I've come to that conclusion: I'll never be able to own a house in this game. It's very simple: I live in Brazil, I play on a crappy laptop and on PS4 (when I'm home). My server is Sargatanas. It's just impossible. I don't have SSD.
In conclusion: you have to live close to the datacenter, play on an awesome computer and have a SSD. Preferably on a low pop server.
I'm paying for a content that I'll never be able to access. Not only that, the price to play skyrocketed for my country. I'm been subscribed for 1410 days. Yeah, since day one.
Thanks SE.
I'll NEVER be able to own a house
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10-10-2017, 07:31 PMMarcusI'll NEVER be able to own a house
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10-10-2017, 07:33 PMsilentwindfr
i will be blunt, house must be for FC they have a content special for FC that is tie to the housing... the trouble is most of the house now is get by player that litterally barely use it. an appartement is pefect for player, at worst, they can create a system with bigger appartement that cost more to purchase... but right now, i feel the housing need a massive rework for allows the FC to be able to access the FC workshop with the FC crafting and the FC Airship... something you can't get access without a house.
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10-10-2017, 07:34 PMMaero
You and me both. Been trying since housing launched and also been playing this game about 4 years.
Maybe just maybe someone will finally listen about the many complaints, screw the whole "community feel" and just add more housing with a choice of instanced or non instanced -
10-10-2017, 07:38 PMsilentwindfrthat another solutionQuote:
Originally Posted by Maero
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10-10-2017, 07:38 PMRegnumMagik
IF ONLY I DIDNT GET KICK OUT OF THE LOBBY
IF ONLY THE LOG IN BUTTON WAS CLICKABLE AFTER I GOT KICKED OUT
IF ONLY I DIDNT GET A 1167 QUEUE AFTER I WAS FUCKED FOR 5 MINUTES
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10-10-2017, 07:51 PMhiedra
It took 3 whole minutes for the "Log In" button on my patcher to work (it was non-responsive) By the time I got it to work I was already on a 1.7k person queue. This queue lasted 20 whole minutes, and by the time I was in the game everything had filled up. Even The Goblet plots from the people that had moved were gone. Meanwhile this person in my server who owns like 40+ different plots (on different accounts) even managed to snatch up a new plot in Shirogane.
Extremely disappointed. I started a new FC last Spring, but I'm having trouble recruiting members because a lot of players don't take FCs without homes seriously. Was hoping that this patch would help me grow my FC. Guess not. Oh well. At least the few members that I have are genuinely kind people. Just sad because we were all so hyped for housing. -
10-10-2017, 11:19 PMMarcus
They never talk about this problem. Never... That's what is the most offensive thing about this whole situation.
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10-10-2017, 11:30 PMBloodrayne2452
I've been waiting 3 years to own a house. And while I was fortunate to get one today, I almost didn't because patch download took longer then I thought. Didn't get the plot i wanted, nor did my friend, but we got one. And only minutes later they were sold out and PF was full of people selling plots. That just isn't right.
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10-10-2017, 11:37 PMFoxyArekusame, friend.Quote:
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10-10-2017, 11:50 PMKohlYis
My friend was trying to get her and I a house since I currently have no access to the game (moving) and she was stuck in a 2000+ queue and was unable to get anything. Now if there was an equal opportunity for everyone to get a house I wouldn't be as upset but because there was all these queues preventing people to even get in the game. Its unfair. At this rate it's almost a privilege to own a house. Sure there's an apartment but you can't get outside furniture or a garden and it's just they need to change housing. There's a way less amount of supply of houses for the demand to own one.
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10-10-2017, 11:54 PMRofelProblem is: there are a crapload of FCs with a single user and its alts. The system as it is is flawed for individuals and FCs alike.Quote:
Originally Posted by silentwindfr
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10-11-2017, 12:51 AMHsr38Quote:
Originally Posted by RegnumMagik
Thats exacly what happen to me, but not to the people that actually could buy a house . A nice and fair system. SE enjoy reading I'm said and disappointed!!! I know you guys love it -
10-11-2017, 12:53 AMAyerinnto be fair that is the only way you can actually share a house with your own alts... they need to fix that. it is also the only way to give items to your alts without the use of a middle man...another glaring issue.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rofel
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10-11-2017, 01:45 AMKeicho
it would be much more familiar when only FC can have houses. For single Player are Apartments. I mean to have everDay neighbour instead of empty house would be much more fun.
