Patch Info and Pics

Some info and screenshots, also not to bring back the Dancer debate but notice the one art piece with Lyse and a blade that almost seems aligned with her hand. We know SE said no new job so... yeah, lol
* I am not saying it is Dancer so shush those of you who may start to argue...

https://www.dualshockers.com/final-f...1-screenshots/

The new dungeon and raid looks nice

I would love to play a battle style healer (dancer)... dps/healer with a real dps rotation healing near by group members as I lay down the damage...

Battle Healer with 3 different rotations.

• Single target dps with amazing damage that uses stacks to land potent single target mitigation heals when needed.

• AOE dps that uses stacks to provide a decent mitigation shield in a large AOE field

• Healer dps rotation that heals any party member with the lowest HP first automatically.

Of course i would still like a healer tool kit but with having the above it would only need to be a minimum tool kit with special skills that utilizes the stacks.

Not tryng to be pessimistic or a jerk, but that gear set looks kind of culinarianish.

Where is the Tactics style knight armors? Dat Garamsythe Waterway almost makes me wanna raid for once.

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Originally Posted by Sandpark

Not tryng to be pessimistic or a jerk, but that gear set looks kind of culinarianish.

Where is the Tactics style knight armors?

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The Roe definitely looks like a chef. I wasn't too thrilled with this particular contest entry anyway and the male variants don't really excite me, though they didn't show the better ones on a big enough frame to get a good idea of how they look. I'm excited for the Caster version when it appears in-game.

Hopefully we get Tactics armour for the actual raid as these are from the dungeon IIRC (the pictures were already available on the patch website via Lodestone, with slightly more context).

I'm with sandpark. The gear looks horrible

I'm a bit bothered by that one artwork picture at the bottom. Is this already some kind of forshadowing what is about to happen in the storyline later on and Garlemald is pulling the "Well, if we can't have control over it, then no one else will" - card?

Yay yet another whole area/region designated to an instance "raid" that will be left in the dust as forgotten content.

Yep, that healer design contest winner looks just about as awful as I imagined it would.

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Originally Posted by ShalindraCelesti

I'm a bit bothered by that one artwork picture at the bottom. Is this already some kind of forshadowing what is about to happen in the storyline later on and Garlemald is pulling the "Well, if we can't have control over it, then no one else will" - card?

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I think that's Rabanastre, not Ala Mhigo.

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Originally Posted by bass9020

Yay yet another whole area/region designated to an instance "raid" that will be left in the dust as forgotten content.

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You'll be able to go into it undersized when 5.0 hits. And you'll need to go into it when 4.3 hits to get the 4.2-4.3 upgrade tokens.

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Originally Posted by ErryK

You'll be able to go into it undersized when 5.0 hits. And you'll need to go into it when 4.3 hits to get the 4.2-4.3 upgrade tokens.

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That doesn't help that its designed as an instance dungeon/raid, its nothing like being a city state with outside areas. I think its awesome we are getting it though don't get me wrong but its a shame yet another whole region like place is getting cut to fit the normal hallway like raids we have gotten in the past. Exploring it as an undersized group doesn't make it feel any better.

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Originally Posted by Sandpark

Not tryng to be pessimistic or a jerk, but that gear set looks kind of culinarianish.

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I had the exact same thought upon seeing it. It looks absolutely horrible as well; literally everything about it is terrible, so either they implemented the design contest winner gear poorly... or the design was that bad to start with.

Bright side is: I won't have to farm the dungeon to get glamours... yet again. Only place in SB I've wanted gear from so far is the level 69 dungeon.

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Originally Posted by Azper

Yep, that healer design contest winner looks just about as awful as I imagined it would.

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The healer one looks fine, IMO. The biggest problem is SE's designs for the rest of them. They were handed a piece of paper with a miniskirt on it, and their interpretation of it for other classes has the god-awful butt curtains they put on everything for 5 out of 6. They need to find the person on their gear design team with a trenchcoat fetish and terminate them immediately.

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Originally Posted by AstralKaos

I had the exact same thought upon seeing it. It looks absolutely horrible as well; literally everything about it is terrible, so either they implemented the design contest winner gear poorly... or the design was that bad to start with.

