Kugane Castle - Yojimbo

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09-08-2017, 09:22 AM
Dragonhand

Kugane Castle - Yojimbo

This Aeon was one of my fav on ffx, no wonder I was exited to fight it on Kugane Castle but boy oh boy... was I disappointed...
To be honest... it's easy. The fight is absurdly easy... I expected something so epic from a former summon. The concept of the fight is not bad it's just the special mechanic is near useless, and there are so few mechanics that the fight becomes a simple tank and spank. We always pick the coins on the floor, leaving 1 or 2 for the dog at best... After doing it in daily roulette it became worst... no coin left...
Please make the fight harder.

Also I want to fight him as a Trial latter... :( plix plox?!
09-08-2017, 09:27 AM
Lucke

That guy didn't pay him enough to kill us, we stole the money meant for Jim. He even mentions to the Roe, "you'll only get what you pay for." or some such. So yeah. Jim could easily kill us, but wasn't paid to.
09-08-2017, 09:27 AM
RitsukoSonoda

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Originally Posted by Dragonhand

This Aeon was one of my fav on ffx, no wonder I was exited to fight it on Kugane Castle but boy oh boy... was I disappointed...
To be honest... it's easy. The fight is absurdly easy... I expected something so epic from a former summon. The concept of the fight is not bad it's just the special mechanic is near useless, and there are so few mechanics that the fight becomes a simple tank and spank. We always pick the coins on the floor, leaving 1 or 2 for the dog at best... After doing it in daily roulette it became worst... no coin left...
Please make the fight harder.

Also I want to fight him as a Trial latter... :( plix plox?!

Yojimbo was a summon that did damage based on the amount you paid him. So maybe he'll show up as an ex trial later when someone can pay him a whole lot more than that guy in kugane... I mean literally it was just small piles of gold. Most players are probably richer than that guy ;P
09-08-2017, 10:32 AM
Big_Panda

In the future patches, they can easily introduce a sidequest where the guy escapes from jail and swears vengeance on us.

This time, he spends a huge fortune and pays Yojimbo upfront so the swordsman agrees to kill us on sight.
09-09-2017, 02:12 AM
Maero

Or perhaps he will be added to the 24 man raid
09-09-2017, 02:14 AM
RoseBnargin

Can you even get killed if you're not collecting any money?
09-09-2017, 02:20 AM
Syrus_Draco

I love Yojimbo but it was a big disappointment to see him be a regular dungeon boss and not a Primal Trial. I was looking forward to a really hard EX fight for him, considering how prestige he is coming out of FFX. In the future I hope the devs fashion the story to pull Yojimbo into a Trial, much like how Diablo went from a dungeon boss to a 24man raid boss.
09-11-2017, 10:13 AM
Big_Panda

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Originally Posted by RoseBnargin

Can you even get killed if you're not collecting any money?

Some team tried and apparently you lose 15k hp at most.
09-11-2017, 11:38 AM
Jonnycbad

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Originally Posted by Big_Panda

In the future patches, they can easily introduce a sidequest where the guy escapes from jail and swears vengeance on us.

This time, he spends a huge fortune and pays Yojimbo upfront so the swordsman agrees to kill us on sight.

No, with Yojimbo, you pay him per attack.
09-11-2017, 04:29 PM
KarstenS

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Originally Posted by RitsukoSonoda

Yojimbo was a summon that did damage based on the amount you paid him.

No. The amount of money had nothing to do with the damage he did. It just had some influence on the RNG.

There was just one reason to pay him more than one Gil in FFX: You wanted to increase the chance to get Zanmatou.
09-11-2017, 10:13 PM
ManuelBravo

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Originally Posted by Syrus_Draco

I love Yojimbo but it was a big disappointment to see him be a regular dungeon boss and not a Primal Trial. I was looking forward to a really hard EX fight for him, considering how prestige he is coming out of FFX. In the future I hope the devs fashion the story to pull Yojimbo into a Trial, much like how Diablo went from a dungeon boss to a 24man raid boss.

