Suggestion to house buying criteria

First of all, this is an MMO, if you want anything good you have to grind your way for it, and I'm not just talking about just simply grinding gil, because there're tons of bot crafters & gatherers out there. If you want to make it fair for the truly dedicated & active fanbase who played all the contents this game has to offer, you better set a criteria who can buy which plot based on their current level status

-LARGE plot should only be buyable by those who have reached lv70 in all jobs
-MEDIUM plot: cut the above criteria by half
-SMALL plot: cut the above criteria by half

How to implement this into the current system? make it so that until the next housing patch is established, house/fc owners who're not satisfied with the aforementioned criteria will have their current plot auto-demolished, not only this will fix the current situation of alts abuse, but also enhance the other gameplay aspect, like DF queue time, healthier ingame economy, etc. Please consider this SE.

You shouldn't be forced to level all your jobs just to get a house....what? So you're suggesting people be forced to level classes they hate to play or that cause them great anxiety to play just for the opportunity to buy a home..? Besides, you can just buy job skip potions to get to 60 and go from there so it won't necessarily have much benefit, although it may put more money in SE's pocket...

Alt abuse could be solved much more simply by just locking it to 1 house per account per server. Also, I notice that you craft. Do you know what happens when EVERYONE is a level 70 crafter/gatherer??? Well, then it becomes pointless. I don't think it would create a healthy economy at all, rather it'd create one overflowing with supply and no demand to speak of.

There is a lot (and enough) grinding already just by trying to make enough money to buy a house tho.

Demolishing homes for people who don't meet new req of having all jobs to 70 would definitely cause a wave of people to unsub and quit. That is just cruel punishment. I guess empty plots would be easier to find when all the players are gone, but they should make a better solution that makes people happy instead of dropping nukes on the community.

Why players should be forced to level jobs, cause you love levelling so everyone else should also love it?

I like pvp and ranked specifically, let's set only diamond players have the right to purchase large plots.

Housing should open to everyone who enjoys the game

What a horrible suggestion this is!!!

Leveling all jobs to qualify to buy housing?

To prove what? That one does not have much going on IRL and a lot of time to spend in this game? What happens to the freedom to chose to play the only jobs that one likes?

We need a solution to the housing issue, but this proposal doesn’t even come close to a practical or probable solution.

That's the only way to fix the current problem of alt abuse now. Currently SE is looking into expanding server capacity & build more wards, but it's never gonna be enough, there's gonna be a majority of players who just log in at housing patch day, got lucky enough snipe a plot, then never got back, or flipping house for billions after that, and then never come back, or do little to contribute to server economy. By setting the leveling job requirement as a filter, it'd lessen the stress burden on the server side since there's only a small percentage of players who gonna have access to it, & it's gonna be the active people for sure. Plus, from a logistical point of view, SE will have enough data to know when they need to expand more wards in the future based on the percentage of players who are actively leveling & the amount of gil they currently have. It's a win-win situation for them. Housing should be considered an achievement privilege in this game & not a self-entitlement.

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Originally Posted by RemTsuki

it's gonna be the active people for sure.

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*stares at botters I've reported multiple times with all 70 classes that Square has done diddly about* Well their accounts' have been active, that's for sure.

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Originally Posted by RemTsuki

That's the only way to fix the current problem of alt abuse now.

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If you mean levelling is the only grinding in this game and making gils is not

No, we're paying sub, we have the right to enjoy the game in all aspects

Absolutely not. What a horrible idea. :eek:

This is stupid. Really stupid.

One of the key features of FFXIV is that you can play whatever class you want how much you want. Your suggestion goes entirely against that. Never mind the fact that there are people playing since 1.0 who wouldn't qualify for the ludicrous prerequisites. And auto-demolish if you don't meet them by the time they're introduced? I can tell you that if this ever comes to the game I will unsub.

I thought the thread suggesting veteran players get first dibs on a house was the worst housing suggestion I ever encountered, but your one manages to be even worse.

My vote is NO.
I don't like healing. I don't want to play a healer. Why should I have to level 2 healing classes (SCH can be leveled with SMN) to enjoy something I DO want. This sort of thing would make MANY people quit or just not join to begin with.
Do you also include all the crafting classes? Those are levelable to 70 as well but lots of the most dedicated players never even touch them.

AND gathering?

Grinding is a silly thing to reward. This isn't a JOB, it's a GAME and as such I am not paying to "put in hours".
If you feel you've earned something then great, I'm glad you can get that feeling and it IS part of the design of the game to GIVE you that feeling. But it isn't work. In the end the game will shut down and you will be left with nothing but memories of time you spent hopefully enjoying yourself. If you ever find yourself logging in just to put in the hours required for something and you aren't enjoying yourself? Quit, like.. right there. Not worth the time. The point I realized I was doing that is the point I stopped playing 12 games at once and narrowed it down to the ones I really had fun playing.

and has been mentioned before , level 70 bots are a thing, they're probably also the people flipping houses. Wouldn't stop them.

