Blm leylines button bloat

So for between the lines the buttons should be combined I feel but until then i use this macro and it works fairly well.

/micon "ley lines"
/merror
/ac "ley lines"
/ac "between the lines"



Uses lines if off Cooldown, then every press after that will zip you back to your lines.

Actually seems to require a double tap to activate btl

We don't have that many buttons to push, but if that macro helps float your boat, sure go for it. I have a personal dislike for macros like that because of the delay in them. I find it quicker to hit between the lines with no macro.

I''m with you on that one man. I will use this and shift another one of spells on to my primary crossbar. Everyone talks about the delay associated with macros but how much is the delay associated with me pushing L2 then R2 then verifying that the button push is on screen versus having more of the quick use skills up front (and how many times have I hit R2 then L2 in my quest make it fast. I have both of my aggro mitigating skills in one macro command also. It is worth it for me to have less buttons to be aware. I think it is all up to personal play style and preference. They have an old saying the military and it goes "Slow is smooth and smooth is fast". I fall in to that category. Thanks for the post.

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Originally Posted by Ferrasper

We don't have that many buttons to push, but if that macro helps float your boat, sure go for it. I have a personal dislike for macros like that because of the delay in them. I find it quicker to hit between the lines with no macro.

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I mean, it's likely going to happen down the line. It might as well happen now.

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Originally Posted by luckystrikes

I''m with you on that one man. I will use this and shift another one of spells on to my primary crossbar. Everyone talks about the delay associated with macros but how much is the delay associated with me pushing L2 then R2 then verifying that the button push is on screen versus having more of the quick use skills up front (and how many times have I hit R2 then L2 in my quest make it fast. I have both of my aggro mitigating skills in one macro command also. It is worth it for me to have less buttons to be aware. I think it is all up to personal play style and preference. They have an old saying the military and it goes "Slow is smooth and smooth is fast". I fall in to that category. Thanks for the post.

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My SGts like to say that one a lot, but I digress. I think it's easier for me since I prefer to play on the M&K which allows quicker access. Even on the PS4, I preferred m&K over the controller.

The only problem I have with macroing stuff like this on blm is that it's really hard to weave a macro between spells that take longer than the gcd to cast. I had a macro like this for a bit, but after it proved to be too unreliable i went back to two separate hotkeys.

The Leylines button should just turn into the Between the Lines button whenever it's up.

I would also love it if Enochian/FireIV/BlizzardIV worked like they do in PvP and were just all the same button. Since you can effectively see Enochian's remaining cooldown based on the progress of the Foul bar, you don't need Enochian's icon to remain visible while Enochian itself is active.

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Originally Posted by tetsuo666

Both are ability's so they don't invoke the GCD macros fire them off exactly like a button press, there is no delay you should only avoid using spells in macros (they don't get spell queued while the gcd is running in a macro), ability's like this are fine though.

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There remains the issue of not being able to queue them. For example, because I use "Aetherial Manipulation" <mo>, I can't press it near the end of my cast and expect it to work.

For this reason I keep Between the Lines on its own hotkey; it weaves smoothly and eliminates potential for user error.

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Originally Posted by tetsuo666

Ability's are off-gcd and don't use the spell queue at all (they simply fail when you are in animation, macroed or not).
So dunno what you are talking about.

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There is indeed a queue for all skills, on or off the GCD. If you click on Ley Lines when something like Blizzard IV is about to finish casting, Ley Lines will be queued and activate at the next available opportunity. If you put Ley Lines in a macro, then you have to wait for the animation lock of Blizzard IV to finish completely before activating the macro will have any effect.

Been using a macro like this since I got the skills, been working fine ever since.

I get that for some people (expecially keyboard and mouse) it may not be a big deal but for others who are still learning and such this is just another optional resource. I use it and it's helped a bit but to each their own.

I do like the idea someone proposed about replacing Enoch with its pvp counterpart, that would be great now with the changes.

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Originally Posted by tetsuo666

Ability's are off-gcd and don't use the spell queue at all (they simply fail when you are in animation, macroed or not).
So dunno what you are talking about.

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oGCDs can be queued behind hard casts if not macro'ed and if activated near the end of the cast; macroing them is fine, but your cast must be finished before it can be activated.

It's not any kind of game-breaking difference, of course, but it is a consideration.

Yeah, I don't see queuing btl or spamming the macro during cast making much difference in most content

You should reverse the two lines in your macro. I think that'll help your double-tap issue.

/micon "Ley Lines"
/ac "Between the Lines" <me>
/ac "Ley Lines" <me>

Between the Lines is only available when Ley Lines is already active, so only one of the two abilities in the macro can ever chosen in the same time frame. This order will skip the check on whether Ley Lines is off cool-down.

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Originally Posted by Saevel

You should reverse the two lines in your macro. I think that'll help your double-tap issue.

/micon "Ley Lines"
/ac "Between the Lines" <me>
/ac "Ley Lines" <me>

Between the Lines is only available when Ley Lines is already active, so only one of the two abilities in the macro can ever chosen in the same time frame. This order will skip the check on whether Ley Lines is off cool-down.

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I went back and forth on that for a moment. Wasnt sure if it would add a delay checking if btl could even be activated at that point. And if it did id rather have a mini delay on port back to lines rather than on initial drop of lines in first place.

If it doesn't matter I'll switch to your way. I use the /merror to remove red error texts if ability can't be used.