Please don't go anywhere before I cast protect.
I would highly appreciate it, if you would wait up until I'm ready. There's no rule saying you have to mash your sprint buttons and take off running as soon as the circle disappears.
Unlike some other people, I don't have the ridiculous amounts of money to dump into SSDs, and my computer is a little older than some other peoples' computers. Sometimes it takes me a little while to load up. Sometimes I get that annoying bug where I tell it to skip cutscene, and it takes it 5-10 seconds to realize I asked it to skip the cutscene so I end up having to watch half of it anyways.
And to add to all of this, I like to actually fill my Wondrous Tails, even after Stormblood because face it. 10k gil, 30k MGP, free V materia, wind-up dolls, etc are still nice even to this day.
A lot of times, I will have the top row of my WT journal done, and I'll enter a leveling dungeon with 9 Second Chance points. When I Q up for Leveling Dungeons, I do not know if I'm going to get a 1-49, 51-59, or Stormblood dungeon. Therefore, I cannot use a 2nd Chance before going into the dungeon.
If I don't do it at the beginning of the dungeon, I am likely to forget and end up with nothing at the end.
But of course, too many groups, everybody goes running off the moment the circle disappears and I don't even get time to throw protect up. More than likely, the tank is already starting a multi-pull when I still have the WT journal open and I'm not even ready. Then it's a scramble for me to rushrushrush, blow cooldowns, etc just to keep the impatient tank alive.
Please don't do this. This is very annoying. 10-15 seconds after the circle disappears is not too much to ask.
A Healer's request to groups in dungeons:
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07-08-2017, 11:42 AMMaekaA Healer's request to groups in dungeons:
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07-08-2017, 06:16 PMFrizze
You might already know this, but just FYI. Theres a setting you can turn on to automatically skip cutscenes youve already watched. Might help you get into the dungeon a little quicker. Wont help at all with people running off.
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07-08-2017, 06:24 PMPence
Most people will wait for protect and should....it's not a big issue if they don't though, just Swift > Protect when you get to first pull.
But I think it's unreasonable to expect people to wait for you to play around with WT or anything else. -
07-08-2017, 08:40 PMBesame
All group starter buffs should cover the whole group in one shot..poor game creators.
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07-09-2017, 06:21 AMRongwayNo, the game creators are just from a country where people aren't in so much of a hurry that they can't wait three seconds for a buff before running off.Quote:
Originally Posted by Besame
This, though. Cast protect, then fiddle with your book while you're running.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pence
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07-09-2017, 07:09 AMZephyr
I long ago got fed up of tanks that can't wait 3 seconds that I stopped giving them protect if they ran off. They do that crap now they'll find themselves without protect and me unable to give it to them since I have it on macro now and can only cast it outside of battle. It's only 3 seconds that makes everyones life easier.
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07-11-2017, 12:15 AMCold_Raven
Proper etiquette of leader is to move ahead a few steps when ready, and then wait until the others start to follow before running into the rest of the dungeon.
Proper etiquette of others is to get ready and move ahead a few steps to show you're ready as quickly as possible. -
07-11-2017, 02:38 PMDamun
Well lately everyone's been in such a @#*&(ing hurry that they're doing stupid stuff, like locking out other dps from fights, only serving to actually do the exact opposite.
Seriously people, STOP DOING STUPID CRAP IN YOUR RUSH TO GET THINGS DONE, YOU'RE MAKING IT HARDER FOR OTHER PEOPLE AND YOURSELF. -
07-12-2017, 12:35 AMMaekaYeah, the whole rush mentality is just getting ridiculous.Quote:
Originally Posted by Damun
Protip: If you aren't having fun to the point you feel you must get done AS SOON AS POSSIBLE because you can't bear to stand another second in whatever dungeon you're in, just withdraw from the Duty Finder and let someone else in who actually feels like doing the content. Especially impatient DPS. Here's a hint for you impatient DPS: There's a Queue full of DPS, and if you don't really want to do the content, I'd rather kick you out of the party and get one of the many DPS who would be more appreciative that they got into a run in the first place. You spend 45 minutes waiting and the you act like an entitled spoiled brat who doesn't have time for anything. I'd rather boot you out and get someone else who is more thankful that they got a run and is willing to work with the rest of the group instead of demanding we fit to their time schedule. -
07-12-2017, 12:37 AMSpiroglyph
I'm sorry, mate, this a battle you will never win. Especially now when tanks sprinting off as soon as they're able is A Thing.
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07-14-2017, 10:39 AMMaeka*shrugs*Quote:
Originally Posted by Spiroglyph
Ain't hard to let a tank eat dirt in some of the more egregious examples, especially if they are also rude (more chance the DPS will side with the healer, if the tank is acting like a jerk). -
07-15-2017, 06:54 PMvio_p
this is kind of amusing, cos you guys are whining about people running off and the last dungeon run i did last night in aurum vale as tank, i had to ask the healer to actually use protect even when we started the dungeon. it was also kind of obvious this guy was new to healing so i didnt put any pressure on him and just asked for protect when he didnt use it.
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07-15-2017, 07:43 PMKatryn
Solution: find a reliable tank partner. The tank controls the flow of the group if things are working properly. In an ideal world we'd have time to cast protect, maybe even say hello to each other, but those bygone days of MMO sociability died with the whole LFG / DF mentality. That's the price the gaming community has paid for wanting / using such things. Everyone is expendable / replaceable for anything at any time and for any reason. It's unfortunate, but it is what it is and the only way to go backward is to find a consistent group.
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07-15-2017, 07:50 PMAlistaire
This is just another reason they need to ditch Protect. And for every tank that waits for a healer like you, there's another tank thinking that they're waiting for a healer like you but really waiting for a healer either not paying attention or expecting you to get a move on.
There's no reason not to swiftcast it on the tank while moving; when's the last time you needed swiftcast within the first minute of a dungeon? -
07-16-2017, 01:33 PMKrotoan
I don't heal, so I'm just gonna plop down a suggestion that sounds good to me. Make a macro that says in partychat "Hold still! I'm casting protect!" and hit it a couple times at the start. Personally I'll wait for the protect and other buff casts when the dungeon starts because that's how I know they go.
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07-16-2017, 01:37 PMkoichiresh
There was one run I did as a DPS for a new dungeon in SB and I was left out of two boss fights... one being the first one and the second being the final boss. (mind you I do the cutscene if I'm new to a dungeon/trial). The tank was just rush sprinting the entire thing...
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07-16-2017, 02:39 PMTinti played healer and nothing else for 3 years and i have seen plenty of tanks running off without protect. yeah, it's annoying.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zephyr
however, now i played tank and it happens from time to time that i just forgot to wait at the start for protect.
i understand both sides now.
and: as a tank i wait for protect, if i don't forget it, and i feel sorry if i remember that i should have waited for protect, if it happens that i run off without it.
but in the end i also don't care much if you don't give me protect. this is YOUR tool to make YOUR life easier. i don't have to heal me with 15% defense less. if you don't cast protect you are just punishing yourself. -
07-18-2017, 12:28 PMNarwhalShadowsun
This is a polite request to stop making posts addressing a random group of people who will never read this forum. Thank you.