What the hell is it with instances?!

Why are they back?! Finally the game was fun again and DOABLE cause all was ONE area and now the damn instances are back? And SE doesn't have to give me the 'congested worlds' bull crap cause the server I am on is not crowded AT ALL. You could easily put all players in an area in one instance without the need for the damn instances.

These instances do not help at all. They are a pain in the ass. When in a party you can't even teleport normally cause you will be dropped in different instances. GET OFF IT! There was no need AT ALL to put them back.

Because people camping Lochs waiting for Ixion to spawn was causing trouble for some servers, why all the areas needed the instance, I got no clue.

On some worlds it actually was needed, reports of people unable to access the lochs due to people camping the Ixion fate are around the forums somewhere. Now, your server might not be congested.. however I'm willing to bet that the reason you got instances anyway is because it's easier to apply instances to all worlds and be done with it rather than arbitrarily cherry-pick which worlds do and do not.

instances are back because of the new dungeon that dropped which requires those maps. It'll die down soon

I am on NA Siren, that server is not crowded at all. Even if people would camp anywhere, they would all fit in the same instance cause not everyone does it on the same time. Sure a player or 8 might but even then there is no need. If they HAVE to put instances, at least drop the party normally in the same instance, but even that they can't do....

Instances are back so people can do hunt bills, gathering and MSQ in the Loch when Ixion spawns since the single instance gets congested and un-enterable even on low pop servers.

Then they should put the damn instance on LOCH only. Not the rest. This is ridiculous. Or you know work on the system and recognize parties. It would already help to just be able to party with friends and be dropped in the same instance at all times.

They probably didn't have the time or resources to make it lochs only. It's a quick fix to address the Ixion situation. I'm sure they will look into a per zone system in the future but Yoshi only has so many dev resources to deploy. So it was: quick fix, no fix or fix it in patch 4.x

While not perfect, it addressed the immediate issue as quickly as possible. Let's be happy they were able to do what they did to address it.

Hyperia, i dont think it was a resources issue more of a why burn money asking for a custom setup when there's already one done previously.

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Originally Posted by Anathaer

Then they should put the damn instance on LOCH only. Not the rest. This is ridiculous. Or you know work on the system and recognize parties. It would already help to just be able to party with friends and be dropped in the same instance at all times.

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you do realize they would have to burn more money to pay the server people to set that up, where as due to having the previous setup put back in place they dont have to pay as much as they would for the new adjustments.

besides is it really that much of a problem, if you're aiming for the tiger mount from A and S rank bosses?

You don't like round-the-clock hunts?

3 a ranks? 3 foxes? 3 Ixions? I'll take it.

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Originally Posted by tymora

You don't like round-the-clock hunts?

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Yeah, this is a benefit if you're in the hunt community!

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Originally Posted by Catwho

Yeah, this is a benefit if you're in the hunt community!

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Kind of a double edged sword. Yes, more hunts. Yes more chance of people pulling before you can get there if you're in the wrong instance(which is their right to do, as it isn't against the ToS).
But, it is a risk that people will need to take.

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Originally Posted by Hyperia

They probably didn't have the time or resources to make it lochs only. It's a quick fix to address the Ixion situation. I'm sure they will look into a per zone system in the future but Yoshi only has so many dev resources to deploy. So it was: quick fix, no fix or fix it in patch 4.x

While not perfect, it addressed the immediate issue as quickly as possible. Let's be happy they were able to do what they did to address it.

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I could have sworn we were promised more resources when that godawful 15 finally came out. I guess not though.

I would care a lot less about instances if they didn't SPREAD PARTY MEMBERS ACROSS INSTANCES WHEN TELEPORTING TO A ZONE!!!!!!

THAT'S GOT TO BE THE STUPIDEST THING TO EVER HAPPEN IN A MMO

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Originally Posted by vio_p

Hyperia, i dont think it was a resources issue more of a why burn money asking for a custom setup when there's already one done previously.

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This makes the most sense to me. Working in this field, setting up multiple instances for areas, and applying them as a whole to the entire cluster would be the easiest, and cheapest option.

You don't find it preferable? Neither does SE, which is why they don't keep them running like that for long. They'll go away sooner than you would think, and for now, while I've run into moments where I needed to double check my instances for partnering with a group or friend, it hasn't been game-breaking.

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Originally Posted by AsbelLahnt

it hasn't been game-breaking.

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Exactly! It's like a mosquito bite. A slight irritant.

I'm glad the instances are back.

However I certainly don't like the way the members of a party can be teleported in different instances. That's annoying.

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Originally Posted by AlphaFox

Because people camping Lochs waiting for Ixion to spawn was causing trouble for some servers, why all the areas needed the instance, I got no clue.

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Players on big realms complaining about the Lochs. I wonder why they implemented instancing on all areas if the Lochs is the only one affected?

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Originally Posted by Chiramu

Players on big realms complaining about the Lochs. I wonder why they implemented instancing on all areas if the Lochs is the only one affected?

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Think about the dev's past track record with "fixing" shit. You really are wondering? lmao

Hunts have been a mess since it was introduced. Why not screw it up even more with these dumbass instance layers? Please look forward to it.

The real problem with instances is not that there's instances, but that we cannot easily switch between them. Instances work fine in many games, because those games allow you to swap at will.

We can't switch between instances; we're not intelligently grouped into the same instance as party members; instances are present by default rather than dynamically added as a version of the zone gets crowded; instances are present in all Stormblood zones rather than just the Lochs.

All in all, about what I've come to expect from the dev team when it comes to technical measures: utterly half-assed.

I have no problem with instances if they actually give us the option to select which instance to go to when teleporting. Having to move to another map and back to select the instance to go to is a terrible design.

Honestly, it should go away first until they implement such fix.