PS4 players and Shirogane

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10-08-2017, 12:28 PM
KuraiKurai

PS4 players and Shirogane

I would like to know how you guys will do it since majority of the houses will get claim, by pc advantage, right as you login. As a ps4 player I have to restart ff everytime I download a patch, as for pc players they can simply log off and log back on without serbacks.
10-08-2017, 12:34 PM
Dustytome

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Originally Posted by KuraiKurai

I would like to know how you guys will do it since majority of the houses will get claim, by pc advantage, right as you login. As a ps4 player I have to restart ff everytime I download a patch, as for pc players they can simply log off and log back on without serbacks.

I don't know how the patch works for ps4, but I know for pc it's available to download for quite some time before the patch goes live. Aren't you able to just download and restart before the patch is live?
10-08-2017, 01:49 PM
zonderbunny

As a ps4 user this is exactly what I usually do. Seems like the patch is ready for download at least a couple hours before it goes live.
10-08-2017, 09:36 PM
Krokov

Previous patches for me I'll download the patch when it's available which is usually a little before the servers are actually up and running then I'll have to re log back in of course but as I understand it everyone does since it completely logs out everyone from the server, PC or not.
10-09-2017, 12:18 AM
Stormfur

How do you see if the patch is pre downloaded?
10-09-2017, 12:41 AM
Zetsumei_Tsunarashi

Yeah the patch server always goes live a few hours before the actual game servers do. You just have to keep opening the launcher and checking to know when it's available. If you wake up an hour or two before the servers are scheduled to go live, you should be good to go.

Unfortunately this doesn't solve the issue of PC players with SSDs loading into the game faster than PS4 users with HDDs. Unless you installed an SSD in your PS4 :P
10-09-2017, 01:04 AM
Lelila38

Lol the few minutes it's gonna take to restart the game are your issue?
Everyone in Europe who has a job is basically screwed, patch goes live at 11am, it'll be hours before any working person in Europe can log on. Houses will all be gone by then.
10-09-2017, 02:02 AM
Serilda

I'm not worried about the SSD thing (a lot of PC users are still on HDDs while a lot of PS4 users upgraded anyway) but the persistent (and random-seeming) DNS issue which screws up the connection on PSN on patch days is a worry. I'm going to have my mobile connection ready in case I need to switch over quickly without playing trial and error with the PS4's DNS settings.

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Originally Posted by Lelila38

it'll be hours before any working person in Europe can log on.

No, some of us went to the trouble of taking a day off work because we wanted a house. And a lot of people work different hours to you. Honestly, there are options.
10-09-2017, 11:59 AM
gbe931

Outside of an active subscription and having the gil on your character, no one should not be spending any more real money on SSD's and the such. It is not incumbent upon the player base to have to go through so many loops and hurdles, this is something the developers of this game needs to fix by making enough wards to meet the demand. It is utter garbage that people have accepted this method of thinking rather than push on SE to do right by their paying customers. Currently on the dev tracker their popular thread (that is being expedited to the dev team) is DYEABLE GEAR and not additional Housing Wards. Why you ask? Well you need to ask SE why DYEABLE GEAR is such a high priority vs. housing.
10-09-2017, 01:10 PM
Lelila38

You should also not be forced to align your work schedule with an ingame patch. There are other ways, for example bring them up at different times on different data centers. Or even better, five everyone the ability to own a house by making it instanced or add more wards.
And before any of you jump at me and call me salty: yes I'm EU, no I'm not going for a Shirogane house, I'm not moving from Mist.
10-09-2017, 02:58 PM
Lambdafish

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Originally Posted by Lelila38

You should also not be forced to align your work schedule with an ingame patch. There are other ways, for example bring them up at different times on different data centers. Or even better, five everyone the ability to own a house by making it instanced or add more wards.
And before any of you jump at me and call me salty: yes I'm EU, no I'm not going for a Shirogane house, I'm not moving from Mist.

It will always inconvenience someone. The current setup is there to least inconvenience the devs work schedule. I'd rather the devs aren't forced to work in the middle of the night just so a different part of the world can get a better chance at a house.
10-10-2017, 03:45 AM
Beckett

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Originally Posted by Lelila38

You should also not be forced to align your work schedule with an ingame patch.