Bright side is: I won't have to farm the dungeon to get glamours... yet again. Only place in SB I've wanted gear from so far is the level 69 dungeon.

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The design was bad to begin with.
https://img.finalfantasyxiv.com/t/2e...948f8ab_11.jpg
It's a shame someone put effort into it only for it to be hated by most players and doomed to glammed over immediately... but man it's ugly.

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Originally Posted by Tsumdere

The design was bad to begin with.
https://img.finalfantasyxiv.com/t/2e...948f8ab_11.jpg
It's a shame someone put effort into it only for it to be hated by most players and doomed to glammed over immediately... but man it's ugly.

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This artwork looks cute to me.

Unfortunately SE Fails to properly put artwork in 3d and make it look good 90% of the time

All I'm gonna say is... *starts beat*

Turtleneck and chains

Well that gear is hideous. Just another gear set to get an immediately glamour it away.

I hope they don't F up the necromancer gear that won the Caster contest.

I think the gear is cute on certain shapes, I'm just unconvinced it will be cute on bigger characters where the skirts/butt capes drown all of the detail out and clip through mounts in horrifying ways. But I always thought it would be a tough design to adapt for less cute characters. The caster contest set is where all of my fashion hopes lie.

(Are those little goggles for one of the sets? Can they be visored?)

I just got done playing the ff12 remaster a few weeks ago, will be cool to see 14's rendition of Rabanastre, and what looks like the Garamsythe Waterway. The gear doesn't look too bad, I'm not big on glamour, but I don't see the correlation. Is it from Tactics? One of the few ff games I haven't played.

Terrible gear designs...as great as ffxiv is the gear design has been getting worse over the years. There's no originality to them. Everything has to be lazy coat or robe, and those shoes...
Also would love to see the instance raid area as an actual zone we could visit outside the raid..if it's there already let us visit

The one really positive thing is they finally drew a female roegadyn, thank you for listening for appreciating all of your races again :D

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Originally Posted by bass9020

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That's true, but better to have it and be limited, than to not have it at all.

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Originally Posted by ErryK

That's true, but better to have it and be limited, than to not have it at all.

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Very true! The screenshots look great as well, when I saw them I was instantly excited so I can't wait to see whats in store. I usually stay behind when finishing an instance anyway so I will try to explore and take in what I can during that time! :)

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Originally Posted by bass9020

That doesn't help that its designed as an instance dungeon/raid, its nothing like being a city state with outside areas. I think its awesome we are getting it though don't get me wrong but its a shame yet another whole region like place is getting cut to fit the normal hallway like raids we have gotten in the past. Exploring it as an undersized group doesn't make it feel any better.

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When the info first leaked I read it as being an actual explorable city complete with a sewer system. I don't like raiding in general due to drama forming and keeping parties together. Maybe, I hope this ends up good enough to make me wanna do the raid.

I was imagining earlier that if they were going to implement Dancer, it would be nice to make it as a second job after Pugilist (like they did with Arcanist) so we will have Dancer and Monk that come from Pugilist, since they're both so similar. Monk being the melee DPS and Dancer being the melee healer.

Personally I like the new dungeon gear, I think both the concept art and the execution are fantastic. The Drowned City of Skalla is pretty cool to see as well, back when I first saw the sunken ruins in the Lochs I wondered what it really was, sunken ruins of a war-torn Ala Mhigo or something else? Rabanastre is cool, but I'm way more excited for the story surrounding it. Hoping future 24-man raid content feature a location from FFT, such as Orbonne Monastery or Limberry Castle.

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Originally Posted by bass9020

Very true! The screenshots look great as well, when I saw them I was instantly excited so I can't wait to see whats in store. I usually stay behind when finishing an instance anyway so I will try to explore and take in what I can during that time! :)

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I'll probably end up taking loads of screenshots with /gpose after finishing the instance.

The gear is hideous, and it will horribly clip with almost every single hairstyle besides extremely short boyish/tomboyish hair.

I liked the art of the winner set but the implementation is not that great. It still looks fine with the healer but the other versions are just horrible imo. If the black one (why was it necessary to give one job a black one?) is the caster version than at least this means that I wont have to farm the dungeon for gear..which means another one time only dungeon..

