Sleeve Draw...

... Do any of y'all actually use this? If so, how/when? I think I've touched it maybe once or twice after hitting 70, and once was to see what it did and another time was an accident.

I'd really love to hear if anyone's found a way to make use of this ability. I pretty much always have cards rolling, so there never seems to be an opportunity/reason to hit it.

I use it on cooldown in 8 mans. Besides spire in the spread position everything is useable

Before battle get your cards/lord. Use the card 3 secs before the fight begins, use the lord after combust; use sleeve draw if you get something decent... If no just throw everything away.

It's better now that they added the empty road and undraw spread abilities.

With Undraw Spread and Empty Road you can pretty much use it off CD with a full empty Arcana Gauge and face no repurcussions. Out if habit I still use it the old way though, which is with a Balance in Spread and try to get the 50% AOE proc for free.

It's pretty much impossible not to get value out of now though, after the card "click off" additions in 4.05.

The only time to not use your Sleeve Draw is if your Draw is almost off cooldown, because it will put Draw back on its full cooldown.
Otherwise there's no reason not to use it. You get up to 4 free random cards.

Almost entirely used for higher uptime on buffs. As an example, pre-loading RR-Spire, Spread-Balance/Spear, and Lord, you can buff the entire group for 5% damage/crit, get some initial oGCD damage with Lord, Sleeve Draw and then you have....whatever it gives you to work with. Almost all of it has a use, with the exception of sometimes getting Spire/Ewer in the Spread position (In which case, hey, free mana/TP for whoever needs it!) In a perfect world you get another 50% AOE RR, another damage buff, and another Lord to dish out even more damage.

There's little reason not to use it on CD.

Thanks for the suggestions.

I'm just having a lot of trouble figuring out the timing of it, since after I use it, hitting any cards will of course put things on CD. So use it shortly after Drawing a card?

I use this when I already have a Balance on Spread, mostly.

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Originally Posted by Naunet

Thanks for the suggestions.

I'm just having a lot of trouble figuring out the timing of it, since after I use it, hitting any cards will of course put things on CD. So use it shortly after Drawing a card?

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Use your Draw, decide what you want to do with it first and use it, then use Sleeve Draw. If you didn't use re draw, you can re draw the card you drew from your Sleeve Draw as well.
So for example, you could have an empty slate, use Draw, get a Spire, royal road it, Sleeve Draw, get a Bole and Ewer and your minor arcana, use Redraw on your Ewer and maybe get a spear or balance. Unless you're super unlucky, usually the combo of everything guarantees you to get something useful.

*thumbs up* Thanks, that helps a lot.

I wait until I have a card I want on spread, balance or spear and then pop it. I usually have good luck with it such as getting a group spread when I do that. So pretty much used when it's off cool down.

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Originally Posted by Scox

I wait until I have a card I want on spread, balance or spear and then pop it. I usually have good luck with it such as getting a group spread when I do that. So pretty much used when it's off cool down.

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This is what I do.
Draw and Spread a Balance, Arrow, or Spear then use Sleeve Draw to fill in the rest. If the card in the Drawn slot is a Ewer or Spire and my Royal Road isn't AoE, I'll Royal Road them for an AoE.

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Originally Posted by Mimilu

This is what I do.
Draw and Spread a Balance, Arrow, or Spear then use Sleeve Draw to fill in the rest. If the card in the Drawn slot is a Ewer or Spire and my Royal Road isn't AoE, I'll Royal Road them for an AoE.

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Aye, great lalafell think alike

It's good to use when you've got a spread card and want to fill up the other 3 slots. Most ideal situation is getting expanded royal road and something useful in your draw, so you can hang onto your spread and try drawing again for another expanded royal road in 30 seconds, maximizing buff uptime.

Or when draw is on cooldown and you're bored, and you like to live life on the edge.

it helps you throw out more aoe buffs in 8 man party.

Just use it right at the opening and on CD & right after your draw.