Drops of gear for finishing dungeons in SB

So with how they added the system that you get gear/accessories for finishing the dungeon...I'm curious why this didn't include weapons?

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Originally Posted by UnstablePersonality

So with how they added the system that you get gear/accessories for finishing the dungeon...I'm curious why this didn't include weapons?

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It does tho the weapons are just rarer

you dont get weapons

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Originally Posted by UnstablePersonality

So with how they added the system that you get gear/accessories for finishing the dungeon...I'm curious why this didn't include weapons?

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The thing was, during actual 4.0, I had gotten weapons. You needed every single piece that you could get from that dungeon before you'd get it, but you'd get it guaranteed, too. I got my current RDM weapon doing this method (with a friend that was kind enough to run it with me from 0 piece til guarantee, since it refused to drop from the chest, and to speed queues). I got my WHM cane the same way, as well as previous RDM and WHM weapons where I had the full gear and no drop from a chest. Now I try to get the scholar book the same way (in Castrum Abania, Shisui of the Violet Tides and Doma Castle) and noticed it's not happening anymore.

Considering it's leveling dungeons that only guarantee loot, I sent this in as a bug. Especially knowing your main hand is the most important thing to upgrade, but has always been the hardest to get.

I had my full Shisui Scouting gear and I could not get my blades to drop at all. I had grinded that dungeon and gained 3 levels, and I still have not came across the blades.

It's not just Stormblood. I get a guarantee drop in Heavensward too. The only hitch is that the 70 dungeons don't do that. I had to run Ala Mhigo a few times to get gear when I first got to it. At least I got to play with Zenos a lot and tomes while farming it.

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Originally Posted by JunseiKei

The thing was, during actual 4.0, I had gotten weapons. You needed every single piece that you could get from that dungeon before you'd get it, but you'd get it guaranteed, too. I got my current RDM weapon doing this method (with a friend that was kind enough to run it with me from 0 piece til guarantee, since it refused to drop from the chest, and to speed queues). I got my WHM cane the same way, as well as previous RDM and WHM weapons where I had the full gear and no drop from a chest. Now I try to get the scholar book the same way (in Castrum Abania, Shisui of the Violet Tides and Doma Castle) and noticed it's not happening anymore.

Considering it's leveling dungeons that only guarantee loot, I sent this in as a bug. Especially knowing your main hand is the most important thing to upgrade, but has always been the hardest to get.

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I've never had 1 drop after completing personally, it's reached a point where my bard is 68 and still in the 60 bow cause 1 has never dropped or anything even at 65 when I had the entire set...I'm tempted to just buy an npc 1 but knowing my luck 1 will drop after I do.

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Originally Posted by UnstablePersonality

I've never had 1 drop after completing personally, it's reached a point where my bard is 68 and still in the 60 bow cause 1 has never dropped or anything even at 65 when I had the entire set...I'm tempted to just buy an npc 1 but knowing my luck 1 will drop after I do.

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Like I said, I'm running into that now. I got the weapon guaranteed drops in 4.0, but between when I got my WHM to 70 until a week or two ago when I decided to level SCH, I didn't run any leveling dungeons of any kind. I know for a fact that Stormblood had the guarantee weapon drops, but only in leveling dungeons and only if you have all of the other pieces of gear for that dungeon on that class and had it on you.

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Originally Posted by JunseiKei

I know for a fact that Stormblood had the guarantee weapon drops, but only in leveling dungeons and only if you have all of the other pieces of gear for that dungeon on that class and had it on you.

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SB leveling dungeons never dropped weapon at the end of run guarantee piece.

I know because I thought when I was leveling my first job at launch that I would get weapon after I collected all the other pieces, but never did on any of the jobs I've leveled so far.

I've leveled 8 jobs through SB dungeons with full sets and never got a weapon drop at the end except for if it dropped in the treasure chest. Guaranteed drop? Never, not even while wearing the full set.

I actually just did a Bardam's Mettle on PLD with full nomads set except weapon and it didn't give me anything at the end.

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Originally Posted by Miste

SB leveling dungeons never dropped weapon at the end of run guarantee piece.

I know because I thought when I was leveling my first job at launch that I would get weapon after I collected all the other pieces, but never did on any of the jobs I've leveled so far.

I've leveled 8 jobs through SB dungeons with full sets and never got a weapon drop at the end except for if it dropped in the treasure chest. Guaranteed drop? Never, not even while wearing the full set.

I actually just did a Bardam's Mettle on PLD with full nomads set except weapon and it didn't give me anything at the end.

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I'm not confusing getting the weapon from a chest. Considering at least three different occasions did the dungeon give me the weapon after the final boss was slain. Just like the gear. I am not imaging it, nor am I doubting the events that transpired. I 100% know for a fact it was given. Whether or not it was a bug I benefited from or if it's bugged now is what I question. Also, again, I noticed this was guarantee during 4.0. Not 4.01, 4.05, or 4.06. 4.0. I only noticed the change after 4.06a dropped, as that's when I started to level a third class.

