Solo endgame battle content.

This game has been primarily party content based. In order to attract new players who have a hard time partying up and staying in parties because of time restraints, I was wondering if you could add NMs and maybe Primals that are only allowed to be fought solo. Battles that would require great use of skill and good equipment to beat. NMs that would require different disciplines/classes to kill them. Like this NM is weak by magic and can only be beaten by a discipline of magic, or a NM that can only be killed by physical attacks. Perhaps a instance that takes a solo character through a gauntlet of battles the require multiple disciplines.

So instead of content restricted to parties, you want solo content restricted to classes? And you want to make endgame content more accessible?

What?

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Originally Posted by NoctisUmbra

So instead of content restricted to parties, you want solo content restricted to classes? And you want to make endgame content more accessible?

What?

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I never said to make it more accessible. just more solo content. Sometimes it is hard to get into a party because you are not the class that is needed anyway. You need to have multiple classes at 50 in order to help the party and change into the class that is most desired for the best outcome for some battles anyway.

I'm sorry but I disagree. I don't think it will ever happen either.

I think a better solution would just be to make end game content with more variety. Dungeons and Instances for parties of four, and which require different classes than the usual ARC/GLA/CNJ or LNC/GLA/CNJ combination.

I wouldn't mind some solo events for decent gear. Sorta like the 60 ENM from XI, except the rewards didn't suck.

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Originally Posted by Crazy

This game has been primarily party content based. In order to attract new players who have a hard time partying up and staying in parties because of time restraints, I was wondering if you could add NMs and maybe Primals that are only allowed to be fought solo. Battles that would require great use of skill and good equipment to beat. NMs that would require different disciplines/classes to kill them. Like this NM is weak by magic and can only be beaten by a discipline of magic, or a NM that can only be killed by physical attacks. Perhaps a instance that takes a solo character through a gauntlet of battles the require multiple disciplines.

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From what I'm seeing, the solo end game content will be for our job quests, at least thats the type of feeling i'm getting from it.

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This game has been primarily party content based.

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I dont think solo engame will ever exist, nor would i want it too. Skyrim is single play i think. There is allot to do solo, and if you cant set aside a few hours here and there to do endgame with a party then id suggest not playing an mmo at all.

I think solo endgame content should consist of maybe a PvP system (awhile down the line), and perhaps something "points" based like the GC stuff. Besides that, there really isn't much place for it; an MMO is supposed to be played by multiple people, and it's a bit much to expect content specifically tailored to the solo gamer.

That being said, I would love some content designed for smaller groups. The end-game picture is sorely lacking for standard "static party" setups, which typically have a hard time maintaining and coordinating 8 people (hell, my group of four has had a hard time staying together at times, what with jobs and school schedules). Even just removing the entry requirements on existing dungeons and fights would be a huge step in the right direction; it also shouldn't be too hard to introduce a 'scaling' difficulty based on how many enter.

Bottom line - as someone who joined FFXIV primarily to continue his static party from XI (a group of four), I'm strongly considering switching to another MMO. I know there is a lot of work to be done, and I can appreciate that there are a lot of demands and only so much time and energy to spend on each. That being said, short of small XP parties together, there is absolutely nothing available for us. It's not just that everything's extremely difficult; we're used to having to cobble together weird setups to beat fights that aren't supposed to be done with four people. It's that we're not even *allowed entry*. The fact that we're even blocked from the AF Armour quests (since certain pieces require 8-man parties to even enter the dungeon in question) was a massive disappointment for all of us. We've liked a lot of the directions that FFXIV is moving in, but if there's not some eventual sign of low-man content, we're going to quit for lack of anything to do, no matter how promising the game is looking.

@ OP. FFXI has this, it's called Matt Fight. How much fun was THAT giaz!?!?

Once again, more useless threads sucking bandwidth.

I think they just need to make parties more of an option for leveling... You cant party until 40+

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Originally Posted by Kaizen90

I think they just need to make parties more of an option for leveling... You cant party until 40+

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Yes you can. I have. And have done rather well...it may not be as fast as power levelling, but it's a lot more fun. I've been in parties in my 20s and 30s where we were gaining a level maybe every half hour--and having a ball doing it.

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Originally Posted by Kaizen90

I think they just need to make parties more of an option for leveling... You cant party until 40+

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im pretty sure at around lvl 35 you can get good xp on young raptors.

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im pretty sure at around lvl 35 you can get good xp on young raptors.

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Yep. And at lower levels, the mitelings in Thanalan are pretty good.

People are so funny, I’m not sure why some are saying that prospect of having later game challenging Solo fights is totally not going to, or shouldn’t happen. Honestly they already have small instances of it in the game now. Some of the main scenario quest fights, you already have to do solo (Beckon of the Elementals you have to do solo). There are also Grand Company leves where you aren't permitted to have a party help you (I last time I tried, the ones in Muy-Tuy Cellars are like that). True, the ones I mentioned aren't terribly hard, but I think its assuming a bit much to say that they aren't going to add (at the very least )something like the Maat job fights somewhere down the road. Why does the idea of having some challenging solo content frighten people? Why is it threatening for SE to provide multiple play-style content?

There will likely always be far more party-style content than solo style content, but I actually do hope that they continue to sprinkle some challenging solo fighting in here and there. Its nice to have some diversity. To me, it would be kind of rewarding to have at least a few things that you can achieve that are based off your own skill rather than that you had a awesome team that maybe carried you thru it, or had a level capped friend come do it for you.

If you don’t see any value in having a few solo fights, that’s fine, that’s your prerogative, but don’t act like that just because you only like one style, that it is the only style that should be offered. Having a few solo challenges available to players isn’t the end of the world, it wouldn’t take away from your experience. Honestly it would only add to the life of the game and keep more people playing. It’s not always fun to rinse, lather, repeat the same style all the time. Some like to try new and very different types challenges.

Its so petty to see the “This is an MMO” retorts, or the “If you want to play solo, go play Skyrim” type comments… There is no reason why different styles of players can’t coexist and enjoy their time in FFXIV. Just because people want to have some solo type content doesn’t mean that they are anti-social, or don’t want to play with others. Just because some don’t have as much time to spend on large party situations, doesn’t mean they should just give up on achieving anything in this game. The game is about growing your character.. so why shouldn’t there be diversity to keep things interesting? We want people to keep playing, not get bored and move on.

In reality content is what we need, so I’ll gladly accept any and all content they throw at us and thoroughly encourage SE to offer diverse opportunities.. that’s what keeps it interesting and adds longevity. Anything that keeps multiple people’s attention so that they continue to play is good, because it means I will have people to play with. Casual and Hardcore players all pay the same at the end of the month.

Seriously I think the real root of people not wanting “end game solo content” is that “elite” players worry that a solo player might actually be able to have some kind of cool equipment that might be comparable to what they might acquire from a huge alliance style raid that they “worked so hard for”. I’ll remind you that solo fights don’t have to mean easy. If its challenging enough, why shouldn’t they get a chance at possibly getting some cool drop too?

Content is content….. Bring on the content!