housing issue. Some people might want a house on their alt but are stuck having to purchase another one since they cannot even share their main's house.
Also I already said to you that if story mounts are an issue they can omit those ones. -
10-31-2017, 09:05 PMworldofneil
I have more alts than I have fingers (over two accounts before someone gets technical), and I want them all kept separate. Just because my main character has something doesn't mean all my other characters should. In fact I've greatly enjoyed getting things again a second time on other character.
Admittedly things like the events are a pain in the neck as it's a lot of running round doing the same thing over and over (and with the Halloween event I just didn't even bother for most of them), but I still like them kept separate.
The whole point of starting with a new character is just that, it's a new character. It shouldn't have any ties to your main character, it has its own story and its own achievements. -
10-31-2017, 09:36 PMThirdChild_ZKIThere's a certain irony in hearing you say this.Quote:
Originally Posted by worldofneil
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10-31-2017, 10:56 PMBillyKaplanFor mounts, perhaps, but Minions actually have utility outside of aesthetic. They are Lord of Verminion, and certain minions are required in order to spawn certain S rank hunt marks.Quote:
Originally Posted by Miste
I wonder, though, where's the crowd who shows up and yells about things losing 'exclusivity'. Because I can only imagine I'm not the only one with a bunch of things on my main that my alts don't have while I have a lot of alts. If this gets implemented, boom, 7 more charas on my server have all of this, and still with their sprouts, to boot.
That said, ultimately I wouldn't mind if this got implemented. Lord knows I'm fond of the Yokai mounts but had absolutely no intention of getting them on anyone other than my main. If getting the minions on any one character contributed to all my characters getting the minions, thus ensuring at least the basic mount, the motivation to run this would be greater. It would also let me benefit from running the FATEs on my lower level alts without my main losing out on any awards. The Weapon farm will be a different matter, but then a question also arises - why not increase this to the Armoire? Mog Shop items already don't fit in there, IIRC, and anything else is glamour only. But this is getting ahead of things, I think.
Then there's the matter of the Seasonal Event stuff. Those tend to end up in the Mog Station so they have no motivation to make those 'account wide'. If there's a reason why they won't do it, it's this. -
10-31-2017, 11:32 PMRinukoCome on now, we all know he never sleeps.Quote:
Originally Posted by BunnyChain
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11-01-2017, 12:53 AMworldofneilSorry, but you've lost me? I can't remember ever wanting the same thing across my characters, they're separate characters and are I treat them as such.Quote:
Originally Posted by ThirdChild_ZKI
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11-01-2017, 04:09 AMMisteNo one said it cannot be optional.Quote:
Originally Posted by worldofneil
They can simply make it optional when you create the alt if you want it to share mounts from a character of your choosing and also if they add the system a one time thing for all existing alts if they want to share the mounts of another character.
So yeah there is a way to implement it so it is optional for people who want their character's separate.
I understand what you are trying to say, but it doesn't really matter for that.Quote:
Originally Posted by BillyKaplan
I mean what is the difference between me on my alt playing LoV or me on my alt helping to spawn an S Rank? I could just switch to my main and do either of those with my main's stuff anyway.
(Also just for the record LoV is a very weak argument to use against this. LoV was a flop. Barely anyone touches that and it is simply only a mini-game.)
Both characters are on the same account so you cannot be online on them at the same time which basically nullifies any advantage.
Seasonal stuff yeah I understand that and they likely want more money, but if they had to they could even make those omitted along with story and just do the rest. -
11-01-2017, 04:12 AMKasumiCascade
I agree, but I think it should be limited to Mog Station and limited-time rewards. Mounts like the Yokai ones or Ranked PVP and minions like the Yokai, Dragon Quest, or Wind-up Shantotto that won’t ever be available on alts for players who already put the work into earning them should be account-wide. That goes for other related items as well such as Garo gear/titles and the FFXI Iroha gearset. Mounts like the ponies/birbs/doggos and minions like the wind-up primals or npcs or dungeon drop minions are all still accessible in some capacity, so I’m on the fence about these particular ones. As an option, maybe, but I’d still like to earn them the old fashioned way on my alts if I’m able.