I literally would not have my RDM weapon that I glamour if it never happened. I've still never seen the stupid thing drop in any run I've done. I've only every gotten it placed into my inventory via the guaranteed drop system in place for leveling dungeons.

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Originally Posted by JunseiKei

Uh? I'm not confusing getting the weapon from a chest. Considering at least three different occasions did the dungeon give me the weapon after the final boss was slain. Just like the gear. I am not imaging it, nor am I doubting the events that transpired. I 100% know for a fact it was given.

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You must have confused it. I'm telling you it doesn't give weapon and it never did.

I wanted the entire shisui set on my RDM when I was first leveling it and this was at launch just like you. Not in any higher patch increment. I had full set and had collected some when I leveled my healer so by the 4th run of Shisui I had the full set except weapon cause the chest never dropped it. I was not given a weapon at the end when boss was killed.

This same scenario also happened for BLM which shared all the gear from RDM and I kept it all from leveling RDM. Full set from all leveling dungeons except Abania.

Never got a weapon from Shisui, Bardam, or Doma even though I already had full set immediately upon starting to use those dungeons to level. That's running each one of those 5 times each at least wearing the full set each time and never got the weapon unless it dropped from a chest. I think two out of three of those didn't ever get those weapons because the chest refused to drop it.

Explain?

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Originally Posted by Miste

You must have confused it. I'm telling you it doesn't give weapon and it never did.

Explain?

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Considering the friend that ran with me remembers me running the dungeon multiple times for the weapon shortly after I hit 70 RDM, linking it in dungeon after asking if I got it and confirming that it never dropped via the chest.

Explain? Simple, and the only thing I question: Either I benefited from a bug, or the weapon not dropping is a bug.

i have over 100 dungeons runs of Lv 61-69 dungeons and never gotten a weapon as a direct drop.

Hope they add it in, I really like some of the Castrum Abania weapons but I have never seen the Pally weapon drop despite having the rest of the gear, would be nice, even if it is only if you have the rest of the pieces first.

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Originally Posted by JunseiKei

Considering the friend that ran with me remembers me running the dungeon multiple times for the weapon shortly after I hit 70 RDM, linking it in dungeon after asking if I got it and confirming that it never dropped via the chest.

Explain? Simple, and the only thing I question: Either I benefited from a bug, or the weapon not dropping is a bug.

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Then it was either a bug on your end, or you mis-remembered it. Regardless, weapons have never been guaranteed drops from dungeons. I leveled all three tanks to 70 before any 4.0x patch dropped, and never once did a weapon drop directly to inventory. I only ever saw the DRK 67 sword + WAR 69 axe drop from treasure chests.

Regardless though, It did surprise and confuse me why they excluded the weapons. I can only imagine it was done to keep people potentially grinding in the queues for them to help alleviate queue times. My only guess.

Back on topic, why wasn't weapons included? Or even if it's included, why is it given only after getting everything?

We level past a leveling dungeon so quickly most of us would not be getting a weapon from the guaranteed drops, and that seems counter-productive to the whole idea of the guaranteed drops.

Should the guaranteed drops always drop a weapon first? Isn't that the one single piece that would help out the most, for the vast majority of jobs in a leveling dungeon?

It seems the devs couldn't decide if they really wanted to help, so they exclude the single most important slot.

I submitted the weapon not dropping as guaranteed loot as a bug and it was accepted, for what it's worth. It especially sucks for dungeons like Castrum Abania where you're going to run it like 4-5 times tops if at all.

My only guess as to why it was not included was because weapons in this game are relatively "rare" compared to gear. You can see this in the endgame sequence apart from the basic sets like the AF coffer and ala mihgan sets. Beyond those your only sources are high tier crafting. extreme trials, weekly lockout tomestones, and raids. In HW and ARR level cap, dungeons don't drop weapons except for the very first ones. It makes crafted weapons desirable too because of the relative scarcity. Someone levelling up the first time though, shouldn't have any problems with weapons thanks to the MSQ.

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Originally Posted by Naraku_Diabolos

I had my full Shisui Scouting gear and I could not get my blades to drop at all. I had grinded that dungeon and gained 3 levels, and I still have not came across the blades.

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i300 weapons are exactly the same model and often better recolored.

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Originally Posted by Jeykama

I submitted the weapon not dropping as guaranteed loot as a bug and it was accepted, for what it's worth. It especially sucks for dungeons like Castrum Abania where you're going to run it like 4-5 times tops if at all.

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Then again: http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...uaranteed-Loot

Weapons have never dropped from welfare loot as far as I know and have experienced.