Yeah, hard pass. There's a lot of things they could do but that's pretty insane to expect people to level everything just to have a house.

Do not forget that jump potions can be used without limits now. If there are house market whales can dish out 500mils for housing, why wouldn't they spend money to max all the levels on one character just to purchase a house for bragging rights?

If character achievement is to be considered, total play time or basic 2.0 story completion would be better solutions to block out shell alts without taking away housing rights from active new players.

They recently eliminated the cross-class system because it forced players to play classes they might have no interest in, just to get an essential ability, such as healers having to level thaumaturge to get swiftcast. They specifically noted the change from cross-class to role skills was so that people would *not* have to play a class they didn't want. The level 15 subclass requirement to pickup a job (for example, needing level 15 conjurer to become a paladin) was also removed for the same reason.

SE has made it clear they don't want players to feel forced into playing classes they don't want. Your suggestion is completely contradictory to their current philosophy, and therefore will never fly.

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Originally Posted by RemTsuki

That's the only way to fix the current problem of alt abuse now. Currently SE is looking into expanding server capacity & build more wards, but it's never gonna be enough, there's gonna be a majority of players who just log in at housing patch day, got lucky enough snipe a plot, then never got back, or flipping house for billions after that, and then never come back, or do little to contribute to server economy. By setting the leveling job requirement as a filter, it'd lessen the stress burden on the server side since there's only a small percentage of players who gonna have access to it, & it's gonna be the active people for sure. Plus, from a logistical point of view, SE will have enough data to know when they need to expand more wards in the future based on the percentage of players who are actively leveling & the amount of gil they currently have. It's a win-win situation for them. Housing should be considered an achievement privilege in this game & not a self-entitlement.

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There will always be people gaming the system, but I literally JUST gave another solution to this by suggesting one house per account per server. Grandfather the people who have more for now, if they lose it to the auto-demolition timer then they no longer can buy more than 1 plot going forward.

They could also have systems that monitor housing in some way. If someone purchases a plot and relinquishes it or allows the auto-timer to clock out within the first x number of months of owning the plot, investigate the next person who buys the house to examine if they have done any trades for exorbitant amounts of gil, made any extremely large purchases or put any large amount of money in a company chest; if so then investigate further to find the scalpers.

The best part about FFXIV is that you CAN play all the classes.... or you can play a few, or you can play just one. No one should be forced to play all the classes and frankly, people who level just one are not necessarily less active than those who level all of them. They may raid constantly, play around in the gold saucer, do beast tribes, help new members in their FC or even just new members in general, etc.

If someone worked hard for the gil to get the house then they have earned it. Entitlement would be if someone believed housing shouldn't cost any gil and everyone should have it handed to them. No, look around. People are complaining because they WORKED HARD to save up gil for months. They worked hard to practice a route and be prepared. They got online right at server up. And still failed. I'm so sick of people who think they're somehow better than everyone else just because they level up all their classes. If my tank can tank really well, I don't care if that's his only job to 70 or if he has every job to 70 - I'm very happy to heal for him. If my tank CAN'T tank to save his life, having all other jobs to 70 might explain that pally isn't his main but it doesn't really make the trial any less exasperating, does it? Let people play the jobs they feel comfortable with.

im sorry but horrible idea... some people play everyday but leveling all jobs isnt their thing.. they do everything else.. so to punish them like that for simply enjoying other things in the game even tho they are as active as you... horrible idea :/ but i guess its great cuz YOU have all your jobs 70... sorry your ideas will make things worse.. the issue is personal houses can be bought multiple times on same account with different alts.. this has to be stopped.. we dont have a chance to get our fc house.

What lol? So you have to have all classes at 70 to be regarded as active. Why not just make it so that only ppl with O4s clear can get a house? Yep my suggestion is dumb too.
I'm not even sure I will lvl all classes to 70 I have my main/secondary + all crafts and gather on 1 account and now I am doing the same on an alt. As I mainly enjoy raiding and crafting but want to have a second class geared closer to my first. Although I have a second account I'm not greedy enough to think I need another house on my alt. Saying that I do have my alt on a friends house to watch their garden if they are offline.

Hahaha! "I have all jobs at 70 so let's implement this rule that grants me a house." Yeah I'm sure the rest of the community will embrace this.

Ah yes, a house should only be allowed to people who can play the game much more than other people and have fun leveling classes they don't enjoy. Not a good suggestion.