SE can be a bit tricky, maybe down the line they might. ( SE I really hope you do )
09-13-2017, 07:18 AM
uvuvwevwevweonyetenyevweugwemu

I can see it. Yojimbo Extreme. The guy steals 1M gils from each party member to pay Yojimbo. If you don't have, instant death. xD
09-13-2017, 11:56 AM
Lambdafish

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Originally Posted by Syrus_Draco

I love Yojimbo but it was a big disappointment to see him be a regular dungeon boss and not a Primal Trial.

Siren, Diabolos and Fenrir (and I guess Tonberry king?) were all relegated before Yojimbo. The trend seems to have been that other than the staples (Ifrit, Shiva, Ramuh etc.), the EX trials have a theme unrelated to classic summons (hell, four classic summons are raid bosses, not EX trials). I would expect to see the more obscure and niche summons (such as Quezecotl, Brothers, Kujata, Hades, Anima, Magus Sisters) relegated to dungeons.

If Yojimbo proves popular however, SE has shown the potential for him to return through the use of Diabolos in Dun Scaith
09-13-2017, 01:25 PM
Dualgunner

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Originally Posted by KarstenS

No. The amount of money had nothing to do with the damage he did. It just had some influence on the RNG.

There was just one reason to pay him more than one Gil in FFX: You wanted to increase the chance to get Zanmatou.

There was also a hidden trust counter of some sort; if you weren't cheap and didn't get Yojimbo killed a bunch, the rng adjusts so you don't have to pay him much for a guaranteed Zanmatou.
09-14-2017, 01:09 AM
Syrus_Draco

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Originally Posted by Lambdafish

If Yojimbo proves popular however, SE has shown the potential for him to return through the use of Diabolos in Dun Scaith

The thing is, Yojimbo fits perfectly with SB's aesthetic and over all direction. He is a perfect candidate to be a staring Primal.

Also the "niche" summons thing doesn't really hold true. Bismark and Lakshmi could be seen as niche, as their appearance is scarce throughout the franchise. I'm not sure what discussion the devs have to chose which summons are Trials or not. Given the Eastern theme of SB, summons like Yojimbo, Kujata, Asura, they all seem to fit the bill perfectly
09-22-2017, 06:09 PM
KarstenS

Another thing: When we collect the Gil during this fight, shouldn't we get Gil?
09-22-2017, 06:19 PM
Lambdafish

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Originally Posted by Syrus_Draco

Also the "niche" summons thing doesn't really hold true. Bismark and Lakshmi could be seen as niche, as their appearance is scarce throughout the franchise.

A strange amendment that I would make would be that that anomaly to the pattern has so far consisted of an Esper from FFVI (because SE has a hard-on for that game) appearing in the X.0 patch alongside an XIV exclusive primal. Other than this noticeable pattern, everything I said holds true.
10-06-2017, 11:52 PM
Jojozan

If memory serves, the Roe in the back only manages to scrape together 500,000 gil for the second payment if you read his speech bubbles. Considering I have shown up for that fight with more on me....

Yeah, the guy was unusually cheap.
10-07-2017, 05:22 AM
Megido

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Originally Posted by Jojozan

If memory serves, the Roe in the back only manages to scrape together 500,000 gil for the second payment if you read his speech bubbles. Considering I have shown up for that fight with more on me....

Yeah, the guy was unusually cheap.

We should be able to pay 500,001 gil to skip the fight.
10-07-2017, 07:30 PM
Frizze

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Originally Posted by Megido

We should be able to pay 500,001 gil to skip the fight.

Im cheap too. Id rather beat him up and save my money. Or maybe hide all my cash on my retainers so i cant contribute if the group decides it wants to save 3 mins.
10-08-2017, 10:35 AM
Aster_E

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Originally Posted by Lambdafish

A strange amendment that I would make would be that that anomaly to the pattern has so far consisted of an Esper from FFVI (because SE has a hard-on for that game) appearing in the X.0 patch alongside an XIV exclusive primal. Other than this noticeable pattern, everything I said holds true.

Even Ravana and Susano-o, who appeared in Vagrant Story and Bravely Default respectively? (Though, I suppose the latter was also in SaGa II/FF Legends II)