Exp Woes..

Ive only played 3 mmorpg's.. But I was wondering, has any other mmorpg made it so that you could distribute exp? Ive been leveling a SMN on an alt and its been extremely difficult to get into DF Roulette waiting 30+ mins... For instance, yesterday I completed all my dailies (hunts, beastment quest, etc) that dont require DF and my DF still hadnt popped by the time I was done.. But on that alt I have warrior max leveled.. Can SE make it so that I can que as a tank and distribute any gained exp to a cast job? z

P.S I want to applaud S.E for the changes to SMN.. Ive never mained SMN or played it much but I got it to 60 pre 4.0 and I have to say, it is MUCH easier to play.. Particularly the 4.1 changes.. Granted im only 65..

With SMN specifically, can't you just play SCH to cut your queue times down if you want to level through DF? It's exactly what you want as it shares the same experience pool.

I wish I had the link on hand, but someone on Reddit mathed out that Squadron Command Missions are actually pretty lucrative for XP right now.

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Originally Posted by Serilda

With SMN specifically, can't you just play SCH to cut your queue times down if you want to level through DF? It's exactly what you want as it shares the same experience pool.

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I really hate healing.. I tried that lol. But I plan on doing BLM next but since I'm having such problems getting into DF with smn it's really making me want to put off BLM.. I WILL say however, the raid DF roulette is less than 5mins on smn

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Originally Posted by ThirdChild_ZKI

I wish I had the link on hand, but someone on Reddit mathed out that Squadron Command Missions are actually pretty lucrative for XP right now.

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At level 65...? That would honestly surprise me.

If you are planning on leveling as fast as possible, then you need to enter the dungeons, but as you have experienced already, DPS need to wait 30-40 minutes before they can enter. My advice, gear up your Scholar and level up as a Scholar via the dungeons. You might not like healing, but its alot faster then waiting in a queue as a Summoner.

Ah probably not 60-70, no. But something's better than nothing.

I personally prefer the dungeon/roulettes route, though time can definitely be an issue.

Or I guess this is pretty obvious but just ask people in your FC if they have any alts they would like to level with you. If any of them are working on a tank or healer, things would go a lot faster! You could even try putting up a leveling party on party finder and spam a certain dungeon. Maybe people would bite, but I'm not sure.... Alternatively, although I know everyone is probably sick of hearing it, make a tank/healer friend and ask for help!

You are in a unique position in that smn and sch share exp ( I honestly wished all jobs did this). I would make sch up to date with gear and skills and do the final push as a healer. Some other tips to make the process quicker;

There's a FC action that gives you extra EXP from monsters. It's like 10-20% but I can't remember exactly
Food gives you a tiny boost
Daily raid roulette gives like 1/3rd of a level and Healer seems to be AiN more often than tank so it's a short wait.

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Originally Posted by Catsby

There's a FC action that gives you extra EXP from monsters. It's like 10-20% but I can't remember exactly

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Yep, Heat of Battle which gives extra exp as you stated. Depends which one the FC has active, but:

Heat of Battle 1: 5% (purchase with company points or crafted then charged in an aetherial wheel)
Heat of Battle 2: 10% (purchase with company points or crafted in a workshop then charged in an aetherial wheel)
Heat of Battle 3: 15% (only crafted in a workshop and then charged in an aetherial wheel)

the fastest way to level I still think falls in the realm of POTD. At least for pre 60.

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Originally Posted by worldofneil

Yep, Heat of Battle which gives extra exp as you stated. Depends which one the FC has active, but:

Heat of Battle 1: 5% (purchase with company points or crafted then charged in an aetherial wheel)
Heat of Battle 2: 10% (purchase with company points or crafted in a workshop then charged in an aetherial wheel)
Heat of Battle 3: 15% (only crafted in a workshop and then charged in an aetherial wheel)

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Thanks. I used Heat of Battle 2. I think there's a bug with it or I don't understand EXP scaling for level difference. In my 50-60 stretch I would often get a +23%. It might have been exp chain related but I dunno. Is there a guide or something that helps break down the bonus?

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Originally Posted by Catsby

Thanks. I used Heat of Battle 2. I think there's a bug with it or I don't understand EXP scaling for level difference. In my 50-60 stretch I would often get a +23%.

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Well 3% of that will be food, 10% the HoB2 buff. The other 10% I'm not sure about though as I can't think of anything else that gives exactly 10% (and still stacks with the company action).

I don't if it helps, but if you're doing content that syncs you down to the appropriate level, things like the "Brand-New Ring" and "Ala Mhigan Earrings" will work as before and give you extra exp per kill, even if your actual level would be above the limit if you weren't synced.

I appreciate all the leveling tips, everyone! Putting that aside, wouldnt it be beneficial though if we could allocate exp? If not, Why? Only thing i could imagine is that players wouldn't be good at their jobs that they allocate to.. It's just.. The thought of doing BLM after SMN fills me with dread.. I also want to tackle MCH because the flame thrower looks fun lol.

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Originally Posted by Yukiba

I appreciate all the leveling tips, everyone! Putting that aside, wouldnt it be beneficial though if we could allocate exp? If not, Why? Only thing i could imagine is that players wouldn't be good at their jobs that they allocate to.. It's just.. The thought of doing BLM after SMN fills me with dread.. I also want to tackle MCH because the flame thrower looks fun lol.

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I do not think this would be a good idea. If you queue as a job you should be rewarded for playing that job. The current system imo is fine and there are alternatives to level grinding then dungeons via pvp battlegrounds, fates and POTD along with possible quests you might have skipped.

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Originally Posted by Vladmiere

I do not think this would be a good idea. If you queue as a job you should be rewarded for playing that job. The current system imo is fine and there are alternatives to level grinding then dungeons via pvp battlegrounds, fates and POTD along with possible quests you might have skipped.

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Yeah I agree with the other ways of getting exp and I actively pursue those routes, also I'm not saying a person shouldn't get rewarded for running dungeons on the job they choose to play with. Just saying it would be nice if we could take advantage of quick ques as a tank and be able to put those exp points into other jobs if we want to. Maybe this is something that could be unlocked or stock piled when doing Roulettes that offer EXP as a maxed level job and then you can allot it to a job you have trouble getting in the que with. It was just an idea. :)

Yoshida commented on distributing exp to jobs that you aren't even playing. He doesn't like the idea, saying it defeats the point of job exp.

Just do fates while you wait on dungeon queues. You can even solo fate bosses as a dps if you bring a chocobo and potions. I got all jobs to lv70 no problem this way. There are also exp bonus fates, and forlorn maidens for an additional bonus that stacks with the other bonus.

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Originally Posted by Yukiba

For instance, yesterday I completed all my dailies (hunts, beastment quest, etc) that dont require DF and my DF still hadnt popped by the time I was done.

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If you've done absolutely all of your dailies and your queue still hasn't popped (which might be a data center or maybe time of day thing, but I've never had this happen even as dps,) then there is still the challenge log to do. Lots of stuff in there that will help you kill time and several of them reward decent chunks of xp as well.