PvP is Mind-numbingly bad. Lets change it, players.

Heres alittle fun fact about Frontlines, did you know that if 2 of the 3 teams agreed to let the other team win that EVERYONE would get more exp, mark, and tomes then any method in the game? I say we do this to speak out that we want fun PvP. I mean you're basically already doing this because individual performance means nothing! Were already waiting out the clock like chickens with our heads cut off, and when you really think about it, its rng who gets in first place anyways. This idea will probably never get any traction but i **** well wish it would.

This would make the devs change pvp, I WANT TO HAVE FUN IM PAYING $15 a month. If you honestly enjoy frontlines you have serious problems.

And the Music omg that guitar riff gets soooo annoying after the 5000th game. I hate it, it gives me a brain tumor. its 2017, not 1999 who wants a guitar riff loop?! and dont tell me to turn off my music effects, because i like the music anywhere else. and dont tell me to stop doing pvp because its stilllll the most efficient exp.

what the heck

8500 matches average to get every class to lvl70. and for what? are you really having fun doing it in frontlines? are you really? and if you are, tell me if thats changed after the 4000th match of brain dead gameplay.

I can't tell if you are serious or making fun of the current state of PvP.

I have fun playing PvP for PvP...

Also fl is only the most efficient exp for your first 60-70. PoTD is most efficient from 1-60 and after your first class the armory bonus makes FATES + Dungeons most efficient from 61-70. Even if you're DPS, the leveling roulette is decent now.

Im being serious and also making fun PvP

No, because as dps you have to wait in Queue for about 30min to get into any dungeon so really dungeons arent ever efficient for dps leveling. and Fates? lmao i never see anyone at fates on my server. And that isnt my fault.

I enjoy Frontlines. I always did even before XP was ever offered. And what you're effectively suggesting is wintrading and/or fixed matches. No.

Practically everything else offers more XP than PvP does. I'm glad to see more interest in PvP, but if you have no actual desire to compete and are just looking for fast easy XP, make friends or a cross server PF and run what gives more.

As it stands however, any preplanned arrangements to win or lose for the sake of XP or any reward is in fact, wintrading, and is quite frowned upon.

It can be fun and it's not just random. A team can get rng lucky in Shatter but you can react by capturing their base which cuts off point ticking for their team and turns it into your points, focus on KOing them, cut off their access to upcoming ice spawns.

And Feast is about which team has the most medals. The more a person collects, the higher their vulnerability stack gets, making them both easier to KO and worth the most points to KO. Cat and mouse, grab medals from opponents then defend it.

Seal Rock with Seize rules was the best frontlines map. You capture tomeliths, they tick points until they are drained, but you have to defend them because other teams can steal. No ice to attack, just opponents to pvp against to defend your positions.

I don't like pvp, so let's remove actually competing in pvp so I can level faster?

You are more than likely one of the ones autorunning in circles or zerging right past the ice to chase down a half dead player

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Originally Posted by MaximumAttackG

No, because as dps you have to wait in Queue for about 30min to get into any dungeon so really dungeons arent ever efficient for dps leveling. and Fates? lmao i never see anyone at fates on my server. And that isnt my fault.

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That's why you do FATEs in between queues. It doesn't matter if no one else is doing it because you can easily do them solo, bring out your chocobo too.

And yeah you're straight up calling for win-trading and match fixing. Pre-tty sure that's against the rules, take a gander at the pinned thread about win trading. x)

If you don't like grinding PVP, stop grinding PVP! I love it so I guess I have 'serious problems' but at least I'm not raging on a forum about how someone is forcing me at gunpoint to speed-grind every job in the game to 70 all of sudden, even though I never bothered levelling my jobs pre-SB anyway. You'll enjoy it a lot more if you stop stressing about levelling jobs you'll never play again to 70 as quickly as possible and start understanding the strategy which makes wins far more than 'rng'.

The music is great too. You are crazy, sir.

The only thing I agree with is the music... Wish we had a "link"orchestrion!

MaximumAttackG if you're that lazy to earn EXP to exploit the game for other players maybe FFXIV isn't a game for you and you should quit altogether. It's still a game for people that enjoy PvP and you selfishly are trying to exploit (pretty much attempting to cheat) to get fast EXP and be lazy. If you really want to earn the exp that way you should do POTD with 3 friends. That way you don't upset the people actually interested in engaging in PvP matches. There are a lot of people who do like playing competitive 72 player matches and people who have been exploiting it are pretty upsetting and destroying the game for them. There's been people banned for exploiting 4 vs 4 competitive pvp in the past as well as it is essentially cheating a competition that does give exclusive prizes and also makes the game pretty unfair for honest players competing. It is also a reportable offense listed in the first thread of this forum explaining they take it seriously.