Havent seen one thread on Shinryu ex

How is the fight , I just wana have a general Idea before I go hope in and do it. The housing anger is crowding the forums so if their was a thread on this then its no where to be found. Has he already been beating yet, just a quick post tryin to debate on jumping right in or waiting til Mr happy or mtq makes a guide for it?

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Originally Posted by bswpayton

How is the fight , I just wana have a general Idea before I go hope in and do it. The housing anger is crowding the forums so if their was a thread on this then its no where to be found. Has he already been beating yet, just a quick post tryin to debate on jumping right in or waiting til Mr happy or mtq makes a guide for it?

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Everyone is focused on raging about housing. From the small bit I saw this morning, it's pretty tough, first time I've seen an EX Primal wipe in the first 30 seconds...

You start on the 3x3 tile arena. The 2 tiles next to the center one are immediately destroyed and some get cracks from Earthern Fury so you end up with an I shape. Haven't seen further than first couple minutes.

Only did some of first phase, there is a new tail mechanic that you have to bait properly (green crystal on player) in a way to keep them up as long as possible (hit as many uncracked tiles as possible) to keep them up to make the rest of mechanics easier to deal with, if the middle tile shatters from tail you instantly wipe. Cracked tiles can take 1 more tail before shattering, fresh ones 2. Only seen 2 tails, first one targets a healer, the second is a dps.

Heart respawns sometimes (Dps check)

Does an additional mechanic with specials (seen Tidal Wave + Thorns, Diamond Dust + Thorns, Hellfire/Judgment Bolt + no telegraph Icicle but same range as in normal (tries to knock you out of water you need to be in for hellfire/knock you into water you shouldn't be in for bolt) and most of the indicators/telegraphs are gone. (i.e Hypernova cast with no stack marker but still have to stack, Levinbolt with no purple arrows) Nothing too terrible but really easy to wipe.

Go to twitch right now and watch it. Seems like a proper difficulty. Definitely on par with O3S

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Originally Posted by Malzian

Everyone is focused on raging about housing. From the small bit I saw this morning, it's pretty tough, first time I've seen an EX Primal wipe in the first 30 seconds...

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its really bad ive never even seen the forums rage like this since whm problems :/

I'm scared to try it

I've gathered so far on the fight. Pls correct me if I'm wrong

In this order:

1. Earthen Fury (breaks the middle W & E panels) Large AOE damage to group, wipe if heart is not destroyed before cast ends.
   
2. Group wide chain. Every member is chained to another, distance from each other to break.
   
3. Tidal wave. Can knock you off
   
4. Green marker over a player (As Vaer mentioned, it appears that the marked player is where the tail will hit)
   
5. Icicles from the south, line attack from south to north.
   
6. Tail Slam
   
7. R. wing casts Hyper Nova. AOE
   
8. Ground slam middle panel
   
9. Ice Storm. Slippery floor
   
10. Ank Morn.
    
11. Icicles S to N
    
12. Judgement bolt. Stay away from puddles.
    
13. Green mark on player
    
14. R. wing cast levin bolt AOE
15. L. wing cast ice storm AOE
    
16. Group wide chain.
    
17. Earth Breath (I think this is a line attack)

This was still the first phase. All the notes I have atm.

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Originally Posted by Misstique

I've gathered so far on the fight. Pls correct

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First phase geez ha shall be fun I see that's a good bit

lol, there was actually more but I hit the character limit. Also, that was only part of the first phase, not the whole first phase itself. yikes!~

The group I was in got to around 70% (so Earth Shakers, roughly speaking, or the 2nd Akh Morn). The hardest thing about the fight is tunnel vision. If you lose focus for a second--and I mean anyone in the group-- things can go from good to a wipe in a heartbeat. Luckily, it's pretty obvious what killed you when it happens and how you can fix it.

I've watched a few videos out of idle curiosity, and yeah, the first phase seems pretty easy. Reinforcing mechanics learned from what we know of the fight as is, a few moments where players with the green marker pull to a back tile and kill the tail when it drops, and that thing (mini-add phase?) with the purple dragon heads to break tethers. Just very healing intensive even if the party is doing things right.

...Then the second phase starts, big proximity ring in the center, naturally everyone decides to split up and run as far away as possible, then promptly wipe as they get trolled by an unexpected knockback mechanic.

...Then the videos I watch just kinda awkwardly end after that or go on to raid something else. Wish I could see the rest of the fight, considering I doubt anyone will invite me to run it.

TFW you found more than one phase before the ATM and I still consider everything before the acrive time maneuver the same phase (boss doesn't disengage, doesn't alter the set of mechanics noticeably; one option to count phases is to mark them as hearts/dragonheads spawn, another is just call it all mechanics of phase1 until you fly away).

Shinryu murders me so many times, enjoying too much of it.

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Originally Posted by Misstique

lol, there was actually more but I hit the character limit. Also, that was only part of the first phase, not the whole first phase itself. yikes!~

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Edit post, bypasses character limit. Weird I know but it works.

Raid team just did about an hour on it, got it to 50%. Mind you, plenty of members were tired from early morning housing hopes, and we're a very midcore team, so our progression will be quite a bit slower than server first teams (but I'd still say much faster than PF). Seems to be a pretty solid difficulty, though I personally am not a fan of the design. Static is definitely having fun with it though, and it's a HUGE step up from Lakshmi and Susano, IMO.

This fight is so last season. Shirogane Savage is where it's at nowadays.

I’ve tried it. (Still am actually.) It’s no joke.

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Originally Posted by Fredco191

I’ve tried it. (Still am actually.) It’s no joke.

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Happy brought out jus guide so I def prefer doing it now over going in blinde that never works out well for me ha

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Originally Posted by Misstique

I've gathered so far on the fight. Pls correct me if I'm wrong

In this order:

1. Earthen Fury (breaks the middle W & E panels) Large AOE damage to group, wipe if heart is not destroyed before cast ends.
   
2. Group wide chain. Every member is chained to another, distance from each other to break.
   
3. Tidal wave. Can knock you off
   
4. Green marker over a player (As Vaer mentioned, it appears that the marked player is where the tail will hit)
   
5. Icicles from the south, line attack from south to north.
   
6. Tail Slam
   
7. R. wing casts Hyper Nova. AOE
   
8. Ground slam middle panel
   
9. Ice Storm. Slippery floor
   
10. Ank Morn.
    
11. Icicles S to N
    
12. Judgement bolt. Stay away from puddles.
    
13. Green mark on player
    
14. R. wing cast levin bolt AOE
15. L. wing cast ice storm AOE
    
16. Group wide chain.
    
17. Earth Breath (I think this is a line attack)
    

This was still the first phase. All the notes I have atm.

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I have seen it as far as that when i tried the duty. Earth breath works like the Sephirot attack when it marks 2 players and they must spread to save the whole party.