Can we make crafting more USEFUL....?

Most of the crafters are COMPLETELY useless when it comes to the PVE content...! Ok maybe EXCEPT for the FIRST MONTH of release where you can craft some DECENT gear but other than that the ONLY crafter i EVER use now is CUL and ALC....

MAYBE... Just MAYBE on a RARE occasion maybe ill craft a GLAM or furniture (OH WAIT i dont even have a FREAKING HOUSE....)

Thnx Yoshi....

Kinda sad they didn't add any battle gear as well... we're basically just crafting crafter gear so that we have better gear to craft more crafter gear...it's kinda redundant. Sure we are preparing for 3 star but some of us won't even be interested in playing when that patch drops.

Wait, the purpose of omni-crafter isn't to just craft your own glamour/furniture/fancy items?

I agree.

Raid gear should be the best, but something like... ilvl 325...released on 4.1... woudn't hurt.

I would love to craft my own battle gear. Untradeable. Can't sell on market board. No overmelding. Can be specialist restricted. Same item level (and patch) as the gear from the 24 man raid, but crafted by myself.

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Originally Posted by _Enigma_

Most of the crafters are COMPLETELY useless when it comes to the PVE content...! Ok maybe EXCEPT for the FIRST MONTH of release where you can craft some DECENT gear but other than that the ONLY crafter i EVER use now is CUL and ALC....

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You can craft decent gear now and there will be harder recipes coming up. This is only the first phase of things. Generally, they release recipes in two parts: 1) mostly crafter/gather gear along with recipes books and such like and 2) the harder recipes. They're just letting the new crafting gear recipes filter down before they add more. Plus, well, crafting is the best way to make monies in the game and having monies is always nice. xD

So making hundreds of mil is useless? Lel.

Crafted gear should be comparable to dungeon and tome gear. Here is why: It fuels a need for crafters (provides diversity to a player's activities within the game, aside from nothing but combat, combat, combat!) and creates competition within the economy (competition means lower prices on the market board). We can't just make crafted gear the absolute best though. SE wants players running the content they create like dungeons, primals, etc. So what to do? Perhaps we allow crafted gear to have a reasonable stat level comparable to tome gear. Consider the following tier of quality from lowest to highest: crafted gear < tome gear < crafted gear with materia < with upgraded tome gear. Such a hierarchy allows players a few more options when it comes to end game equipment aside from, "Well, I hit level XX, time to grind dungeons until my face falls off."

I want to see a return of Poison Pots...

Also would be nice to see variants... like a confetti/flash bomb to reset Enmity, or a Fire Pot which leaves behind a burning pit... or a gravity grenade which AoE drags monsters towards it ... little things..

Also, better healing/mp pots for christs sake.

320 hunter gear with buffs to crafting mat, drops would make me happy

Not a massive fan of this, at least with how it comes across.

Crafting could definitely be more interesting, but if we talk about interest with respect to just inflating our crafting logs with a metric tonne of recipes then doesn't work very well. For a while I've been a fan of the idea that both crafting and gathering could be added to dungeons in some element or another. Hidden key somewhere? Go fish it. Key is rusty and old? Repair it, or something similar.

But above all, I hope they stop adding artificial difficulty with these recipes. Off topic but increase CP cost for Manipulation II, and more importantly Prudent plzz, that ability should cost at least 40 CP

...The devs went out of their way to make crafted gear useful in bleeding edge progression with 4.0. But I guess some people won't be happy unless everyone's paying them millions upon millions of gil for BiS gear...

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Originally Posted by Ziggyzapps

[...] we're basically just crafting crafter gear so that we have better gear to craft more crafter gear...it's kinda redundant.

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Battle content at endgame revolves entirely around getting better battle gear to tackle content with higher iLvL restrictions to get better battle gear out of it so you can then do the battle content you got the gear from more easily until the next even patch where you get to do more battle content for even better battle gear. That and farming gear with inferior stats for glamour.

If that works fine for battle content and not for crafting content, maybe the deeper issue lies in the design of crafting content and not the redundancy of the system.

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Originally Posted by Zojha

*snip* maybe the deeper issue lies in the design of crafting content and not the redundancy of the system.

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The deeper issue might be that it's all a gear grind, treadmill and that's an issue with all MMO's and it's the core to burn out and apathy issues that all MMO's face. Both battle and crafting has seen most players skip intervals of the gear grind treadmill because they have done it 15 times. (How many people CBA to meld for the last phase knowing they would get this new 2 star?) I'm still just going to wait and see what augmented blue looks like. "Been there, done that". It's true for most aspects of the game.

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Originally Posted by Mrydeen

Also, better healing/mp pots for christs sake.

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This. The best ether we have is i150 from 3.1? 1700 MP just doesn't cut it any more. It was barely useful halfway through the HW xpac.
I wish meds affected more things (defensively and offensively) other than trash mobs and open world faceroll stuff.
They could add stuff like reraise pots (with a long cooldown, say 15 minutes?), refresh/regain meds, things that give mobs vulnerabilities, but no. SE doesn't want to bother testing all that for balances, and certainly doesn't want players cheesing mechanics.
So instead, they make alchemy a prerequisite bridge synth for every new DoL and DoH main. I hope ALC like the smell of snail oil.

I think something that would be nice would be to have crafting materials drop in 24man raid that you can use to craft any piece of loot from the raid. So if you're a crafter you can choose what loot you get each week instead of hoping for the drop. The piece you craft would be unique/untradable and can't be HQ. so it's the same item from the dungeon and you have to make it yourself and can't sell it in the MB.

Would just be a nice incentive to have crafting leveled that lets you bypass a little of tediousness of farming 24man raid for glamour/alt class.

I have to say using the raid thingy to upgrade our gear would actually be very nice.

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Originally Posted by Kaurhz

But above all, I hope they stop adding artificial difficulty with these recipes. Off topic but increase CP cost for Manipulation II, and more importantly Prudent plzz, that ability should cost at least 40 CP

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Why would you want these abilities to be more expensive? Manipulation II is already only barely more CP efficient than Manipulation, and less flexible. Prudent Touch at 40 CP wouldn't be worth using. What does making these more CP intensive help?

They should just remove glamour restrictions from crafted gear that is actually crafted by an actual crafter (has a signature). If the same gear is obtained from npcs, quests or quick ventures should maintain current glamour restrictions.

That would give a boost to demand for crafted gear, and give crafters more of a reason to make things, without crafters having to compete with "freebie" gear.

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Originally Posted by _Enigma_

Most of the crafters are COMPLETELY useless when it comes to the PVE content...! Ok maybe EXCEPT for the FIRST MONTH of release where you can craft some DECENT gear but other than that the ONLY crafter i EVER use now is CUL and ALC....

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Even in 4.1, I still see people with pentamelded crafted DoW/DoM accs - those seem to have some legs possibly. And of course you can craft crafting gear that you can use to craft more crafts, or gathering gear that you can use to gather materials for said crafts*.

Besides glamours you might consider minions, 500K gil for a cheap apartment, furniture for said apartment, an orchestrion for that apartment, and orchestrion rolls for that orchestrion! ;-)

*Sometimes though I do wonder if it's all a bit of a pyramid scheme though...

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Originally Posted by Sylvain

I have to say using the raid thingy to upgrade our gear would actually be very nice.

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I kind of like the idea of picking raid drop crafting materials as an option vs. raid drops or token purchases, as well as diadem-style gathering points inside dungeons or raids, or maybe special crafting rooms deep in the lairs of fierce monsters!