Dragoon Wyvern

Not sure if this has been posted before or not, But in FFXI Dragoon was able to get a pet wyvern. That Depending on your sub class would use different breath attacks, I think this made Dragoon more versatile in game and more enjoyable to play. why we lost our Wyvern I'm not sure but would love to see it returned, Anyone else feel the same way just curious what others think about this idea.

Dragoon here are more dragon killers machine no sence to be friend with one and have it around always

In FINAL FANTASY XI, a dragoon's pet wyvern accounted for too much of that player's overall damage output, and the wyvern itself was very flimsy. That's where the "loldrg" joke came from. Even today, there's no demand for dragoons in that game for endgame content. Sure, it's better than it used to be, but it's still pretty meh.

In FINAL FANTASY XIV, there's a wind-up dragonet minion you can get from the moogle quests that looks the same, but is a minion rather than a pet. That's as close as you're going to get.

There's also the differences in lore. Dragoons in Vana'diel were also known as dragon knights, and they would fight alongside their wyverns after sharing a bond. Dragoons in Eorzea are, as has been mentioned, dragon slayers who'd sooner take their own lives than ever bond with a dragon.

While the dragoons of XIV started off as dragon slayers, that role has become largely obsolete now that the Dragonsong War is over and some like Estinien and Heustienne now act to preserve the peace between man and dragonkind.

The 60-70 DRG quests entertain the idea of dragons bonding with and fighting alongside knights as they did in the pre-Dragonsong War days, so I could see it happening, though not as a permanent pet and rather a temporary thing like Bahamut-egi.

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Originally Posted by Dragonsin

why we lost our Wyvern I'm not sure but would love to see it returned

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It wasn't lost, it wasn't there in the first place. It's not like Dragoon is required to have a wyvern pet anyway.

Also, they'll have to reduce potencies of almost everything Dragoon has to accommodate the wyvern and will lower the amount of damage the job makes at lower levels which I wouldn't like. If they created the job with the wyvern in mind already, it would've been done fine.

If it were to happen, I just hope it works like MCH turrets (that actually follow you) instead of SMN/SCH pets.

Let's please not have a pet for Dragoons, the pet AI in this game is retarded.

Signed: Part time Scholar.

Did DRG have a pet wyvern in any other FF game? Just because FFXI did it doesn't necessarily make it the law of the land.

Would have been cool if the animation for nastrod was a wyvren fly over with a breath attack, instead of a reskinned gks. But no as a pet. Pets in this game are garbage, and they would have to nerf drg further to account for the increased dmg. Plus we would have to try and weave the pet actions into an already off-gcd heavy rotation and worry about pet position as well as our own. Drg would be a mess.

This reminds me of the first debate I saw on this years ago, as to if DRG should have the Wyvern pet or not. Most of what was in it, I don't remember, but there was one thing that stuck out. Someone actually bothered to make this and it amused me, despite it's simplicity.

http://zantetsuken.net/wp-content/up...ern-wyvern.jpg

Anyway, I like the idea of DRGs having a pet, and I did like having the Wyvern in XI, but remembering how it worked in practice at endgame, I wouldn't support it. I kept hoping for a little FFXI Wyvern minion, myself.

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Originally Posted by Spiriel_Basanda

I kept hoping for a little FFXI Wyvern minion, myself.

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The wind-up Dragonet is almost identical to the XI Wyvern and probably as close as you're going to get to having it in XIV.

Lol heck no don't give us that damn wyvern just take a look at how badly SMN pets react and die....I don't wanna have to deal with that crap for dps :/

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Originally Posted by ElHeggunte

The wind-up Dragonet is almost identical to the XI Wyvern and probably as close as you're going to get to having it in XIV.

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Oh hey, looking at it, you're not wrong. I'm going to have to go pick that one up. Thanks for the tip!

I loved the pet in wyvern in XI, and would love to see it return. But the AI would be a big issue, maybe they could make it unable to take damage.
But im not holding my breathe on a pet, i think a rare unlockable wyvern companion/mount combo that only drg can get would be a awesome. And you can name it and change its colour.

