Best Class to Jump Pot?

Random opinion thread. Discussion came up this morning. Assuming you only had a single class leveled, to 70, which class would you Jump Pot?

Arcanist - two roles, one class.

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Originally Posted by SendohJin

Arcanist - two roles, one class.

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Whoa.:eek: Winner winner chicken dinner.

I would argue this slightly. Arcanist can queue as heals, and get both jobs through it. Seems a pure DPS would be better. Perhaps I'm wrong.

Arcanist for sure.

Personally, none of them.

If you want to jump pot for best utility, probably Arcanist as stated multiple times.

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Originally Posted by Kethic

I would argue this slightly. Arcanist can queue as heals, and get both jobs through it. Seems a pure DPS would be better. Perhaps I'm wrong.

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SMN is a pure DPS, if you jump Arcanist, you just have to level a tank which queues even faster than heals in everything except 24 man raids (in which case you can play your Arcanist anyways).

no DPS job is so much better than SMN that you have to have it.

if your goal is to level all jobs to 70 the fastest and you have 1 Lv 70 job skip, yes you would use it on a DPS. but your original premise never stated this.

my personal objective is to be as useful as quickly as possible and do everything else leisurely.

I jumped Arcanist, purely because I'd never level it otherwise and it's a two for one deal.

If you do so: You'll still have to unlock and go do all the SCH quests, but it's very trivial.

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Originally Posted by BlastHardcheese

If you do so: You'll still have to unlock and go do all the SCH quests, but it's very trivial.

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Which is how I leveled my SMN. Went through the leveling solely as SMN, then did all the SCH quests once I was level 60.

I mean, on a personal level it would probably be NIN, because it's easily my least favorite job. It's already 60 so a moot point, but there you have it.

Any of the ARR starting jobs would do, though, as they gain 59 levels from a jump compared to 30 (DRK/MCH/AST) or merely 10 (SAM/RDM, though if I recall you can't use pots on them anyway).

Any job you will never use. xD

I would actually say Arcanist isn't a good choice because you can grind it to 30 easily and switch to Scholar, which has near instant queues. My picks would be either any job you want at 60 but simply dislike playing or any ARR DPS.

A class you're willing to learn and play.

None. Keep your money and level the class/job. You will learn better how to use it as you level. But, if you are insistent on it I would do one of the dps classes/jobs. Tanks and healers have near instant queues outside of PoTD, so are a lot easier to level without jump potions. Dps it would be PoTD or pvp only as othet dungeons would be long queues.

How about none of them?

Jump Pot people ending up in DF is not fun. You don't get the newbie bonus for carrying them through the dungeon and since they got to skip a huge glut of content, they never learned about things like Stack mechanics and they usually show up to your run entirely clueless. And of course, no Newbie Bonus makes it even worse.

An actual newbie, you'd get the bonus AND they've actually gone through the previous content somehow and so they should at least have somewhat of a clue on mechanics that were present in previous fights. Usually. Not always.

But after carrying their butt through another DF... we at least get the Bonus.

Not so, with a Jump Pot person.

And also, oftentimes a Jump Pot person does a horrible job playing their character as they have zero practice. I mean, jump into Floor 51 of PotD on a new class... that's what Jump Pot people get, but only worse.

DRG.
Kappa.

Buy a jump pot for the job you hate the most, that way you spend less time leveling it to cap

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Originally Posted by Maeka

WHOA.

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I must be odd then cause I jumped my monk and I also watched videos and practiced openers and rotations on the dummies until I felt ok going into dungeons. I feel like ALOT of people did what I do and actually looked up whatever class they are using. Noone complained to me how I played my monk in the content nor was I ever kicked. Hell most people who look at my profile in any dungeon and found out I jumped are shocked and I end up with all the comms in the dungeon. Not all of us are bad lazy assholes D:

My vote is for arcanist also.

Only jump if you intend on learning the job otherwise and willing to practice a bit on before diving headfirst into the level 60 content.

I had a jumped WAR in Qarn last night that was the exact opposite of these nightmare scenario players that can't tell their butt from a hole in the ground while still assuming they are an expert at their job.

He was trying to run a bunch of lower dungeons to get his bearings first. He asked questions, we nicely answered. We explained bosses and other mechanics just like we would for any newbie player. It was a great run. Honestly, one of the most pleasant runs I've had in a while.

Be like that tank.

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Originally Posted by sonicadventures

I must be odd then cause I jumped my monk and I also watched videos and practiced openers and rotations on the dummies until I felt ok going into dungeons. I feel like ALOT of people did what I do and actually looked up whatever class they are using. Noone complained to me how I played my monk in the content nor was I ever kicked. Hell most people who look at my profile in any dungeon and found out I jumped are shocked and I end up with all the comms in the dungeon. Not all of us are bad lazy assholes D:

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You are the exception. Still glad to hear there are at least some people who seriously try to learn their job.

I would say Dragoon if ring of thorns exist.

But it doesn't. So I would choose MCH! SIMPLY because it isn't flashy enough for me until 64.

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Originally Posted by Lelila38

You are the exception. Still glad to hear there are at least some people who seriously try to learn their job.

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Yeah, I recently had a DRK in The Vault who had used a jump potion. I'm usually a very calm, patient person, but my blood was boiling pretty quickly on that run. It was a nightmare. I was having to give the DRK basic tanking tips that a player in Halitali should have already learned.

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Originally Posted by Maeka

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I jumped an AST and literally learned how to play it better than most DF healers in like an hour.

I wouldn't use it since leveling is quite fast already.

But if I need to decide, I would pick drg, especially if you're looking to raid later on.

Me think. if DPS players never use tank or healer. Want fast level tank/healer, buy for jump potion.

It's really bad idea? If need to learn before using rotations.

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Originally Posted by BlastHardcheese

I jumped Arcanist, purely because I'd never level it otherwise and it's a two for one deal.

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I may be missing something here, but what was the point then? :'D

This was fun. Thank you.

Seems arcanist and dragoon got the most votes.

I definitely understand the frustration with players that can't fulfill the expectations of their roles. I do think some people have too high of an expectation of skill in general, but I certainly would expect even a jump pot player to learn to use every ability on their toolbar with some effectiveness.

As for dungeon mechanics... You know, there are some dungeons I just forget? If it wasn't for roulettes, I wouldn't have set foot in then in 3 years? If you're running DREX, then yeah, they should know the mechanics, but I'm not inclined to get bent out of shape over leveling or msq or trials ignorance.

Anyway, this entire thread was mostly academic. Thanks for the feedback.

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Originally Posted by Naberrie

Yeah, I recently had a DRK in The Vault who had used a jump potion. I'm usually a very calm, patient person, but my blood was boiling pretty quickly on that run. It was a nightmare. I was having to give the DRK basic tanking tips that a player in Halitali should have already learned.

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Had the same with a healer when I was tanking. I had to actually tell them how to Swiftcast + Raise, never mind the associated troubles of being barely healed at deaths door multiple times.

To answer the OP though, Arcanist without a doubt. It's basically 2 jobs for one potion. Two different roles as well, so you can enjoy healing and DPS both. No other job offers this diversity.

Crafters :p

I'd probably go with monk or ninja primarily because the jobs feel better when they have their speed buffs. Both feel like a slog until then.