Is there enough time to fix this game?

6 months have passed and what does SE have to show for it? A few new rooms in the Market wards, a weak search function, and a UI that's closer (yet so far off) to where it should have been at launch, 5 new monsters, the Coatee that all the manthras wear, and 6 or 7 side-quests that offer no incentive.

(Remember - you're supposed to wait 6 months before you review an MMO???) At this rate, I'm worried that Ishgard won't be created for another year and a half. It's possible for a new player to explore this entire tiny world in an hour or two.

SE's second and last chance at making a name for this game is the PS3 Launch when all the big reviewers re-review the game. The truth of the matter is, there are some HUGE upcoming titles that could keep the spotlight off of FFXIV's PS3 Release... That is... unless SE does something drastic, and does it fast..

The question is... is there enough time to fix this game? Will Yoshi-P pull something out of his hat and surprise us all, or will FFXIV be quashed by the competition?

There's still time. Though it's obvious that major changes or additions need to be made to salvage the game.

It's certainly never going to be a WoW killer. But if Yoshi-P keeps everything on track they should be able to make FFXIV as successful as FFXI was.

Optimistically, yes. Realistically, probably not.

Also, working on the XIV teams seems a lot like a desk job I had in college. I'd sit in front of my computer and pretend to work 6 hours a day, take a long break and then do a little work at the end of the day.

I think their is, we still have E3 in June which I expect they are going to try and have the new battle system out, as well as the dungeon they talked about in the interviews. However, I don't know if this will happen with everything going on in Japan currently, but that is to be expected. But we have a few things on the horizon for this game:
1. E3 like I said before, if they have some of the bigger changes done by that time, it would be a big marketing push and show off the game and recapture some interest.
2. The One year Anniversary - With the game rounding the one year mark, I'm sure they will try to do something fun for the players, both those in the game, and those who feel like returning to see what has happened after a year.
3. PS3 launch - This is where I think most players will fee that the game is ready, released, out of beta/alpha or whatever people want to refer to the current version as. This date (whenever it happens) will help to relaunch the game to new reviews, and a larger player base.

Anyway, their is time, and I know they are working hard. We'll see how the game shapes up after all of this, and the only one I didn't put in the top three, would be the release of the first expansion (this might coincide with the PS3 release, but for that we'll have to wait and see).

We'll have to wait and see.

Yoshi-P has been talking about reworking big things such as the UI and bttle system, which willl take a lot of time to recode so it's not really surprising we don't have a lot of new stuff rolling in.

He also said in spring the new battle system would be added to the game, however after recent events... :\

I was going to type up a serious answer but then I saw who posted this.

I think they spent too much time...

fixing progress is too slow! the Nov patch SP nerf totally killed this game and they took 2 months to fix it after a lot of players already quit

I honestly hope this game is fixed. It's my opinion that FFXI is the best MMO ever made. It just had some huge Accessibility issues that kept it from prospering. I was hoping FFXIV would be the last multiplayer game I'd have to buy for 10 years.

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Originally Posted by Arcell

I was going to type up a serious answer but then I saw who posted this.

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Exactly.

Still I can't help but wonder how someone can explore Eorzea in just two hours .....

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Originally Posted by Evenstar

Exactly.

Still I can't help but wonder how someone can explore Eorzea in just two hours .....

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its simple, just delete all the extra copypasta parts, and mesh together all the snake trails so its one large landscape, and bam, maybe even less then 2 hours.

This game is on it last leg. Games in this condition this late after release go under or go F2P.

P.S. I haven't played FFXIV in 3 months and nothing that has changed has brought me back.

Well it already went F2P and caused SE's net worth to drop 25%. Only time will, but I have the high hopes that Yoshi-P will fix this game because he HAS to.

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Originally Posted by BelgianRofl

Well it already went F2P and caused SE's net worth to drop 25%. Only time will, but I have the high hopes that Yoshi-P will fix this game because he HAS to.

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I think they mean real free to play, you know with a cash shop or some other way to generate actual revenue.

So you see a future where people will pay to play without a total over haul of everything?

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Originally Posted by Nephera

I think they mean real free to play, you know with a cash shop or some other way to generate actual revenue.

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That's what I am saying.

I mean, realistically if you played back when the game was released, and you played again now. There are only a few changes that really made a difference. More Items, smoother interface, and EXP/SP Generation. In the time that they had to make updates and changes to the game, i feel like they really aren't thinking things through. They mentioned Companies near the day of release, and haven't implicated any hint of it. They talk about how they are working to make the game better, but in reality, there has been soo little improvement.

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Originally Posted by BelgianRofl

6 months have passed and what does SE have to show for it? A few new rooms in the Market wards, a weak search function, and a UI that's closer (yet so far off) to where it should have been at launch, 5 new monsters, the Coatee that all the manthras wear, and 6 or 7 side-quests that offer no incentive.

(Remember - you're supposed to wait 6 months before you review an MMO???) At this rate, I'm worried that Ishgard won't be created for another year and a half. It's possible for a new player to explore this entire tiny world in an hour or two.

SE's second and last chance at making a name for this game is the PS3 Launch when all the big reviewers re-review the game. The truth of the matter is, there are some HUGE upcoming titles that could keep the spotlight off of FFXIV's PS3 Release... That is... unless SE does something drastic, and does it fast..

The question is... is there enough time to fix this game? Will Yoshi-P pull something out of his hat and surprise us all, or will FFXIV be quashed by the competition?

