New dificult for old Trials?

I think its a good idea, imagine doing Titan (Savage) with brand new machanics and battle settled to lv 70?



What do you guys think?

No, thanks.
Cant we let old fights rest now? Fighting Titan a FOURTH time? Why would you want to do that? ;_;

If its "brand new mechanics" I'd rather have an actual, brand new fight to go with it - new boss, new music, new arena.
Maybe its just me but I dont like that sort of constant backtracking. We fought Titan three times, I'd like him to give up now...

I would LOVE a Titan Savage. Still one of my favorite fights in game is Titan Extreme!!

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Originally Posted by Inuk9

I think its a good idea, imagine doing Titan (Savage) with brand new machanics and battle settled to lv 70?



What do you guys think?

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No, Titan already has 3 modes. More than enough.

Several of them are pretty savage if you do them with half the intended number of people and synced down appropriately.

we have more than enough old content. going back to redo old fights takes resources away from creating new content. No thanks to savage 2.0 primals we all know how much 2nd coil savage went over like a lead brick.

No Thanks.

Absolutely not. I'd much rather have new content than the same old boring ones.

Next up, Titan Super Extreme Ultra Metal edition! BOW DOWN overdweller, under the weight!

like others said , better have new content than same old stuff

Titan was just an example, could be any other old primal fight.

And I doubt a new difficult will take the same time to develop as new content. Let's be realistic, please.

Or we could do a trial of the gods and have a mode where you have to fight each god one by one without fail to get some reward.. each fight capping your i level so you can't roll over it.

That would keep everything the same but refresh it.

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Originally Posted by Keramory

Or we could do a trial of the gods and have a mode where you have to fight each god one by one without fail to get some reward.. each fight capping your i level so you can't roll over it.

That would keep everything the same but refresh it.

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I actually would love a boss rush like this. I'm a sucker for that sort of stuff and while I'm aware it's been beaten to death on other games, megaman and devil may cry for example, it's something I would love to challenge myself with.

I remember them teasing (potentially half seriously) doing Ozma Savage. I'd love for *that* to happen, just to see how a 24 member party would handle it.

if you want a challenge then solo undersize it. these aren't the type of fights where you can just tune up hp and throw the same mechanics more often. fights have to be programmed, tuned, and balanced and that all takes up valuable dev time. If you think they can just whip it up without taking resources away from new content you don't have a clue how to program things. Let's be "realistic" here yourself.

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Originally Posted by DrWho2010

if you want a challenge then solo undersize it. these aren't the type of fights where you can just tune up hp and throw the same mechanics more often. fights have to be programmed, tuned, and balanced and that all takes up valuable dev time. If you think they can just whip it up without taking resources away from new content you don't have a clue how to program things. Let's be "realistic" here yourself.

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What do you think super savage is?

I think it's a great idea, 90% of the community won't though because they can't stand any content in the game that can't be facerolled first try.

I would like a new version of Shiva too.

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Originally Posted by Inuk9

I think its a good idea, imagine doing Titan (Savage) with brand new machanics and battle settled to lv 70?



What do you guys think?

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I think that we should get an un-nerfed original Titan HM with all of his original power and mechanics restored, and echo removed, with strict and complete level/item level sync level 50 & ilevel 70. Then everyone who blathers on about it being easy, can step into the arena and see whether they really can cash the checks that their mouth has written for them.

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Originally Posted by Whocareswhatmynameis

I think it's a great idea, 90% of the community won't though because they can't stand any content in the game that can't be facerolled first try.

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It's not about that at all. First, there should be no "wall" in the main story quests, so that you can actually progress without waiting for months on to get a lucky party that will do it. Making the difficult content a bonus, optional is perfectly fine and I doubt many would be against it (even those that don't like difficult content).

