will FFXIV 2.0 beat FFXIII-2 ?

Final Fantasy XIII-2 was released in Japan on 15 December 2011. A week has passed and the numbers are in FFXIII-2 sold 524,000 units in it’s first week of sales.

the copies sold are now : 525,271

ps: only in jp

Probably not. If not mistaken FFXIII had some really decent sales...so many of those who bought (even those who didn't like it) might be getting the XIII-2 for the sake of seeing a bit of RPG in it.

2.0 will have a WAY crappier release because it won't be a fresh release...even if they're relaunching, the media already know what to expect and when you search "FFXIV review/overview" you might still receive the launch ratings. Also, i really doubt 2.0 will be much better than it is now, probably not being good enough to convince the especiallized media.

IMO 2.0 might have the relaunch sales even to a ported game, like when they launched, as example, FFIV, V, VI and chrono trigger to PSone.

XIV on release sold just about that much so I doubt v2 will beat it anyway at all due to 1. People giving up, 2. Competition and 3. People waiting for reviews/youtube videos.

13 sold like 1.5m in JP but now sells 500k, that kind of hit will give 2.0 a bad liftoff.

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Originally Posted by Lienn

Probably. If not mistaken FFXIII had some really decent sales...so many of those who bought (even those who didn't like it) might be getting the XIII-2 for the sake of seeing a bit of RPG in it.

2.0 will have a WAY crappier release because it won't be a fresh release...even if they're relaunching, the media already know what to expect and when you search "FFXIV review/overview" you might still receive the launch ratings. Also, i really doubt 2.0 will be much better than it is now, probably not being good enough to convince the especiallized media.

IMO 2.0 might have the relaunch sales even to a ported game, like when they launched, as example, FFIV, V, VI and chrono trigger to PSone.

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True to an extent, but I believe SE and gaming sites will look upon it as "FFXIV 2.0" and not just FFXIV in general. It will probably get new reviews from gaming sites, because this is technically a new game we are getting. Of course people will come in and try to make it look bad, but as long as SE pushes it as a fresh look to the game, then I can see numbers coming in. I know PS3 sales at least will be high.

Very unlikely, at least initially. The game has been branded, and even with an absolutely stellar V2.0 it would take quite a while after release for people to change their mind.
Besides, with the XIII-2 numbers being as low as they are, lower even than the last "Tales of" game, there's another resurgence of people writing off SE alltogether.

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Originally Posted by Naqaj

Very unlikely, at least initially. The game has been branded, and even with an absolutely stellar V2.0 it would take quite a while after release for people to change their mind.
Besides, with the XIII-2 numbers being as low as they are, lower even than the last "Tales of" game, there's another resurgence of people writing off SE alltogether.

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I agree. I have friends who played at launch, and they just have a bitter taste in their mouth from it. They acknowledge the game is growing, becoming better, and looks very nice and has a nice direction... But none of them are ever picking it up again, regardless of how many kinks they hammer out.

Square Enix has a fresh start to impress the the world, and the fans with Final Fantasy 15

13-2 and 14 (2.0) are sequels/damage control. 13 wasn't well received generally speaking, and considered one of the weaker main releases, and 13-2 is riding on that set foundation. 14-2 is going to apply to a niche market, clueless casuals, and those who have it in their heart to reconsider. It'll also attract a small percentage who will genuinely find the trailer/trial cool and the ball will start rolling from there steadily increasing user base.

I'm not an expert industry analyst, but this is about how I see it.

thing is any1 playing through from now till 2.0 will get a free download. so would we count in the first week of sale figures? if not then how ever much the figures are, this will not be an accurate number of players

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Originally Posted by grandm

thing is any1 playing through from now till 2.0 will get a free download. so would we count in the first week of sale figures? if not then how ever much the figures are, this will not be an accurate number of players

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PC sales will be really low. It is when the PS3 version is released is when you will see the numbers starting to come in.

I think that looking at the population instead of the amount of sales would make more sense to see the outcome of 2.0, considering a lot of FF14 PC copies have already been sold, and when people get a free trial to try out something new/completely changed they usually don't give up the chance of doing so.

