Way to offer better leveling for crafters.

Simple, an item that you can get in-game or in the shop that fills your leves by so much... let's say 20? Ingame it would probably be purchased with red/blue scripts, beast tribes or gil. It could also be offered on the mog station if those aren't options SE agrees with. I love the crafting system and would like to level without being restricted to 30min - 24hour timers. Maybe there could be some kind of crafting event 'dungeon' that requires a team to fulfill requirements to pass areas and maybe even bosses that are like the one in the steppes that's pure mechanics. Anything to make the grind more bearable.

I actually dislike this idea of having a leves refill... If you can unlimitedly increase leves, that means as long as you have the gil, you can keep buying the items from MB, and then turn in at the levemete. This means as long as you have the gil, you can clear the MB for every single leves item (regardless of leves levels), and throw everything at the levemete without much thoughts. And you can do this for all your classes... which means as long as you're loaded with gil, you can level all classes to level 70 within a day or two. It doesn't sound like a fun game to me, and it promotes gil-selling activities.

I think grinding is a process that has to be there, whether it's DoH or DoL or battle classes. If you remove this component, the game will break.

Sorry, but I don't quite understand what you mean by the 30min - 24hour timers restriction. What are you referring to?

Crafting 'dungeons' could be interesting. It's just something that very hard to implement.

I believe he is unhappy about the rate at which level allowances recharge. As one who uses mine sparingly, I would not care about this idea either. At one time I did wish for the level allowances to recharge better, but with collectibles and GC turn ins now I have no need to drain my Leve Allowances at least. Heck... some of my classes level just me making my own gear. ><

As to the dungeon idea... that get's a meh from me. Kinda like how the FC Workshop does as well. Oh can't do this. Need 3 others who may or may not be avail/interested.

If this item was added it shouldn't be available in the Mog Station. The shop should be for cosmetic items only.

That being said, I don't like this idea. I would rather see a slight buff to the rate at which leves recharge. However, I don't see any real problem with the rate at which you can level a crafter right now anyways. It's actually ridiculously fast.

When your leves run out, do collectibles.

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Originally Posted by Elamys

I don't see any real problem with the rate at which you can level a crafter right now anyways. It's actually ridiculously fast.

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Exactly, I levelled my culinary from 60-64 in only a few leves, perhaps less than 10. its really fast with HQ turn ins.

and when you get to 70 people can start complaining there is nothing to do, and they prop still wont be able to get a good rotation going.
i think leve recharge is fine as it is. If anything leve's are too powerfull, leveling felt over way to quick :(

Bad idea, levelling was and is already is far too quick, only real gate is actually gathering the resources or having the gil to purchase resources. With the buffs they done you shouldn't really even need leves until around level 44, and that I blame on the cost of materials more than being a pure grind. I'm personally more inclined to say it should be a little more difficult to level, at least in Stormblood. I can say Heavensward is much more grindy, you can't just craft away.. Timed node after timed node..

I'm inclined to say that 55+ should be done entirely using House of Splendors. It's longer, but the amount of materia you can get from it...

We already have a better way. Red scrip turn ins are a fine way to level once you run out of leves.

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Originally Posted by Ishim

Simple, an item that you can get in-game or in the shop that fills your leves by so much... let's say 20? Ingame it would probably be purchased with red/blue scripts, beast tribes or gil. It could also be offered on the mog station if those aren't options SE agrees with. I love the crafting system and would like to level without being restricted to 30min - 24hour timers. Maybe there could be some kind of crafting event 'dungeon' that requires a team to fulfill requirements to pass areas and maybe even bosses that are like the one in the steppes that's pure mechanics. Anything to make the grind more bearable.

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Lets go through your ideas one by one.

Gil or Mogstation = pay to win. Strictly a no.

Red scrips isn't bad but it would have to be diminishing returns. As in one extra leve would have to cost more than the highest returns for one HQ levequest item, otherwise its broken.

Beast tribes could work but it would have to be the crafting tribes only. Perhaps the reward for all three turnins / day would get you one, perhaps each turnin would get one. That would be a balance issue.

Dungeons... there were crafting dungeons in XI through the moblin maze makers. The whole MMM thing was a one month wonder. I would love to see crafting and gathering dungeons here but don't expect to. Diadem offered gathering and crafting options, the crafting options were the least utilized and diadem itself was a bit of a flop.

