Weavers 40 Items + required for a single craft

So...
am I the only one annoyed from the high amount of mats required to make stuff with weaver?

Lets just take Bloodhempen Brais of Striking:
3x Bloodhempen Cloth (3x3 Yarn (36 Bloodhemp)
1x Bloodhempen Yarn (4 Bloodhemp)
1x doesnt really matter

Other Crafting jobs usually work with around 12 Items.

Not sure about how i feel about this....

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Originally Posted by Sairii

So...
am I the only one annoyed from the high amount of mats required to make stuff with weaver?

Lets just take Bloodhempen Brais of Striking:
3x Bloodhempen Cloth (3x3 Yarn (36 Bloodhemp)
1x Bloodhempen Yarn (4 Bloodhemp)
1x doesnt really matter

Other Crafting jobs usually work with around 12 Items.

Not sure about how i feel about this....

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This is why my weaver hit 70 first and I'm not even specializing in it.

Another thing would be the levequests. No good ones at low level and all require items that costs alot in terms of bloodhemp.
Just for 10 leves I would need 400 bloodhemp. And 360 for a triple.......
Not sure if they get better ... at least i do hope so....

At 64 You can turn in Kudzu Thread. It's 4 Kudzu Vines to make 1 thread.

Levequest - Of Great Import (I think)
1x Kudzu Thread = 260k xp

This one is also repeatable, so if you hand in 3 HQ threads its about 1.6mil xp. I admit, I bought some from market board between 10k-14k on my server.

I haven't done any WVR turn ins and hit 2 levels just by doing the GC turn in and grinding the Bloodhemp which were easy to get. Once I got to 62 I started grinding Ruby Cotton and gained another level. I'm sure if I turn a fair amount into cloth and use a commercial manual HQing the mats I'll get to 64. Then all I have to worry about is the Kudzu thread due to the leve. Wasn't as bad as I thought it would be.

Not exactly anything new. Wasn't so long ago (for me) that I remember burning through stacks of cotton. And then stacks of flax.

Weaver (and I would say to a lesser extent, armorers) suffer a bit excessively in having multi-step mats to craft. Most of the others, it's just craft the mats, craft the gear. Logs to lumber, lumber is used for gear. Hides to leather, leather for gear.

Don't really expect them to change it, though. Maybe if they would just cut down on the number of cloths required for anything.

Ye I've also been grinding bloodhemp string and cloth.
Also did some levequests with items i bought from npc caus on my server 1 bloodhemp cloth = 20k and 1 levequest item bought from npc = 19k...

For endgame noone cares how much hemp u need but leveling..... ughhh

Highly recommend lvling wvr and btn side by side, the absurd item cost kinda works in your favour exp wise, also hurts your wallet less :(

The part that always hurt for me was crystals and shards. Many of the recipes have a 2:1 ratio for Lightning crystals to traditional material. It explains why most crystals are in the 100-150 Gil range when Lightning are between 600 and 800 depending on your server.

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Originally Posted by Ksenia

The part that always hurt for me was crystals and shards. Many of the recipes have a 2:1 ratio for Lightning crystals to traditional material. It explains why most crystals are in the 100-150 Gil range when Lightning are between 600 and 800 depending on your server.

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Yep. Lightning crystals are expensive, but easily farmable if you have miner/botanist or both. Wind crystals are even more expensive and is my biggest problem atm.

i think you can gather 2-3k crystals per hour by using aetherial reduction

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Originally Posted by ServerCollaps

i think you can gather 2-3k crystals per hour by using aetherial reduction

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I don't know if that many but Aetherial reduction is the way you are supposed to farm them.

main reason why i absolutely DREAD doing my crafting dailies. i'm 66 in all crafts excluding CUL and the amount of raw materials it takes to make ONE item is absurd. meanwhile, i'm leveling crafters on my alts who are both below lvl30 and silently wish high level crafting was similar... i mean, i get it; higher levels equals the more you're kind of expected to put in. granted the recipes themselves are easy but its just the sheer volume of everything... not even going to try to complete all my crafting log entries.

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Originally Posted by killstein

not even going to try to complete all my crafting log entries.

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I understand your frustration. Towards the end of HW I went and completed all of the "I Made That V! _____" achievements, for the golden glowing MH tools. So, I know how hard (or, in some cases, easy) the Crafting Log can be.

Personally though, I expect another level of the I Made That achievements. That's why I'm leveling my crafters with a combination of the Crafting Log and Leves. ARR gave us rings. HW gave us MH tools equivalent to the best scrip tools. SB will give us ... who knows?

My advice is just to be sure to keep your Retainers busy gathering stuff that you are going to need. Whether it is mob drops (DoW) or fish or stuff obtained from mining/botany nodes, or just plain ol shards/crystals ...

FWIW, making everything by hand (or QS'ing when not seeking HQ) I'm finding that Weaver and Goldsmith are closest to 70 after completing the level 66 and 67 recipes in the crafting log. Culinarian is lagging badly, and is the biggest Leve user to keep up. Alchemist is the second biggest Leve user, followed by Carpenter and Armorer. Since I'm making at least one of everything anyway, I may as well hand them in for the exp, even if that means crafting something thrice instead of once.

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Originally Posted by Roth_Trailfinder

I understand your frustration.

FWIW, making everything by hand (or QS'ing when not seeking HQ) I'm finding that Weaver and Goldsmith are closest to 70 after completing the level 66 and 67 recipes in the crafting log. Culinarian is lagging badly, and is the biggest Leve user to keep up. Alchemist is the second biggest Leve user, followed by Carpenter and Armorer. Since I'm making at least one of everything anyway, I may as well hand them in for the exp, even if that means crafting something thrice instead of once.

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CUL and ALC have the more friendly collectibles in terms of mat costs. Craftsman's Tea and Baklava.

Eh, unless there's a scrip item I need, I don't bother much with Collectibles for DoH exp. The reason is fairly simple, in that you get some 2-3 times the exp for HQ'ing the item and handing it in as a Leve than you get for making the item a Collectible and handing it in that way.

100k for filling the Quality bar on an item (with Rested and stuff). Then get another 1000k for handing it in for a leve. 1100k exp total.
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100k for filling the Quality bar on an item (with Rested and stuff). Then get 370k for handing it in as a Collectible. 470k exp total.

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Originally Posted by Roth_Trailfinder

Eh, unless there's a scrip item I need, I don't bother much with Collectibles for DoH exp. The reason is fairly simple, in that you get some 2-3 times the exp for HQ'ing the item and handing it in as a Leve than you get for making the item a Collectible and handing it in that way.

100k for filling the Quality bar on an item (with Rested and stuff). Then get another 1000k for handing it in for a leve. 1100k exp total.
VS
100k for filling the Quality bar on an item (with Rested and stuff). Then get 370k for handing it in as a Collectible. 470k exp total.

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In HW I leveled a lot of classes using 40 durability collectibles. Getting material for them was much easier and the quality requirement for turn in were low enough it was all but impossible to fail collectible range even with NQ material. The trade off being, more crafting but it just seemed less of a nightmare to gather 300 raw star ruby or 500 Titanium Ore.