Then you would have the people who work different schedules shouting that the patch didn't fit their schedule.

Complaints about the general lack of housing compared to the demand will never not be warranted, though.
10-10-2017, 04:15 AM
silverlunarfox

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Originally Posted by gbe931

Outside of an active subscription and having the gil on your character, no one should not be spending any more real money on SSD's and the such. It is not incumbent upon the player base to have to go through so many loops and hurdles, this is something the developers of this game needs to fix by making enough wards to meet the demand. It is utter garbage that people have accepted this method of thinking rather than push on SE to do right by their paying customers. Currently on the dev tracker their popular thread (that is being expedited to the dev team) is DYEABLE GEAR and not additional Housing Wards. Why you ask? Well you need to ask SE why DYEABLE GEAR is such a high priority vs. housing.

Housing is optional and not critical to the game itself. That will never change in SE's eyes. It's why they are bringing in even more apartments.

That being said SSD's are amazing and highly recommended for consoles in general. The difference is staggering.

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Originally Posted by Lelila38

You should also not be forced to align your work schedule with an ingame patch. There are other ways, for example bring them up at different times on different data centers. Or even better, five everyone the ability to own a house by making it instanced or add more wards.
And before any of you jump at me and call me salty: yes I'm EU, no I'm not going for a Shirogane house, I'm not moving from Mist.

It's a game. They don't care about your work schedule. You play when you can, the game will be waiting.

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Originally Posted by Serilda

I'm not worried about the SSD thing (a lot of PC users are still on HDDs while a lot of PS4 users upgraded anyway) but the persistent (and random-seeming) DNS issue which screws up the connection on PSN on patch days is a worry. I'm going to have my mobile connection ready in case I need to switch over quickly without playing trial and error with the PS4's DNS settings.

No, some of us went to the trouble of taking a day off work because we wanted a house. And a lot of people work different hours to you. Honestly, there are options.

I took the day off. not just the house, but to die repeatedly in the first 24 man runs. :D

Change your router settings to a different DNS. I switched to google DNS servers and never had an issue since.
10-10-2017, 04:33 AM
Aldotsk

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Originally Posted by silverlunarfox

Housing is optional and not critical to the game itself. That will never change in SE's eyes. It's why they are bringing in even more apartments.

Apartment is not going to solve housing.
10-10-2017, 04:35 AM
silverlunarfox

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Originally Posted by Aldotsk

Apartment is not going to solve housing.

Of course its not. I never said it would. But its also not their priority.
10-10-2017, 05:16 AM
Aldotsk

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Originally Posted by silverlunarfox

Of course its not. I never said it would. But its also not their priority.

It's okay. 4.1 was kind of a dead point patch honestly besides 24 man raid. Which seems like a way to make people play more. And PVP is becoming more MOBA style which makes no sense. Now we are playing League of Legends in 3rd person view. Lastly, one Expert dungeon seems pointless as well as swimming in housing seems not a priority but they did it anyways. Kind of interesting how they didn't prepare enough like launch of 4.0
10-10-2017, 05:18 AM
Lelila38

Honestly all this wouldn't be an issue if they finally acknowledged housing is broken and they can never meet the demand. Put them all in instances and let everyone gave access to their own house.
As long as I can have my friends enter my little instances plot, I'd be fine. And I'm someone who's always really liked the wards, but it's just not feasible in a game of that scale.
10-10-2017, 08:33 AM
Maero

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Originally Posted by gbe931

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Yes and when PS3 was part of the game i recall certain features not being added as to not give PC players the advantage over the console crowd and yet here we are again... lol
10-10-2017, 06:12 PM
Terkhev

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Originally Posted by Lelila38

You should also not be forced to align your work schedule with an ingame patch. There are other ways, for example bring them up at different times on different data centers. Or even better, five everyone the ability to own a house by making it instanced or add more wards.
And before any of you jump at me and call me salty: yes I'm EU, no I'm not going for a Shirogane house, I'm not moving from Mist.

In this single case they add new housing zone. In every other people would cry that they lose playtime because of patch in prime time. Doing updates when most people don't play the game is normal.