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Originally Posted by Velox

Did DRG have a pet wyvern in any other FF game? Just because FFXI did it doesn't necessarily make it the law of the land.

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Ricard from FFII (also known as the first Dragoon in the series) was also what they took the wyvern/dragoon bond inspiration for FFXI from. This happens between the last dragoon, Ricard Highwind, and the last wyvern after it hatches. The wyvern also acts as a key item that casts Blaze 7 in battle.
This is the ONLY time it's ever occurred outside FFXI. While the 60-70 quests in XIV might be considered an homage, I doubt it'll be taken further, and another game will have to revisit that tribute in the future.

I thought the dragoon wyvern was a 2 hour CD? even then, i dont remember it being anymore useful than looking cool... seemed like the breath attack would only proc infrequently. i went DRK/SAM and never looked back.

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Originally Posted by HarassMe

I thought the dragoon wyvern was a 2 hour CD? even then, i dont remember it being anymore useful than looking cool... seemed like the breath attack would only proc infrequently. i went DRK/SAM and never looked back.

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That was back when it was old school... Personally I loved having a wyvern and only died really do to poor use of skills or mayor battles of wide aoe constant damage. Other wise I use to love doing DRG / SAM . I would love to see DRG getting a companion at least for outside and normal dungeons.

It was the 2 hour ability ages ago, but it stayed until you or it died. It got changed from the 2 hour CD to a 20 minute one after SE figured out how important it was as well as how fragile it was, the 2 hour CD becoming Spirit Surge.

The breath attacks for offensive wyverns would happen every time you used a WS, and later on they gave DRGs the ability to force the wyverns to use their breaths by other abilities entirely. These days, they breath quite often, as gear haste is capped easily and you can stack a lot of multi-hit and store TP. so DRGs typically get enough TP to use a WS every 4-7 auto attack rounds, depending on how much RNG favored them.

As for how useful they were, they were quite useful. The wyvern's healing breath is how many DRGs solo'd when they couldn't find a party. Like, it wasn't possible without it. Admittedly, I'm unsure what the relative strength of the damage breaths were/are, so I won't claim the offensive elemental breaths are great, but that healing one was awesome.

I had once entertained the idea that Blood of the Dragon would grant you an extra auto-attack to kind of mimic the idea of this Wyvern that everyone seems so hung up on, but actually having one would go against the lore of the job established in universe.

Keep that Pet idea away from my main job! =)

haha keep that Pet idea close to my dragoon

we need more pet Jobs

apply ai that the npc have in mainline quest I think they improve the AI. they attack when you attack and follow when you go somewhere

Level 70

True Dragon Dive:
Drink the blood of an ancient dragon and transforms into a dragon which soars in the sky for one big weaponskill AOE.

Don't like the current pet implementation here so don't want the pet.

OP's first mistake was comparing FFXI to FFXIV.

No, seriously, that's actually a pretty big mistake. Other than the fact each Final Fantasy is a self-contained world with different rules to one another, FFXI and FFXIV are very different games.

FFXI was geared toward more experienced and grindy players who were willing to to suffer through any jerk moves the Devs threw at them.

FFXIV is geared toward a more casual audience by providing a simple to learn, difficult to master gameplay with difficult endgame content.

plus the fragility of the Wyvern caused the original round of loldrg jokes as someone pointed out.

https://i.imgur.com/6Cu6TA6.png

one can dream, but it will probably never happen. There's plenty of ways they could circumvent the few problems it had, one of them could have been simply make the pet invincible and disappear when its master dies (any enmity it generates would be given to you instead). Another way is that it could only appear for certain attacks. There's other ways but I don't think its worth trying.

We'd have better luck seeing a wyvern companion but that's been brought up many times already which there have been no dev responses that I'm aware of.

they may be keep it mind one seen wyvern companion for all players not just dragoon. we see system where you summon wyvern companion like that of chocobo companion though I do hope for beastmaster.

the more it brought up the more devs are made aware that players want it.

the A I have had a lot improvement we see how well the adventure squadron is done.

we could see a wyrven companion when they do away with class and replace it with jobs