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10-11-2017, 02:17 AMPowe
On Gilgamesh there was a guy selling a small house for 450 million gil.......... and someone bought it
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10-11-2017, 02:28 AMCage
i have a pretty low spec pc, no ssd, and 5.500km distance to Tonberry- the most congested server.
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10-11-2017, 04:33 AMNoctusT
My FC leader lives right by the data centers, just installed a SSD into her PC and has a really good wired internet connection. She also planned out the backup mansions and choose a ward that was not one of the first ones. She even practiced the best route to the house.
Yet, we were unable to get a FC mansion or even a medium house on Brynhildr, one of the preferred worlds, as she got a lobby error when she was in queue. She also stayed up to download the patch early.
A lot of the housing situation today was RNG. It's not that people didn't plan out or didn't "have backup houses" so please stop blaming the folks who had bad luck.
On the other hand, stop thinking that "you have to live close to the datacenter, play on an awesome computer and have a SSD" is the solution to all your problems. Many people living close/ far to the data centers with/without SSD drives and with/without good internet connection planned to get houses and had backups. They were unable to today due to rng -
10-11-2017, 04:37 AMSubucnimorning
It is crazy that they have this policy that they want them to be exclusive so they limit the total amount of plots but don't limit the number per account so one person can have multiples while some have none. If they really want it to be exclusive make them ridiculously expensive but don't have the limiting factor be whether or not you can login the moment servers are up and are able to win the queue battle
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10-11-2017, 04:40 AMBlairYSThey once did that for 2.1 release where Balmung and Gilgamesh servers cost 320 million for Large, and 120 for Medium and 50 for Small. The developers apologized and then later lowered the price down by a lot where large was 80 and so forth.Quote:
Originally Posted by Subucnimorning
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10-11-2017, 04:41 AMNoctusTAgreed, if they were going to limit it, I wish they would make it something like: You can own 2 houses (1 personal, 1 FC) per server per account. So your alt on leviathan can get a house (for those people who actually play on two characters and don't use alts for market board shenanigans). I'm sure folks would complain if SE locked it to 2 houses per account.Quote:
Originally Posted by Subucnimorning
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10-11-2017, 04:46 AMwizisi2k
I logged in the second I saw servers were up to a 800 ish quene. Once I was in, I was able to look at ward 1 which was full so I moved to ward 2. Once inside, I set /busy on and moved as fast as I could to the plot a person who gave me cash to purchase picked. I got it and put up the building. Shortly thereafter, the ward was all bought out. The large near the house is owned by a FC someone is looking to sell and I doubt they are looking to make back what they paid. I can't report as I didn't see the name in PF to tell a GM. All you need is time and luck which shouldn't be needed. For a FC getting a house it should be simple. Desperate player and FC housing-make the former instanced wards that dynamically increase (maybe have them pay a small fee to the mogstation to afford the instancing servers) based on demand. Maybe also move wards from dead servers to be used for highly-populated worlds. Also, increase the max # of apartments. One house per service account (2 if FC leader & even better: one personal house per security token) PER server. That would alleviate the problem a little.
