Win trading Noobs

Is anything going to happen this season on the win traders?

Or are the GMs going to continue to let this happen? :confused::confused:

Currently there are win traders on the AETHER Data center and they have been wintrading for the past FOUR SEASONS.......with the new requirements of making feast available to level 30 and up...MOST LIKELY they will take this advantage and resume win trading...

I am curious tho, does this happen on other data centers?

I don't think the devs actually care about what we go through in PvP, at least that's how it feels. So much feedback that never gets dev posts, responses, or anything that seems like attention at all. Nothing about the chat situation. I'm of the feeling they just don't care man.

How do you know? And it would be hard to queue in the same games. But I can see people who might at 75% effort because their platinum buddy on the other team is trying to hit diamond. And the times they aren't in the same match or the same team they play 100%. I the world and ffxiv was fair and everyone was a good sport :(

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Originally Posted by Bloodb

How do you know? And it would be hard to queue in the same games. But I can see people who might at 75% effort because their platinum buddy on the other team is trying to hit diamond. And the times they aren't in the same match or the same team they play 100%. I the world and ffxiv was fair and everyone was a good sport :(

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Just queue as healer m8, just act like LoS / Lag / DC or just blatantly AFK

Especially queue during non-peak hours / Midnight for better chances to queue against each other.

Its pretty obvious knowing which 2 players are win trading if you pay attention to their character behavior

Cynric is most likely correct.

There was a guy who gained over 1000 rating points in one day. Did something like 50ish matches and only lost 7 times. I thought that was kind of suspicious. But of course it's hard to prove anything.

PVP has always been a disaster in this game. It was dead, then only populated by win traders because it was dead and now this. The Feast having timed exclusive rewards, no chat, and easy to rig matches just means that people will rig matches to get ahead.

Feast Roulette and make the rewards by tiers and not ranks. Diamond gets all rewards, Platinum gets everything but the weapon, etc etc. This will encourage people to do the feast casually and just work towards platinum until the season is over instead of a few teams rigging matches to stay in the top 100 for the new glamor.

It just baffles me how no other leaderboards in this game seem to matter except for PVP.

Ranked at the top of Frontline standings? Doesn't matter.
Ranked highest for Palace of the Dead? Doesn't matter.
Ranked high in FC or GC standings? Doesn't matter.

Even if the devs are cooking up some new amazing PVP stuff for 4.1 - it would be really nice for them to step in and say "we hear you and this is what we're planning to do." I'd love to know what sort of data they're looking for in Season 5.

This needs to be investigated asap....

Person 1
114wins 138 losses 82.6% 2380 diamond rank 2 birthdate (14th sun of the 1st Umbral moon)
On another data center....
116wins 135 losses 85.9% 2512 diamond rank 1 birthdate (14th sun of the 1st Umbral moon)
NOTE: characters are wearing the same gear and look similar
Nothing leveled up except except to enter the feast

Person 2
98wins 164losses 59.7% 1672 platinum rank 32
The other data center....
99wins 153losses 64.7% 1757 platinum rank 23
This character looks exactly the same. Same exact name on both data centers. Nothing leveled except paladin on both characters.

I've combined screenshots together to make a report. I'm not saying these people are bad pvp'ers. It's proof enough that needs further investigation of interfering with ranked feast matches.

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I made a report to the special task force. So I could include the screenshots.
Im hoping that if it's only a handful of (teams) working together. If there's a lot they will start clogging the 1-100 rankings.
Worse...The example above these cheaters are cheating together on multiple data centers.

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Originally Posted by Bloodb

This needs to be investigated asap....

Person 1
114wins 138 losses 82.6% 2380 diamond rank 2 birthdate (14th sun of the 1st Umbral moon)
On another data center....
116wins 135 losses 85.9% 2512 diamond rank 1 birthdate (14th sun of the 1st Umbral moon)
NOTE: characters are wearing the same gear and look similar
Nothing leveled up except except to enter the feast.

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You do realise he's number one ranked player of Season 3 (Primal) and 4 (Aether) and is widely known in pvp community as an awesome healer, right?

Whether they are bad or amazing isn't what I'm judging. What looks fishy to me is that:

both persons have:
about the same small amount of games played
from the same servers
the same name on 2 data centers
same looking characters
86% and 83% winrate
nothing but a level 48 paladin leveled.
same birthday on characters


It's obviously the same 2 people with characters on 2 different data centers. Debating skill or streaming has nothing to do with or if the first person is getting benefit from the second person.
Sure when they queue in together they play 100% so lets just say they win 50% of those matches. 50% of the time they queue in together they'll be on different teams. Where the person throws the match and plays stupid. Every time to benefit their partner who's top of the rankings.

Just stop please :(

Ok :(

the more I think about it, it could also be that the healer who's rank 1 and 2 is really really good. Even if they play together a healer is going to be able to influence a match more if they're on different teams.
There's no way to ever know. I instantly thought the worst. Only way to keep playing more feast once your 2500 rating and #1 is play an alt to practice, keep getting better, and have fun. Then if you luck out and reach rating 2,500 and rank 1 on your alt sit on it so you dont lose it. Start an alt on a different data center. Some people are in love with pvp good grief.

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Originally Posted by Bloodb

It's obviously the same 2 people with characters on 2 different data centers. Debating skill or streaming has nothing to do with or if the first person is getting benefit from the second person.
Sure when they queue in together they play 100% so lets just say they win 50% of those matches. 50% of the time they queue in together they'll be on different teams. Where the person throws the match and plays stupid. Every time to benefit their partner who's top of the rankings.

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People don't make alts to play with or against each other. They do it to play on another datacenter with other players or to rank up on another job. What you describe is dualboxing which is very obvious (one healer is healing opening burst and other is afk, match lasts less than a minute) and I've seen it only once in all five seasons, that person stopped doing it and deleted his alt after a few matches when pvp community exposed him.
Do you really think people would let dualboxer to climb to number one rank multiple seasons?

Fishy is Fishy. I stay away from ranked Feast generally because SE cannot do a good job policing it (hell, they deleted team matches because the exploiting was beyond their control). Being a godly player doesn't exclude one from the temptation of exploiting the system. I know some world prog raiders that bot in PvP, fates, and Gold Saucer mini-games. The stress of trying to stay at the top and still do all the normal things is real.

The healer has been streaming nearly all his matches on both his characters. You can check him playing on Twitch @ UncleAcid


He is legit.

I have played with him before. He is really, really good.