PS3 will certainly see some success. Many people have waited for the PS3 release. Some who got sick of waiting did get the PC version though because they didn't want to get too far behind. Perhaps those people will end up with both versions. There is something to be said about playing games on your 50" TV.

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Originally Posted by Holy_Dragoon

PS3 will certainly see some success. Many people have waited for the PS3 release. Some who got sick of waiting did get the PC version though because they didn't want to get too far behind. Perhaps those people will end up with both versions. There is something to be said about playing games on your 50" TV.

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i know that is why i play on my laptop with a HD cable yay. (although my first laptop didn't like FF14 as much as i did, and i had to upgrade, that cost a pretty penny for one game lol)

2 different genre, if it beats xiv to anything it would be releasing a ps3 version

I dont see PS3 being the holy grail, it will bring a few and a few will drop over, but its not going to be the big deal breaker, it just isnt the right situation or has the correct conditions to do so. Take DC Univerise, its PC version outsells and overpopulated its PS3 version.

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I dont see PS3 being the holy grail, it will bring a few and a few will drop over, but its not going to be the big deal breaker, it just isnt the right situation or has the correct conditions to do so. Take DC Univerise, its PC version outsells and overpopulated its PS3 version.

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Requirements on PC are not as extreme on DC Universe. A fair amount of people don't play FFXIV simply because they lack the PC to run it.

People who already bought FFXIV, will get a Free Downloadable copy of FFXIV 2.0. which means 500k of the people who bought it.. won't have to pay for the game again, only players that havent bought FFXIV in general will have to buy 2.0.. and most of the people are waiting for PS3 release ( i'll be getting PS3 version of this game). So really.. honestly.. Sales won't play a part in the Total Population of the game, since most people that are interested in the game, have already bought it already. (E3 presentation, may spark some interest to new players, and we could see a influx of new players upon 2.0 =))

A console franchise's popularity in a nation with an overwhelming majority of console players being directly compared to a comic franchise-based game of a genre commonly thought as exclusive to PC platform in the West?

Well, all I can say: what an accurate comparison you've got there sir.

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Originally Posted by Velhart

Requirements on PC are not as extreme on DC Universe. A fair amount of people don't play FFXIV simply because they lack the PC to run it.

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That is not a good excuse lol the requires for this game are not bad, the game just isnt optimized well at all, I can run it completely fine on my 5470 laptop which is very low, a $50 desktop card is better lol. Not to mention DC Universe is Free, likely has a bigger audience, has had no major fails like XIV did have, it has more content and with all that its not sitting high on either platforms.

It has a chance in doing so is SE advertises it well enough. However, if SE's marketing strategy includes just releasing that E3 trailer, putting out no commercials or other sources of ads, I expect XIV to flop horribly.

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Originally Posted by KamikazeMan

It has a chance in doing so is SE advertises it well enough. However, if SE's marketing strategy includes just releasing that E3 trailer, putting out no commercials or other sources of ads, I expect XIV to flop horribly.

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FF13-2 was advertised out of the ass and still only hit 1/3rd of its original sales. If we factor that to XIV that makes v2 hitting roughly 200k sales. Little short of 500k that x-2 did (and did just in Japan, where as v2 be world wide)

But someone already mentioned this, it doesnt matter, everyone here is getting it free only sales will be ps3 version and new players, which is not going to be 500k-1m.

Well, if Final Fantasy versus XIII releases before the PS3 version of FFXIV in December 2012, Yoshi-P could perhaps workout a promotion deal to bundle the FFXIV beta code or throw in some exclusive items with the purchase of FFvXIII. I think that will work fine.

I believe that RPG titles generally do better in (initial) sales than MMO ones would. However, MMOs have the potential to generate more revenue in the long term.

So FFXIII-2 will likely outsell FFXIV, but FFXIV could still end up making more money.

Xiv currently has a pretty big black eye as far as most people are concerned, square really has there work cut out for them getting the game out of the hole its in with popular opinion.

They are really going to have to knock it into orbit with 2.0 to turn it around to be frank and honest.

I'll get xiii-2, beat it in a week. Then play xiv for a few more years. Xiv wins I guess