Second, instead of redoing old content AGAIN, to make more difficult versions of it, why not just make a NEW difficult content that can add something MORE than just a difficulty curve?! Instead of Titan primal, why not use Hashmal, from Ivalice?! Just, really, just about anything. It's not like elements matter in FFXIV. And not only would you have a new, difficult fight (ideally in its extreme/savage version, not basic one), but also new story.

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Originally Posted by kikix12

Second, instead of redoing old content AGAIN, to make more difficult versions of it, why not just make a NEW difficult content that can add something MORE than just a difficulty curve?!

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Because people want to fight a newer version of Titan. I say why not. Make it a minstrel ballad thing.

There are too many different versions of the old primals as is. I would personally prefer brand new content than continually revisiting old.

I think that maybe in the future would be interesting to make something with the old primals especially the ARR ones, maybe to add the new mechanics that have been added during the years

Rather see the time and money spent towards new content.

If there is anything in older content that deserves a new version trial, it is story bosses that never got a proper trial aka The Wandering Minstrel fights.

The Primals get enough attention even under the newer format with a Normal and EX mode.

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Originally Posted by Remedi

I think that maybe in the future would be interesting to make something with the old primals especially the ARR ones, maybe to add the new mechanics that have been added during the years

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SE has done this in the past and a good example would be a fight against the 6 original primals at the same time on a new battlefield. I still think not enough time has gone by to justify it though. Maybe a 5th year anniversary trial.

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Originally Posted by Kosmos992k

I think that we should get an un-nerfed original Titan HM with all of his original power and mechanics restored, and echo removed, with strict and complete level/item level sync level 50 & ilevel 70. Then everyone who blathers on about it being easy, can step into the arena and see whether they really can cash the checks that their mouth has written for them.

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Exactly...

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Originally Posted by Oscura

What do you think super savage is?

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Original difficulty before it got turned down during dev testing runs.

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I prefer a 3rd mode to the new trials, not the old.

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Originally Posted by Vidu

No, thanks.
Cant we let old fights rest now? Fighting Titan a FOURTH time? Why would you want to do that? ;_;

If its "brand new mechanics" I'd rather have an actual, brand new fight to go with it - new boss, new music, new arena.
Maybe its just me but I dont like that sort of constant backtracking. We fought Titan three times, I'd like him to give up now...

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Most "new" stuff is reskin/review of manichics of the past anyway, at this point it is just reskining old content so I really do not care one way or the other. I would be up for lv 70 versions of old content, waiting for snowcloak hard mode. Anyways I present Navel Slam Extreme , lv 70 titan:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Ssnaiquvns

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Originally Posted by Whocareswhatmynameis

I think it's a great idea, 90% of the community won't though because they can't stand any content in the game that can't be facerolled first try.

I would like a new version of Shiva too.

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It's not the case for me...It's more of I am sick and tired of going back to back to back
on older content like that. Keep moving forward and let older content be just that.
Make new stuff to have fun with. I would begin to think their losing idea's
if they make 10 version of Ifrit lol.

New difficulty no, but making the extreme mode relevant at any time could be something to do. And for raids too. But they would never do that, would take too much time.

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Originally Posted by Arutan

New difficulty no, but making the extreme mode relevant at any time could be something to do. And for raids too. But they would never do that, would take too much time.

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24 man raid roulette come finally
Now we can start to ask for an ex primal roulette.

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Originally Posted by Inuk9

I think its a good idea, imagine doing Titan (Savage) with brand new machanics and battle settled to lv 70?



What do you guys think?

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I would love that, but look we got something similar to that already, and it's called the last battle of the MSQ lol. I wish there would be a savage/ex version of it, or the old primals made harder, even newer released primals should have once again, a regular version, a hard version and a ex version. So we can please casual, midcore and people being bored aka hardcore, but I don't see it happening, because then someone actually needs to put some money and resources into it, that maybe in most cases would have generated a more overall content as well as giving more development time to the already existing branches. Sadly to say, there's not much of a market for the primal "savage" category and we have to accept that.