The best we can reasonably hope for is that SB beasttribes will be released soon and that there will be a crafting one.

I don't agree with making leve recharge a cash item. That would make this extremely pay 2 win.

$15 US/ Month, 50 cents a day.
6 Leve recharge per day, $2. US for 24 Leve Recharge via Pot or something.

They could even go $5 and give 30 as it's a premium service.

Those are projected numbers. The real question is, how often is it going to get used? I know how to grind Craft and Gathering. I was 68 Weaver before I even found the Kugane leve desk. I'm just under 66 Gsm, the other 7 crafts and all 3 gathering are 70 and I have never gone below 30 Leve points. Most people I know who put off leveling crafting don't want to assemble the mats and parts to make the Leve's. It's not a shortage of Leve points.

In summary, leveling isn't a problem in DoH or DoL. The issue if there is one is, if you don't have 5 to 50 mill in over melds an Omni 290 score crafter is at end game. Even if you devoted the time to all the yellow scrip gear you still aren't doing 1 or 2 star without over melds. tl:dr, leveling is the easy part.

I for one would like to to see more quests like the moogle crafting quests but with unlimited quests or use leve tokens. I really enjoyed the moogle quests but being limited to just 3 to 6 quests per day simply sucks.

The reason i like the moogle quests is that you dont have to go farm, gather or spend gil for mats just to turn in leve/collectables. I think it would be nice to have quests that hand you mats to craft items that mimic actual crafting. That way the quests have an equal difficulty to leves or collectables w/out waisting time or gil on obtaining materials.

I was really surprised the devs didn't create crafts/gathering quests in all stormblood areas to help rebuild the towns. There is so much potential for crafts and gathering classes. I would love to have crafting and gathering quests that will help rebuild the war torn areas and see what you built as you fly over (kinda like what happen as you ranked up in the moogle crafting area but for most areas in Stormblood) and get rewards to craft rare gear, glamour, mounts, minions and housing items.

P.S... Devs if you are reading this can we please get an Alchemy chemistry set like the one's we see in the Reach's Hospital for housing?

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Originally Posted by Astral145

I was really surprised the devs didn't create crafts/gathering quests in all stormblood areas to help rebuild the towns. There is so much potential for crafts and gathering classes.

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This has been a question asked since ARR launched. From poor starving people in refugee camps around Ul'dah to little Ala Mhigo and 'poor' people running around in rags. FF14 has always favored themepark on rails to any sort of emergent game play.

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Originally Posted by Ksenia

This has been a question asked since ARR launched. From poor starving people in refugee camps around Ul'dah to little Ala Mhigo and 'poor' people running around in rags. FF14 has always favored themepark on rails to any sort of emergent game play.

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It's like people have completely forgotten about the poor starving people in Pearl lane and only care about the new areas ;)

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Originally Posted by QT_Melon

It's like people have completely forgotten about the poor starving people in Pearl lane and only care about the new areas ;)

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Sometimes, I feel that it's rather strange that the story only portraits Ul'dah as the only place among Ul'dah/Gridan/Limsa that has poor people. I personally don't believe that there are no poor people in Gridan/Limsa! LOL!

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Originally Posted by Caimie_Tsukino

Sometimes, I feel that it's rather strange that the story only portraits Ul'dah as the only place among Ul'dah/Gridan/Limsa that has poor people. I personally don't believe that there are no poor people in Gridan/Limsa! LOL!

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Some reason I imagine that even the poor in Limsa and Gridania have abilities to live off the land, hence the poaching that often happens. But Ul'dah...is just a lot of dirt and I'm sure the dust/sandfish taste nasty ;)

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Originally Posted by Caimie_Tsukino

Sometimes, I feel that it's rather strange that the story only portraits Ul'dah as the only place among Ul'dah/Gridan/Limsa that has poor people. I personally don't believe that there are no poor people in Gridan/Limsa! LOL!

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Youre right to think that Caimie. Its a coordinated propaganda campaign cooked up by the elementals and carried out by the pirates to make the honest hard working citizens of the shining oasis and the syndicate that runs their city look corrupt and decadent. I cant say too much, but the clues are all there.