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10-11-2017, 04:53 AMLegewielI live in Brazil as well and I have a house and then i changed server and i were also able to get a house on the new server that is more crowded that the one that i was before.Quote:
Originally Posted by Marcus
Ofc it were going to be hard to get a house in shirogane, everyone was aiming for it, even ppl that already had a house. But if you check everyday you'll eventually get a house cause of the demolition system, specially when there is less people playing, this is how i get mine. (Demolition system isn't working right now cause ppl on the board asked the devs to stop it for some weeks, but it'll be back soon) -
10-11-2017, 05:07 AMAkira
what they should have done was set shirogane to auto open later in the day instead of when the servers came up that way it would have given everybody a chance to log into the game, i know it wouldnt solve a whole lot but at least you would get a chance rather then being stuck behind a queue without even a chance to try
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10-11-2017, 05:25 AMmsfakefurI'm calling it BS. I live in Brazil too and used to have a house until I transferred. Didn't bother to get a new one, but I'm quite sure I could get one if I wanted. You're clearly overreactingQuote:
Originally Posted by Marcus
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10-11-2017, 05:37 AMMikki
I'm not sure if it's possible for you, but if you switch to a low pop server you can definitely get a house if you don't care about where and what size! It may look disheartening to join a low pop server and see everything is taken already, but if you constantly check the housing wards (if the auto-demolish timer isn't paused) every single day (especially at off-peak hours) then you will see something open up! Before the timers on the NA servers were paused, I stalked lavender beds and saw tons of smalls and a few mediums open up. Larges are another case, but if you just want a house and don't care then it's possible on small servers if you're willing/able to transfer! I'm guessing it'll be even better between patches when people stop playing.
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10-11-2017, 10:04 AMFraggle
We all had the same chance and most of us even done pre plans to make sure we got the plot we wanted but as I found out it was the most intense thing ever just trying to get a home by luck I picked up a small plot I was 600+ in the que also a friend was 900+ in the que he also got a small house by luck but we have no chance of anything better :( and then today I see the dirt bags selling them and making a quick flip should SQE ban those accounts it's easy for them to run a script to see who purchased land and has that land changed hands ?
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10-11-2017, 10:33 AMxAnnex
Same here. I'm a Brazilian player from Siren, playing on PS4 with a relatively good internet. Didn't have troubles downloading the launcher nor the patch, but since Siren is one of the prefered servers now, as soon as I managed to log in (after a 600+ ppl queue) most of the plots were already taken. Mind you, this all happened within what? 2-5 min after servers came back up. My FC mates and I have been working absurdly hard, crafting crazily, doing everything we can do, saving loads of money for three years and planned to relocate the FC house to Shirogane. In the end, all we got were launcher/patch download errors, an absurd queue for a server where usually a 20 ppl queue was already too long, and not even a chance to try to get a new plot for our home. Disappointing and unfair, to say the least.
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10-11-2017, 01:10 PMNoshpan
I've long since accepted that I will never have a house in the game. For my characters in FCs, I am contenting myself to just having a private chamber all to myself. Which, in the grand scheme of things, I'm fine. I do feel bad for those players & free companies, whom have been saving gil months (if not a year or more) in the hopes of getting a plot in Shirogane.
Sadly, 2 of the FCs I have characters in, that were planning to relocate their FC houses to Shirogane, were unable to do so. They plots were purchased up in under 30 minutes. In the case of my main's server, the majority of the plots were purchased by a single free company (so that they can later resell them at over the original listing price).
For starters, I really wish something could be done about, what an FC mate dubbed, "scalpers".
, so I don
Secondly, I wish that they had gone the route that EverQuest 2 did with their housing (I haven't played the original EverQuest since 2000, so I don't know if the game even has player housing). EQ2 housing was instanced. Multiple players could go to the same looking building, but inside each player got their own instanced version of the house.
But I understand that there are technical limitations that prohibits them from going that route. But a potato can dream, eh? -
10-11-2017, 01:58 PMamadeus0403idea to make housing fair
How about housing as a veteran reward for consistant players? it could work like it is a ward that no one can buy from this ward is rewards only making it fair. now if a person has no house they have a permit for a small and ones who already have a small have a option to move to medium so on so forth not these could be fc only or both fc or personal iether way its a fair and consistant way of doing this no buy option at all cutting out high price sellers too. just a thought.
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10-11-2017, 02:33 PMKeicho
Wow second Account ? Betee get 5 houses useless than let other get?
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10-11-2017, 02:35 PMKeicho
And we dont had Same Chance . Most People had to work