UI (Inventory)

I know the UI system did get some updates and it plays a little better, but still needs a lot of work. I know there is a lot of important topic out there, but everyone is missing out the UI inventory window problems on scrolling to find my items. Or maybe its just me.

Does everyone notice while you are trying to do all the jobs and end up with junks of crafting, harvesting regular materials and +1 +2 +3 that filled up your inventory even though they expanded it to 100 slot? And you have to scroll all the way down and up if you are searching items even though they are sorted? I don't think this will go away even if they give us 1,000 slot of inventory.

I have a great idea for them to make this more user friendly. Just like they give a tab bar for the crystals, money, inventory, I think they should put all the "gears" such as armor and weapons into another tab bar. And also another one for the crafting materials. And one for the food, and so on with the categories that are needed. I would suggest no more than 5-7 tabs bars.

This should be a better way for us to pick witch tab we want and don't have to scroll up and down so much. And it will be more organized also. Here is an example, they should categorizes all these to 100 slot each if needed.

Gears/Food/Crystals/Money/Crafting/Harvest

Give me your thoughts guys...:confused:

Agreed! Gear should have its own seperate inventory space. The concept of the game seems to be that you are able to switch to any class you want on the fly but well over half your inventory is taken up by weapons, tools, subs tool, and armor for each slot for tanking, magic, dps, crafting and gathering. ive managed to get all my class to about 17 so far and me and both my retainers are maxed out and I sell anything with a "+" on it right out to save space. Maybe atleast have an accessory pouch or something that all your "slotted" ring, neck, ect. gear would go into. My draw to this game is that you can be anything at all times, but the inventory system doesnt support that.

im confused. When you select gear doesnt it do just what your asking? if im equipping a main hand weapon it shows only the main hand weapon gears that i have.

What i want is something that makes me sell all my stuff to NPC like i check 20 items and then select "yes ready to sell" then i sell 20 items at once. that way i do not have to wait for the lag/loading with each item for 100 lines....

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Originally Posted by DNO

im confused. When you select gear doesnt it do just what your asking? if im equipping a main hand weapon it shows only the main hand weapon gears that i have.

What i want is something that makes me sell all my stuff to NPC like i check 20 items and then select "yes ready to sell" then i sell 20 items at once. that way i do not have to wait for the lag/loading with each item for 100 lines....

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On your first paragraph, I am sorry to confuse you. But I did not meant when you are equipping gears. What I meant on the UI Inventory only. This is only when you go to your Inventory and view all of your items.

And I agree with your last paragraph. I would like to have a selection like you said to sell items all at once.

Agreed agian! I think some of these things are made for the user to take up extra time so that people don't advance too quickly. SE has been making games long enough to know how to make such transactions quick and painless so i can't help but think making them very slow is intentional.

new tabs would surely atleast remove some of this endless scrolling.
what i've learned in the last 6 months for sure, don't store everything you find and "may" need in the future.
just farm it when you need it or find yourself cleaning your storage every week XD

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Originally Posted by Celtodeno

Agreed agian! I think some of these things are made for the user to take up extra time so that people don't advance too quickly. SE has been making games long enough to know how to make such transactions quick and painless so i can't help but think making them very slow is intentional.

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No, they just went the quick and easy route for launch. They've been re-designing things as quickly as they can - ie. see crafting UI improvements for example.

When you first build a UI, it is often easiest to just display things however they look in the database. It's quick and easy and you don't have to worry about the problem of "how do I put the right, decision worthy information on this screen?" - because that requires critically thinking about the action being performed and what is a smart way to visualize that data and then build a process flow that makes sense. Instead they took the easy route and just vomited back a single database table per screen, and then have lots of buttons and further screens each attached to their own database table.

They have started to make progress on actually thinking through some of these and have made improvements in many of the patches, but there is still a ways to go.

Great idea Drakong.

I still have not figured out how to move between Tab to Tab using a controller.

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Originally Posted by Vockroth

Great idea Drakong.

I still have not figured out how to move between Tab to Tab using a controller.

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You should try all your buttons that you set it up to see which one work during inside the inventory menu. My works with the L2 and R2 where I set it up. Its on the controller alright, if you set all of your buttons on the controller.

its whatever buttons u map ur "ctrl" macros with iirc. i have mines set up to L2 and R2 which scrolls between menu tabs

i agree that weapons,armor, etc. need there own seperate inventory tab, however what is it that your using to differentiate between crafting and harvesting? is harvesting the basic materials while crafting is parts? and food having its own tab is a bit iffy, while all the other listed tabs easily need to be there with around 100 slots each(especially for ppl who like to craft and harvest there own stuff even if just for the sake of self repairs) food probably doesnt need anywhere near as many slots. but then if you dont give it its own tab where are you going to put it?

