Housing suggestion - post Yoshi-P's announcement

Hi there! I know there's been an announcement made, and here are some suggestions.

Housing should be limited to one personal house per server. Those who own multiple houses should receive a notice to pick which they want to keep, while the others get removed. They should be reimbursed similar to the demolition reimbursement already implemented. Take the people on Mateus who bought up a whole ward, there was no housing available to anyone who switched. Who needs 30 houses anyway? There are also the "flippers" or "scalpers" that like to buy multiple plots and resell them for ridiculous amounts of gil, i.e. 70mil for a small.

Here's a screenshot of one of the listings on r/ffxivhousing (it has been deleted since but there are similar listings) :
https://i.imgur.com/tvfqp6B.png
https://78.media.tumblr.com/3dd3a701...hjfo1_1280.jpg

Players should only be allowed to own one personal housing plot and one FC plot per server. Apartments are many in number, so those can stay one per character and possibly allow a 2nd tenant. To add to the "one per server", somehow allow access to your other characters as well, similar to tenants but for yourself. This would mean being able to change the owner of the house amongst your characters, if you were to transfer one of them elsewhere.

Another suggestion is having a 30+ day cooldown after buying/relocating a plot. That in itself should be for buying as a whole, so no one can mass buy, if a limit isn't implemented on how many someone can buy. They can buy multiple, but now they have to wait a month before they can. Y'know?

This is to ultimately prevent people from buying multiple houses and reselling for a ridiculous amount of money. It will also allow other individuals and FCs to obtain housing and not congest the wards.

tl;dr :
EXTREME Measures:
- One personal house AND one FC house per server
- Multiple houses opted to be demo'd and reimbursed

ALTERNATIVE Measures:
- Make buying and relocating have a 30+ day cool down.
- Meaning, a player can only purchase a plot 30+ days at a time.
- Limit the amount of houses a player can buy.

ADDITIONAL Suggestions:
- Add a 2nd tenant to apartments, keep them as is per character.

Thanks, my feedback is 1 personal and 1 fc house per account

I'd like to see tenancy for alts in personal housing a thing. Like my main has a personal house but I wish my alt could also use it kind of thing. I don't see why you're not allowed to friend your own characters :/
I don't intend to buy a second house for my alt though (I'm already of the opinion one house per person per server/account). I just wish I could use the same house on that character so I can check things while I use them instead of my main.

Thanks for the feedback, everyone! :)

I agree with one personal, and one FC also, in addition to allowing alts (at least from the same world) accessing the same home.

Furthermore, if instanced housing is considered, I strongly support personal as instanced and FCs in existing neighbourhood wards.

However, caution must be considered against 1 man shell FCs in future housing plots.

One solution would be this:

(Instance house/or maybe even plot housing)
Have an NPC that sells ghost plots. Meaning paying for a plot that doesn't exist in the game. So long you have the money you can just pay it.
Pros: Zero randomnesses, Zero obstructions and 100% availability so long you have the GIL.

[If instance]
Then once it is paid, you will immediately receive the plot

[If normal plot]
Then once it is paid, you wait for the next "Ghost housing implementation patch day" where Square Enix will launch those houses for people used the NPC to buy the house. That way there will be no oversupply and won't stress the server. You will get it eventually maybe wait for a month or two instead of never getting it. This will also give you (developers) time to put in plots/wards that will balance out demand/supply. Everyone will get a house, so long they can pay for it. That should be the only ceiling of getting the house.

Also, 1 house for personal and 1 for FC. This is key.

Change apartment to Condominium

The condominium will be a duplex type condo meaning there will be two floors and will be the size of a small house. A balcony can be purchased as an upgrade for gardening.

Put fun into getting a condo, you can add Condominium utility which everyone in that condo unit can share these utilities, these utilities would be:

1) A gym - training dummies for everyone to use
2) A SWIMMING POOL (So people can swim and stuff)
3) Workshop (Where people can use crafting station for a small fee)
4) BBQ pit! People can buy food there and be a gather spot for people to chill and meet with her condominium owners!
5) ChocoPark (Carpark) where you can park your chocobo there and do Chocobo stuff
6) Condo transport to people to Exploratory Voyages.