Also kinda waiting when we will get the new and exiting content, which was the reason we lost a dungeon. Super savage is nice for the raiders but I truly hoped that this means that we will get the new content in the patch that is missing a dungeon and not somewhere in the future. :/

So 24man raid gear is inspired by the healer winner... feels like SE is getting real lazy here. I expected contest winner to be crafted gear instead of the WoD bis, or tomestone at the least... SE could have just said that they're taking a 2 year break when releasing Stormblood, it would have been the same. No work for the 2 first savage fight, no work on gear, no work at all for ex primals to feel like ex primals, and 1 dungeon less for nothing more...

SE already said (sadly) that they will never release classes outside expansions, so as much as I want to see a Dancer (melee healer please) in patch 4.3/4.4, I dont think it will happen.

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Originally Posted by Arutan

So 24man raid gear is inspired by the healer winner... feels like SE is getting real lazy here. I expected contest winner to be crafted gear instead of the WoD bis, or tomestone at the least....

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I'm pretty sure that's the dungeon gear, not the raid gear.

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Originally Posted by Maero

Some info and screenshots, also not to bring back the Dancer debate but notice the one art piece with Lyse and a blade that almost seems aligned with her hand. We know SE said no new job so... yeah, lol
* I am not saying it is Dancer so shush those of you who may start to argue...

https://www.dualshockers.com/final-f...1-screenshots/

The new dungeon and raid looks nice

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We already know she uses that weapon as a monk, not a dancer. She used that multiple times during the storyline, so there's no point in grasping for straws when the evidence was already presented to be not dancer.

Here's hoping Balmung lasts at least 35 minutes on housing in Shirogane. I like the look of the houses, but will wait and see on the raid before I start naysaying on 'devs taking a break'.

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Originally Posted by mikanana

I was imagining earlier that if they were going to implement Dancer, it would be nice to make it as a second job after Pugilist (like they did with Arcanist) so we will have Dancer and Monk that come from Pugilist, since they're both so similar. Monk being the melee DPS and Dancer being the melee healer.

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Unless I'm misstaken, I believe the developers have gone on record saying they're never gonna repeat what they did with Arcanist (2 jobs branching off from one class), if only because it's a absolute nightmare to balance thanks to the skill overlap between the roles.

In all likelyhood, they'll be maintaining the current model that any new jobs introduced will be independant from a Class, and start at a specific level, instead of 1 (as a means of allowing people to catch up faster)

I like the sets. And it seems I'm the only one.

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Originally Posted by SinisterJoints

I'm with sandpark. The gear looks horrible

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If gear was paint, these would be the undercoat - serves a purpose but no cosmetic attraction whatsoever.

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Originally Posted by Lazaruz

Unless I'm misstaken, I believe the developers have gone on record saying they're never gonna repeat what they did with Arcanist (2 jobs branching off from one class), if only because it's a absolute nightmare to balance thanks to the skill overlap between the roles.

In all likelyhood, they'll be maintaining the current model that any new jobs introduced will be independant from a Class, and start at a specific level, instead of 1 (as a means of allowing people to catch up faster)

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Shame, because I really like the idea of starting dancer at lvl 30, oh well

You can't please everyone.

Literally every time we see a preview of new gear people come in to say that they dislike it. That's fine - but people aren't going to like every piece of gear in the game. Tastes differ. There's also a good chance that even if you dislike certain parts of a set others can be combined elsewhere to create a look that works for those speaking out against the set in question.

It baffles me that more people don't look at things that way.

The gear shown seems to be , or looks to be for the new dungeon and not for 24 man raid. Which I'm ok with it

I don't mind the healer design on paper, but the in game model doesn't look like it should imo... it drives me bonkers how the in game model jacket flares out at the hip, when the artwork looks like it's supposed to like "bubble" at the hip, if that makes sense? Like, be tighter? I dunno, I'm not very impressed. Makes me sad.

Yup, the healer hat (from this angle) looks as awkward as I thought it would for any race that doesn't have their ears growing out the top of their head.

Still worried about how different its going to look/fit on males.

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Originally Posted by Xlantaa

I like the sets. And it seems I'm the only one.

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Dont worry you're not alone, I like them as well.