Do I have to waste Money? (Ps4)

So I haven't played FF XIV since Stormblood was announced, pre-order access was on the verge of being released. I was playing HW during that time and thats when my subscription ran out.

My friends just got the free trial so I started playing again, they are planning on buying the Complete edition so I was planning on getting SB. But from what I see there's no discount on the Ps Store for SB (which includes both expansions) and whenever I use the mog station to "buy" it just takes me to the Ps4 Store.

I'm not sure why the price is higher on PS4, but SB always includes HW on all platforms.

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Originally Posted by Nutz

I'm not sure why the price is higher on PS4, but SB always includes HW on all platforms.

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I just looked again, the $20 price was actually the starter edition. However, it still stands that there is no discount/reimbursement for owning HW when buying the SB upgrade, which included HW. I have edited OP so it doesnt cause confusion.

Its like that on all platforms not just PS4 (even preorders and EA) nothing for having HW as you had it when it was relevant. Throwing in HW for SB for new players is just to encourage new players to buy the latest expac, if you were new you'd probably be deterred from buying the latest expac if you were gated by the previous expacs and had to buy those too. Theres nothing more to it than that really tbh ^^

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Originally Posted by HiroKirito

Its like that on all platforms not just PS4 (even preorders and EA) nothing for having HW as you had it when it was relevant. Throwing in HW for SB for new players is just to encourage new players to buy the latest expac, if you were new you'd probably be deterred from buying the latest expac if you were gated by the previous expacs and had to buy those too. Theres nothing more to it than that really tbh ^^

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I understand that perfectly fine, its just that anyone who bought HW before just wasted $20 because there's no discount option on a mandatory bundle. The expansions where $20 each, and the bundle is $40, new players are just buying HW and SB and old players are buying SB for double the price.

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Originally Posted by BurningFox

I understand that perfectly fine, its just that anyone who bought HW before just wasted $20 because there's no discount option on a mandatory bundle. The expansions where $20 each, and the bundle is $40, new players are just buying HW and SB and old players are buying SB for double the price.

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That's a misconception. The price of SB at release is the same as the price of HW at release. You are not being cheated of the price. There is no need for a discount. It's not a mandatory bundle. In fact, it isn't a bundle at all. Rather, SE is giving HW for free to those who buy SB now.

SE made it so that there are 3 tiers of game content now for players.

1) Trial
2) Base game (ARR)
3) Expansion (All of them)

This is to make the game more accessible to players and new players won't have to spend a fortune buying all expansions in the future.

You didn't really "waste" money on HW, though, did you? You actually got to play it for however long you had it, while any of us that did not buy HW when you did, were not able to do so.

20 dollars for stormblood AND heavensward? sounds like a deal to me. Im pretty sure i paid more than that, twice, as I preordered both expansions. Youre likely getting heavensward for free because its not relevant anymore..sounds like they want new players to not be forced to pay full price for old content. I support them..

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Originally Posted by xJimmehx

20 dollars for stormblood AND heavensward? sounds like a deal to me. Im pretty sure i paid more than that, twice, as I preordered both expansions. Youre likely getting heavensward for free because its not relevant anymore..sounds like they want new players to not be forced to pay full price for old content. I support them..

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Its HW cost $20, and the SB cost $40, but that includes HW, so what I'm saying is do I really have to spend $40 when half of what I'm buying is something I already own?

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Originally Posted by Hasrat

You didn't really "waste" money on HW, though, did you? You actually got to play it for however long you had it, while any of us that did not buy HW when you did, were not able to do so.

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It wasn't a pre-order, anyone who wanted it could have bought it for $20, however, now that SB is out I have to pay $40 which half is HW. So I'm saying, did I just waste $20 cause theres no reimbursment for the SB+HW purchase thats mandatory to buying SB

You bought Heavensward before Stormblood came out. Did you play it? If you did, you didn't waste any money. Did you not play it? Then you wasted money, but that was your choice. Stormblood in itself costs 40 dollars right now, they'll just thrown a free HW copy with it, one that you may or may not need (none of us who had bought and played before SB needed it).

If you havent made the purchase yet, amazon has the game (both complete and SB only version) on sale for $39.99 and 24.99. Idk if gamestop still has the game on sale but you should find them to be same orice as Amazon’s listing

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Originally Posted by BurningFox

Its HW cost $20, and the SB cost $40, but that includes HW, so what I'm saying is do I really have to spend $40 when half of what I'm buying is something I already own?

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Yes, you do have to spend that - it is what SB costs.

I don't know if this thread is even relevant? This supposed to be Help Forum, which I don't get the point.

If you are fuming about the price, there's nothing really much that the community can do. Like many other games, it's very normal that the newest expansion is priced higher.

So, if you think that it doesn't worth to spend the next $40 for SB, I would simply suggest don't play, and wait until the next expansion to come out, then you can buy the SB for cheaper price, or pay for the next expansion and hopefully it will cover the SB content as well.

Pay the money or stop playing, those are your only choices. Trying to barter with SE will get you nowhere.