I'm in the dark regarding the technical aspect of what incorporating a brand new graphics engine into a game entails. However, I have a simple question that I would like somebody to answer.
There is a lack of enemy diversity in XIV as you all know. Is SE holding back on adding new enemy models because they would have to re-create them for the current engine on top of creating them for the new one? Or would the new engine just apply changes to the rendering of the current assets on top of adding new possibilities? 2.0 is quite a long way off so it would be nice to see a decent diversity of enemies roaming the fields of Eorzea. If we can't get brand new models, perhaps tweaks to current enemies would be nice: color swap, height change, etc. I know we have a few alternatives to current models, but more would be nice :cool:
Question regarding the new graphics engine
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12-31-2011, 05:30 AMKamikazeManQuestion regarding the new graphics engine
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12-31-2011, 05:32 AMburitoslicer
http://lodestone.finalfantasyxiv.com/pl/teaser/ <-- visit this and scroll down to the roadmap. There should be a bunch of drawings and concepts from 2.0. Enjoy!
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12-31-2011, 05:33 AMKiriA500
Enemies would work regardless of which engine is being used, as they're just polygonal models. The engine just tells your computer how to render the information (world/models/lighting/effects/etc).
They haven't been making new models because I'm sure they've been busy rebuilding the world. Or they're lazy. One of those. -
12-31-2011, 05:33 AMKamikazeManThat doesn't answer my question at all.Quote:
Originally Posted by buritoslicer
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12-31-2011, 05:33 AMKamikazeManAh alright thanks for clearing that up.Quote:
Originally Posted by KiriA500
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12-31-2011, 05:36 AMburitoslicerThose were just concepts of what we know to come in 2.0. Also sift through the live producer videos for more stuff. Not sure what you want from us? Something SE hasn't given out yet? Were still quite a ways away from 2.0, give it a bit and more stuff will pop up.Quote:
Originally Posted by KamikazeMan
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12-31-2011, 05:39 AMKamikazeManTry to read my entire post. I know new models are coming with and after 2.0. I was clearly asking if it was possible to add more before that due to the new graphics engine they're adding. While SE hasn't given info on the new engine, anybody with knowledge on how it works could answer my question.....like KiriA500 has.Quote:
Originally Posted by buritoslicer
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12-31-2011, 05:40 AMninesunz
From my understanding due to the persistent world (no loading zones) the server and client has to preload the models, the more models the more memory and then you get issues when you hit the memory wall.
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12-31-2011, 05:42 AMKamikazeManSo do you think it has to do with the same reason we see a lot of copy and paste terrain? Because maybe the current set up couldn't handle too many enemy types since it's trying to make the game as seamless as possible? Which would explain why various enemies just get changes and no color alterations or height changes (some do, but most don't).Quote:
Originally Posted by ninesunz
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12-31-2011, 05:44 AMninesunz
I believe in one of the live letters or producer letters Yoshi P. stated that because of the persistent type world the terrain is copy and paste and makes for a very boring looking world. The are reverting to loading zones in 2.0 to make the world look more lively and less copy and paste.
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12-31-2011, 05:46 AMburitoslicerI completely read your post, there are some new models displayed in the 2.0 concepts. I'm pretty sure Yoshida flashed stuff from his laptop to the camera a few times, although when I think about it... it was showing off new mount/running/jumping concepts. I think on the first one he shows off some new primal models and a few monster models.Quote:
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12-31-2011, 05:48 AMRubicon
According to the roadmap, we are enjoying the new jobs right now! Oh wait...
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12-31-2011, 05:54 AMKamikazeManI know you're trying to help and I appreciate it, but that's not what I was asking. I've been keeping up with the game since day 1 and have seen all of the videos, read all of the letters, and kept up with news regarding the game. My question was whether or not SE are able to release new enemy models or variations or if we have to wait till 2.0 due to them creating a new graphics engine for XIV and being restricted to the capabilities of the current one.Quote:
Originally Posted by buritoslicer
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12-31-2011, 06:01 AMFelisWhich roadmap do you read? In my roadmap we get jobs with 1.21Quote:
Originally Posted by Rubicon
There are already some new monster models ingame, but currently only quest related like the golem in the grand company quest. I agree that we need more free running killable monster models -
12-31-2011, 06:37 AMGarlen
According to the roadmap, we should already have patch 1.21..... hope this doesn't mean they are falling behind.
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12-31-2011, 07:00 AMNoctisUmbraQuote:
Originally Posted by Rubicon
Really? Because it quite clearly says Early February 2012 for 1.21 release.Quote:
Originally Posted by Garlen
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12-31-2011, 07:09 AMFelishttp://wdl.square-enix.com/ffxiv/dow...Outline_EN.pdfQuote:
Early February 2012 - Patch 1.21 (and subsequent hotfixes)
⇒Creation of Private Rooms (Inns, etc.) / Hamlet defense PvE content
⇒The job system (7 jobs plus related quests and gear) / Personal chocobo gear
⇒Two new instanced raids
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12-31-2011, 07:09 AMGarlenAhh, you are correct. I was looking at the other roadmap, here: http://wdl.square-enix.com/ffxiv/dow...Roadmap_EN.pdfQuote:
Originally Posted by NoctisUmbra
It appears in that chart that 1.21 should have hit in December, got a bit confused.