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Originally Posted by Sirrush

i agree that weapons,armor, etc. need there own seperate inventory tab, however what is it that your using to differentiate between crafting and harvesting? is harvesting the basic materials while crafting is parts? and food having its own tab is a bit iffy, while all the other listed tabs easily need to be there with around 100 slots each(especially for ppl who like to craft and harvest there own stuff even if just for the sake of self repairs) food probably doesnt need anywhere near as many slots. but then if you dont give it its own tab where are you going to put it?

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You do have a point there, I was just throwing ideas out there without thinking that food and other harvesting are the same or similar. For example if they could put all raw materials such as harvesting into one inventory tab. That is including fishes, carrots, etc... that are raw and not cook yet. This should take out the Food inventory tab. But if it was mining items such as ores, then its different. So here is what I come up with after your thoughts.

Gear tab-100 slot> armors, weapons, accessories, and any other equip items
Potion tab-50 slot> HP potions, MP potions, all alchemy potions, and any other potions materials
Crystal tab-50 slot> all crystals, shards, clusters and any other different types of crystals
Craft tab-50 slot> only crafted parts, such as handles, sword blades, etc...
Food-50 slot> all fishes, all vegetables, all fruits, all crops, any eatable food items
Wood-50 slot> all logs and any wood crafting items except parts such as handle
Metal-50 slot> all Blacksmith and Armor materials except parts such as sword blade
Fur-50 slot-> all tanners working materials furs, leathers, except parts such as leather shoulder
Bone-50 slot-> all bones materials such as scales, shell, etc.. except parts for crafting

Will this is 9 tabs, but this is breaking it down the categories. what do you guys think?

to many tabs and options take up space. And it can be more irritating. Play games like elder scrolls where they do shuffle stuff into tabs for sort puposes. I don't think SE needs to fix a players problem personally. More so if it taking up hdd space. This would be more of a reason not to have class spesific gear so you are not carrying around a ton of armor, just a few different weapons. Weapons should give stats for your job while armor should do a lil of everything.

Sorry but I don't think this is a good idea as it takes up a bit to much hdd space. And can be more tiresome having to go through several tabs just to sell things.

Thanks, I use a Logitech Netplay PS2 Keyboard/Controller that was designed fro FFXI on PS2. It lays flat in my keyboard tray and I work the controls from the top. Out of those front buttons I really only use L1 for autorun. I will have to give it a shot when we can get back on. Thanks!

Sticking to the thread, Drakong, Great Idea. LoL

Agreed. That would be really convenient ^^

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Originally Posted by Drakong

Gear tab-100 slot> armors, weapons, accessories, and any other equip items
Potion tab-50 slot> HP potions, MP potions, all alchemy potions, and any other potions materials
Crystal tab-50 slot> all crystals, shards, clusters and any other different types of crystals
Craft tab-50 slot> only crafted parts, such as handles, sword blades, etc...
Food-50 slot> all fishes, all vegetables, all fruits, all crops, any eatable food items
Wood-50 slot> all logs and any wood crafting items except parts such as handle
Metal-50 slot> all Blacksmith and Armor materials except parts such as sword blade
Fur-50 slot-> all tanners working materials furs, leathers, except parts such as leather shoulder
Bone-50 slot-> all bones materials such as scales, shell, etc.. except parts for crafting

Will this is 9 tabs, but this is breaking it down the categories. what do you guys think?

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Wait, you want 500 inventory slots ? :S are you crazy ?

I think Wood, Metal, Fur and Bone could be consolidated to one tab tbh, maybe with individual parentheses.

I do think they need to make seperate tabs like you suggest but each tab should be subtractive and divided from an overall slot count.

Say 100 total slots which can be used across all tabs.

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Originally Posted by Jinko

Wait, you want 500 inventory slots ? :S are you crazy ?

I think Wood, Metal, Fur and Bone could be consolidated to one tab tbh, maybe with individual parentheses.

I do think they need to make seperate tabs like you suggest but each tab should be subtractive and divided from an overall slot count.

Say 100 total slots which can be used across all tabs.

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You are right, 500 slot is a bit crazy. I did think about putting all the crafting materials in one tab like you say, but I was just trying to explain my concept. I did say 5-7 tab should be enough, 9 tab is over doing it. If crafting materials was to put all together, than it should be like this.

Gear tab-50 slot / Craft tab-100 slot / Crystal tab-25 slot / Money tab-25 slot

This brings to 200 slot only, but you mostly use gear and craft tab the most, so that is really only 150 slot. Think of all the job other hardcore players keep their gears and since crafting is half the game economy, it should have its own tab slot of 100 slot at lest.

And about the select all item to sell to clean inventory should not be a problem if you only got 4 tabs to pick from.