These will help because you will then eliminate the need for people to get their own house because they can do everything in it!~
PLUS IT IS AN INSTANCE thus helping with the server stress if any.

I'm liking this instanced idea! That would definitely help... Loving the feedback :)

I keep seeing people just say "get rid of personal housing" but that's literally not going to solve anything haha

Updated with a screenshot to show that people are apparently offering real money for a house. A medium house.

Quote:

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Originally Posted by Aciidwire

"get rid of personal housing"

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I strongly agree that nothing will be solved, because this idea is horrible. I would be quitting FFXIV altogether since the main reason I play is casual content with my FC friends.

Quote:

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Originally Posted by Aciidwire

Updated with a screenshot to show that people are apparently offering real money for a house. A medium house.

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The evidence is there for years (namely FFXIV housing subreddit), but the dev team chose to ignore it.

They wouldn't do anything about it either since it is outside of game and official forums, as trading outside of the game isn't against T&C directly.

Buyer posts on party finder or shouts etc do not get in trouble, instead, sellers do but they are often too smart (using previously mentioned external portals).

By the way, by sharing these screenshots, you may be banned/blocked from the housing reddit post instead of actually apprehending the house flipper. Unfortunately, this is only one of the many issues with the way SE is dealing with house flipping right now.

Oh, I don't care if I'm banned from it tbh. I don't really use reddit in the first place and the main reason I started going on again was to get screenshots. All is good! :)

Still haven't been banned from the subreddit :>

Bringing this back to life because relevance!

well if your gonna make all houses 1 per account then theres no reason for 2 account types...so drop everyones account price $3 that has the 8 character accounts since now you have 1 character and 7 alts instead of 8 unique characters belevie it or not some people play there characters totaly differnt. I sure dont want my female character living in my males house its a mess

And love love love the attitude about the mathus people...it took them a year + i bet to get them houses .When they bought them there was still plenty of empty plots there...But as you said NOW that we moved here..there lets take them away cause we decided this will be the new rp server... lmao don't forget your tiki torchs when your march haha

Try putting in a resale timer on plots so once land is released the house dosen't go up forsale for say 1 to 7 days guess what you just killed personal house flipping..
Cause we all know in Business if you can't guarantee me the goods im not gonna buy from you...So if the flipper cant promise the land to the buyer who in therr right mind buys from them

And you might stop and think some of us multi house owners have owned these houses for years. and there was still 100's of empty plots..we didnt just up and buy the market out lol NO you came to where we are in most cases..it wasnt until you were unhappy with your sevrers that you came to ours and are now demanding we give up our multi lots cause u didn't like ur home server and wern't one of the first couple hundred to get a house...

How about we stop trying to find bandaid fixs and demand the problem of supply be met if you have 7500 characters on a server and 2,880 houses no matter how many multi houses u get rid of it wont help. your just trading one pissed off player for another...This is a multi million dollar company..who we pay every month i know i pay $26.99 a month plus mog station buys..if your gonna allow 7500 people on a server you damn well should supply 7500 + house on that server.. Stop trying to make excuses for SE and go after them to honestly fix the supply of houses

My idea is there should be one housing suggestion thread per forum. Did you really need to create a new thread giving the same ideas that were posted in the others?

Want to stop house flipping? Disable the ability to relinquish a house... but keep the auto-demolition... nobody is gonna hand over that much money and then have to wait 45 days for plot to open... especially when there is a chance they won't be online when the plot opens up...

1 personal and 1 fc per account doesn't fix the problem. Even if they went to one house per account period (which I agree with), there still wouldn't be enough houses to accommodate the population. These suggestions are just band-aids and we should be demanding fixes.

Apartments could be lofts rather than condos. The only issues I see with more than one room in an apt is that small houses which have only 2 rooms are way more costly. That would make the outside area cost several million in relation. I vote for 1 FC, 1 house, 1 apt per account and alts can share. I have an awesome medium house that my alt cannot use..silly. The only real fix is instanced housing. Buy your standard, same for all pie in the sky or where ever and start with either a small, med or large upgrade. Outside placement could depend on home size. Fun could be had with housing, inset mini games, gathering nodes, promotes community involvement when they come and visit.