Probably already made but i've always wondered what will be done to old content?
Example: Void Ark, Crystal Tower. I know it's very old and it would take 2 days or more to get in one but those dungeons are fun and would be still be fun to run them with the 2 new classes. I also want to mention the gear for glamour, etc.
What will Happen to old 24 raid content?
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09-27-2017, 12:52 PMTheOneSenaWhat will Happen to old 24 raid content?
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09-27-2017, 01:05 PMdragonseth07We are getting a roulette for them in like a week.Quote:
Originally Posted by TheOneSena
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09-27-2017, 01:06 PMSuki-
Roulette or not... something that needs to be done is making the minions on the last 2 a fixed drop rate like all the others.
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09-27-2017, 11:28 PMAmetrine
Raid roulette is DESPERATELY overdue, so I'm glad to hear that's coming. I miss the Crystal Tower raids.
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09-28-2017, 12:06 AMdragonseth07I'm excited to see new players do Bone Dragon and Angry Mango. The fights so easy my dead Grandma can do them, and yet the people raiding this thing still manage to wipe to it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ametrine
And by excited, I mean I've started drinking already just thinking about it. -
09-28-2017, 12:19 AMTagihi
im pretty sure they said something about with weekly loot roulette and iquess the reward by doing it will have items upgrade those 330 armors!
Not sure if new 24 raid content will have it, beacuse then noone will do old once if there is no reward for it... -
09-28-2017, 12:49 AMFoxyArekuUpgrade items will be on the new raid only like always, at least I hope so. 24 man roulette should be optional for tomestones and maybe clusters, nothing else, if there's upgrade items on it then it'll feel mandatory for those who want to gear up alts that aren't doing savage and not all of us like the 24 mans. I hate them myself.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tagihi
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09-28-2017, 12:58 AMAmenian
I got into a Labyrinth of the Ancients last week in just under 2 hours as a bard. Would be brilliant nice if something were implemented to get more queueing for it to bring that time down. I can only play so much Civ VI while I wait!
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09-28-2017, 01:04 AMValkyrie_LennethQuote:
Originally Posted by FoxyAreku
So don't do them? Many people like the 24 man raids. Besides, isn't the more options the better? People want horizontal progression. -
09-28-2017, 02:20 AMLambdafish
I just hope that the ivalice raid isn't in the 24 man roulette, otherwise that will be all that people get.
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09-28-2017, 02:37 AMMycow8me
The same thing that happens to everything else, it becomes the true endgame... Glamour.
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09-28-2017, 04:35 AMIlanYeah they are so easy...how about you go in there with a random group with a ilvl that is from that time and ofc without the nerfs? Yes your gear gets synced down but its still way to high scaled to get a objective sight of the actual difficultyQuote:
Originally Posted by dragonseth07
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09-28-2017, 05:16 AMRansomMost likely, it'll be just the realm reborn/heavensward raids in the roulette at first. The 1st stormblood raid will then get added to roulette when 4.3 2nd stormblood raid is released and so forth.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lambdafish
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09-28-2017, 07:58 AMdragonseth07I don't really see how that's relevant to my joke about modern players who can't even handle a look-away mechanic.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ilan
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09-28-2017, 09:15 AMSolemn
Hopefully, people will actually start ~doing~ that content, so that players like me who've been here for the better part of a year now can finally experience it without having to rely on a generous static that most don't have access to.
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09-28-2017, 11:45 AMLambdafishEven that worries me, if stormblood is anything like heavensward then the first raid will be still required to be run in order to gain upgrade materialsQuote:
Originally Posted by Ransom
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09-28-2017, 12:20 PMmagnanimousCynicIf that person isn't progressing in Savage then why should they think that the Creation gear Upgrades are "mandatory"?Quote:
Originally Posted by FoxyAreku
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09-28-2017, 06:12 PMVahlnirWhile I wouldn't call it mandatory, as someone who doesn't do Savage (and won't do Ultimate either), it's a form of progression for myself. No one would be making me do the content that gives those items, but I'd feel obligated. It helps that I want the full dyeable Lost Allagan set for glamour purposes.Quote:
Originally Posted by magnanimousCynic
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10-02-2017, 08:18 AMSyfurionShudders at the thought of roulette Ozma.Quote:
Originally Posted by dragonseth07
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10-02-2017, 09:00 AMAster_EI find myself tempted to find a link to a clip from the recent "Mad Max" where that guy exclaims what a lovely day it is. >:3Quote:
Originally Posted by Syfurion
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10-02-2017, 10:46 AMFoxyArekuIf they offer upgrade items. 'Just don't do them' is not an option for raiders.Quote:
Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth
They won't though, so it's a moot point. Even if they did they'd be removed before the next tier comes out because that would be silly.
Literally exactly the point. They won't make raiders do this old trash content.Quote:
Originally Posted by magnanimousCynic
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10-02-2017, 11:14 AMSeoulstarThe thought of that excites me to be honest.Quote:
Originally Posted by Syfurion
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10-02-2017, 12:17 PMValkyrie_LennethWell, if you are a raider, you get upgrade items from raiding. They have always added the upgrade items to the 24 mans, its a catch up patch. If you are wanting to upgrade, raid or do the 24 mans or hunt. otherwise, stay at i330.Quote:
Originally Posted by FoxyAreku
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10-02-2017, 02:19 PMKhalitharWhat exactly is the difference between that now and running it with pugs when it came out?Quote:
Originally Posted by Syfurion
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10-02-2017, 08:26 PMAirgetPatience level on top of amount of new players that may be doing that content. When it comes to Ozma, it wasn't tough at first, only midway through because you started to get less skilled players doing it with more impatient players joining in.Quote:
Originally Posted by Khalithar
With the roulette odds are those who will be using it mostly are new players attempting to get content done that have 0 experience with the content on top of possibly 0 experience with their job. That's a huge different from what first happened.
It does get to a point where SE should seriously consider adding in a training room so that Mentor's can invite newer players to help showcase and explain abiliies it would help a lot since it can come off as very hostile if you are in a dungeon and notice a DPS isn't using their AOE when they should be using it.
Having to explain it is already a DPS loss to yourself but then it's made worse if you simplify it.
You could say "In a situation like this where that are at least 4+ mobs it's more efficient to spam your AOE since you will be dealing more DPS as a whole compared to your single target combo" or trying to say "Use your AOE move it does more damage" that's assuming they know the ability which means you have to them look at their job and go "Use Death Blossom it will deal more dmg"
Like the otherday I didn't pay much mind to it til near the end of the dungeon(last boss) but I had started wondering why it felt like the other DPS wasn't keeping up with their damage.
So I take a look at what they're casting and realize, oh no they are using Fire 3 exclusively without Fire for the instant Fire 3 proc, but the dungeon was near completion so there wasn't really any time to explain the nuances of the job to the player to help them play better.
Honestly with making cross-world play easier, SE really should consider creating instances that allows the Leader to setup dummies to showcase abilities and give players a gauge over the range of each ability as well as the potency of said abilities when used.
I personally wouldn't mind helping fellow players if they introduced a location that made it easy to showcase abilities. -
10-02-2017, 11:24 PMSylvina
I look forward to finally being able to get clears on the crystal tower raids. Haven't been able to even get into them yet.