Garlean city

When I see places like Castrum Oriens or other ones with Garlean buildings, I imagine Garlemald as a city near to a present day-like city... something different from other. I would like a to visit a Garlean city one day like Ishgard, Kugane, of the three initial ones. A present day-like city with Garlean buildings, roads... Obviously with the other cities functions like the Retainers, Levequests, Inns, Hunt boards...

Obviously, It will be impossible to do this with Garlemald itself, and if we visit Garlemald in a future, sure It will be just a final dungeon, not a city.

So, this Garlean city would be one builted by Garleans in their style after taking all Ilsabard, but currently free from Garleans by rebel Ilsabardians inspired by the Doman and Ala Mhigan revolutions.

This would be super cool.

Garlean should be like 5.0 or 6.0 if I remember correctly

This is what ppl have said. Garlean "based city - story" will come eventually ... it is a cool idea and something a lot of us do want

I can smell Rabanastre out there too..hmmmmmmmmm *sniffsniff*

Turning cities into dungeons is such a cheap approach, it soured stormblood for me, so I really hope they don't pull that in future expansions.

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Originally Posted by Con_Carne

Obviously, It will be impossible to do this with Garlemald itself, and if we visit Garlemald in a future, sure It will be just a final dungeon, not a city.

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We shouldn't accept this as a fact. Garlemald is too important to be just a dungeon.

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Originally Posted by SendohJin

We shouldn't accept this as a fact. Garlemald is too important to be just a dungeon.

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So was Ala Mhigo, it even had a concept art from before ARR launch like all the other cities. Now for some reason we are gonna spend 3-4 patches fixing up Ala Mhigan politics without being allowed into the city, whatever sense that makes.

I think garlemald itself will be an indoor citadel to protect against the harsh weather. Kinda like an indoor ishgard with magitek stuff everywhere with transporters instead of aetherytes.

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Originally Posted by alimdia

Turning cities into dungeons is such a cheap approach, it soured stormblood for me, so I really hope they don't pull that in future expansions.

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That and the fact that the quarter we were allowed to visit was honestly pretty boring :/
It would have felt less dissapointing if there were more npcs to talk to and more diversity in the streets and actual houses you can enter. The layout there is fun, with all the roofs you can climb, but walking around that place just felt kind of dull. I hope even if they turn a city into a dungeon again, that we can at least explore a more exciting part of it.

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Originally Posted by Rakiria

That and the fact that the quarter we were allowed to visit was honestly pretty boring :/
It would have felt less dissapointing if there were more npcs to talk to and more diversity in the streets and actual houses you can enter. The layout there is fun, with all the roofs you can climb, but walking around that place just felt kind of dull. I hope even if they turn a city into a dungeon again, that we can at least explore a more exciting part of it.

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Honestly, SB zones felt boring in general. Anyway, looking at Ala Mhigo's inside from above, it looked so...unfinished. I do hope it's accessible (and actually interesting-looking) in the upcoming patches but I'm not sure what purpose it'll fulfill aside from story and I'm not really counting on it. Same for Doma, but I have hopes that the enclave gets repaired at least?

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Originally Posted by VargasVermillion

I think garlemald itself will be an indoor citadel to protect against the harsh weather. Kinda like an indoor ishgard with magitek stuff everywhere with transporters instead of aetherytes.

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It could quite easily be inspired by Midgar if that is the case. I'm looking forward to seeing what a Garlean expansion brings us - though I have no interest in seeing the place invaded. It'd be much more satisfying to have a reason to make peace with Garlemald and work with it for the sake of dealing with a greater threat.

As far as Ala Mhigo itself is concerned? That it's a dungeon does not bother me - though there should definitely be the ability to enter it in a future patch. Preferably without the 'solo phasing' so that role-players can interact with one another there.

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Originally Posted by Theodric

It could quite easily be inspired by Midgar if that is the case.

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Given the amount of FF6 references garlean enemy types have given us I wouldn't be surprised if garlemald's capital looked like the empire's capital in FF6.

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Originally Posted by alimdia

Turning cities into dungeons is such a cheap approach, it soured stormblood for me, so I really hope they don't pull that in future expansions.

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Wasn't it just the palace?

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Originally Posted by Felis

Wasn't it just the palace?

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The streets, alleys and avenues before the first boss should be part of the regular city, though given the look and proximity to the palace entrance, it might well be the noble's/merchant quarter.

I like the idea.

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Originally Posted by Felis

Wasn't it just the palace?

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Yes, it is. The rest of Ala Mhigo is on the southeastern part of the map. The dungeon is the palace itself. Personnel would also lodge within the palace walls (advisors, guards, physicians, the ruling house close family members, harem, et cetra).

I have a feeling that garlemald cities will look sort of like midgar in FF7...
And it's citizens are actually affected by stigma... maybe not ;)

I'd rather something similar to Esthar City in FF8:D

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Originally Posted by JunseiKei

Yes, it is. The rest of Ala Mhigo is on the southeastern part of the map. The dungeon is the palace itself. Personnel would also lodge within the palace walls (advisors, guards, physicians, the ruling house close family members, harem, et cetra).

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No, look behind you the next time you enter the dungeon, the entrance is literally the metal gate the alliance broke a hole through, the entire path up to the first boss takes place in the city, then after the first boss you enter the palace.

I imagine Garlemald mostly like a cyberpunk like city rather than a modern city in real world.
Tall metallic buildings with intimidating look. Robots everywhere to serve and fix/build things.
Everywhere smoke and pillars of cerulium smoke everywhere. No temples of any kind anywhere as Garleans forbid any form of religion.
You will see a lot of workshops though. Small and big. They live a military life. Their society is structured just like the army ranks.
I expect to see monuments of emperors/generals or past great scientists in the streets though. Perhaps some museums of Magitek history.
Dark skies and very cold. Garlemald is built on a very harsh and cold area. Worse than Ishgard.
Magitek helped them survive and establish their nation. They had it very tough when they went there.
Don't expect to see a colorful happy city. The land there is dark and harsh.

I hope we become friends with the Garleans before we go to Garlemald, otherwise I fear the capital city will be a dungeon. Making Ala Mhigo a dungeon was a mistake.

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Originally Posted by Riardon

Dark skies and very cold. Garlemald is built on a very harsh and cold area. Worse than Ishgard.
Magitek helped them survive and establish their nation. They had it very tough when they went there.
Don't expect to see a colorful happy city. The land there is dark and harsh.

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Actually given their history of once living in southern Ilsabard before being forced north you'd think they'd have just built their capitol there rather than remaining in the harsh lands they were forced into. Also a magitek/military museum seems cool, we could do with a museum of some kind in general. I know we have an allagan one but allagan tech is a bit too unrelatable, which it's supposed to be ofc.