MP bars on classes that don't use MP

With the changes in SB getting our job gauges on War/Nin/Drg/Sam/Mnk why do they still have MP? I know it's in the base UI of any job it's just jarring as to why they're still there I keep wanting to put my melee gauges over my MP bar only to find out that it glitches out and keeps being transparent.

With the new UI overhaul are we able to eliminate MP bars on jobs that don't use them? It just feels odd keeping MP bars on these classes when they never did/did use MP (Flash for warriors). I understand why Bard has it due to Foes n what not but I wish there was an option to put my Blood of the Dragon gauge where my MP is or put my GL 3 or Chakra gauge because I don't need MP.

Tldr; What I'm asking is SE, can we have the option to remove MP bars on jobs that don't need it in favor of the gauges to be put there.

I know. It's awful.

Let's wait and see 4.1, imo.
We already known that seveal UI will be able to separated into individual parts, there's a chance that HP/MP/TP bar will be able to do it too.

It's there to remind you that--no matter how much you want to--that 4 melee DPS party who got Shinryu for Trial Roulette after waiting for 36 minutes will never be able to Mana Shift that derpy healer who has died 5 times before Protostar.

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Originally Posted by Kallistra

It's there to remind you that--no matter how much you want to--that 4 melee DPS party who got Shinryu for Trial Roulette after waiting for 36 minutes will never be able to Mana Shift that derpy healer who has died 5 times before Protostar.

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Why do you play with my heart like this :( even as a Drk or anything I'd still love to but the game says nope!

Better solution would be to do away with TP/MP bars completely as well. Have every job/class use it's own special resource/resources.

• Dark- Black Blood
• War- Wrath
• PLD- Oath
• Monk- Lightning
• DRG-Blood Of The Dragon
• ETC- ETC

TP was born in a system from offline FF where customization and builds were a thing. This was also applicable in FFXI.

Here it is just a remnant of a system being gutted over the course of it's life. No sense having shared global resources for a game trying to lock you into One job= One role. If anything, having unique resources would allow the gauges to be more streamlined on a per job basis.

I'd like to see the MP bars used on evey job since MP is usually a staple in fantasy games. But on the other side you have magic jobs that don't use TP, RDM aside; the same could be said about them. Personally I think a skill, possibly role, that uses their MP to boost their damage output or boost defense would be great, something. Or Manashift give them Manashift, lol.

MP and TP need to be incorporated in some way into the job gauges now that we have those.

Definitely I think every job should have at least one ability/skill that ultilises their least used bar, either MP or TP. I mean it could be a cross role action rather than one locked to a particular job, but we have casters that don't use TP anymore since Sprint was reworked (aside from RDM melee actions) and non-casters that barely use MP (except BRD, PLD, DRK).

There is the potential to use these inactive bars in some manner instead of letting them go to waste. An idea is perhaps they could be an action that converts TP to MP or vis versa (depending on role) on a long CD, or maybe be able to spend 50% of the particular bar to reduce any cross role action currently on cd by 25%. I know we already have Invigorate, Lucid Dreaming, Mana Shift etc it's just a few ideas, I suppose there are tons of possibilities though.

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Originally Posted by Sandpark

Better solution would be to do away with TP/MP bars completely as well. Have every job/class use it's own special resource/resources.

Here it is just a remnant of a system being gutted over the course of it's life.

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I like your thinking and I want this for next expansion /5.0. That's much better, reducing the amount of bars to track. Almost none of the jobs do anything interesting with mp/tp and are just balanced so you don't run dry, with refresh skills added on to help with that but it's not an interesting mechanic just hitting the button when it's needed. Also rip ether pots.

WTB> Osmose and taking party members' MP that don't use it.

In before trolling from classes with this skill.

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Originally Posted by Cyreil

MP and TP need to be incorporated in some way into the job gauges now that we have those.

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Like, expend 500 TP to build 50 Beast Gauge? I can dig it.

You leave my dragoons mp alone....I'm saving it to cast that secret dragon summoning spell. =P

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Originally Posted by Cyreil

MP and TP need to be incorporated in some way into the job gauges now that we have those.

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I do agree, like look at death knight of wow, that had an interesting system in having you balance rune gains and your energy bar.