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At this moment SE is reacting to the communities "Need to fix" issues. Making the game playable to the hundreds of thousands of players who are over the hype; is in the distant future.

we got lots off time, as long as they dont hurry ps3 release it will go great :D even if it takes more years for ps3 and people forgets about it, they will come at that release ^^

If I were not such a fan of SE, I would have looked to another game long ago to fill my spare time. I have hope, but not much patience this late in the game.

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Originally Posted by Arcell

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Originally Posted by Evenstar

Exactly.

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Same here. Definitely.

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Originally Posted by Winry_Rockbell

I mean, realistically if you played back when the game was released, and you played again now. There are only a few changes that really made a difference. More Items, smoother interface, and EXP/SP Generation. In the time that they had to make updates and changes to the game, i feel like they really aren't thinking things through. They mentioned Companies near the day of release, and haven't implicated any hint of it. They talk about how they are working to make the game better, but in reality, there has been soo little improvement.

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the improvement to lag has been EXTREME and it is better almost every patch, id say this has been one of the things we can clearly see they have worked on ^^

^ yes, but fixing the lag isn't going to make the reviewers plaster a bunch of "FFXIV best game all time" on their websites. That's what this game needs, and it's what we want! I don't know about you, but I don't want to play in a low population MMO.

I don't believe it's a matter of time as it doesn't matter how many features SE tries to add or improve, because it's the combat system that is flawed. Reading Letter V they seem to understand this very well, and the changes they have done to this point haven't addressed the real issues with the game. I think once we have defined roles, we will actually feel a part of the world and the community.

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Originally Posted by BelgianRofl

^ yes, but fixing the lag isn't going to make the reviewers plaster a bunch of "FFXIV best game all time" on their websites. That's what this game needs, and it's what we want! I don't know about you, but I don't want to play in a low population MMO.

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I actually enjoy the closer communities that seem to come out of smaller games. I played WoW for months and got a couple of classes to 80 and still didn't really feel like I was a part of anything. WoW is pretty much the tyrant of the MMO market right now. XI was my first MMO, and my personal favorite thus far, it set my precedence for what an MMO "should be." I'm not expecting an overhaul which will magically transform XIV into XI-2, but realistically speaking, we should probably expect that the games a company makes, especially one that is the same franchise will, realistically speaking, be similar. I don't ever see XIV being the game that everyone else likes nor do I want it to be.

well tbh it is a good thing that SE will keep fixing this game until it becomes playable ... because seriously with these graphics and these good music ... anything can be fixed ... it just needs a clear mind... hell sometimes I wish I work for SE when they released FFX-2 FF12 FF13 and FFXIV ... just to scream in the office "CANT YOU SEE THE MISTAKES???"

@ Mr. Rofl

You are the first person in the history of my mmo gaming that I have blocked. Congratulations!

Up until now, I have always felt every voice should be heard, no matter how I disagreed. But there has not been a single post that you have made that shows that you have any actual concern about FFXIV's future whatsoever. Again I would ask, why do you hate FF so much? But the real answer is, you just want to stir trouble and get attention. But keep making the posts! The more and more you make, the less credibility you have.

Good day to you! :)

the only thing that will save it is 2 simple conditions: Fix all current issues with mechanics, ui, etc. Add a massive amount of new content - at least expansion pack size, and make it free. People will come back to review expansion, and maybe it wont be so unjoyable then and they can go with the "FFXIV has risen from the dead!"

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Originally Posted by Evenstar

Exactly.

Still I can't help but wonder how someone can explore Eorzea in just two hours .....

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Yeah it would take much longer than that to explore the whole world. I have 2 r50 jobs and there are still places that I have a really hard time accessing, not alone exploring every corner of, because of aggro mobs. Also there's still nodes out there that I haven't visited. I don't understand people who say the world is so small and there's nothing to do. Every time I log in I have a list of things I want to do in my head and not enough time to do them all. Anyway I guess it's all about what you're looking for in a game. I love that when there's no group activities going on, there's a TON of things you can be doing solo to build your character in other ways. My prediction is all these ppl wasting time trolling forums and complaining about things the game doesn't have, will be the same people complaining that their characters aren't "up to par" to partake in some of the new content when it is released.

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Yeah it would take much longer than that to explore the whole world. I have 2 r50 jobs and there are still places that I have a really hard time accessing, not alone exploring every corner of, because of aggro mobs. Also there's still nodes out there that I haven't visited. I don't understand people who say the world is so small and there's nothing to do. Every time I log in I have a list of things I want to do in my head and not enough time to do them all. Anyway I guess it's all about what you're looking for in a game. I love that when there's no group activities going on, there's a TON of things you can be doing solo to build your character in other ways. My prediction is all these ppl wasting time trolling forums and complaining about things the game doesn't have, will be the same people complaining that their characters aren't "up to par" to partake in some of the new content when it is released.

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I think 2hrs is a bit silly, takes 2hrs just to run limsa > grid.

anywho i ran to every nut and cranny after 2-3 days on release.

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anywho i ran to every nut and cranny after 2-3 days on release.

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From the Nutgrabbers to the Nutbiters, am I right?

Is there time to fix the game?

With the current situation in Japan and the fact that the servers are currently down I'm gonna say its doubtful.
As a hopeful customer who doesnt want to go back to WoW or FFXI for my MMO fix I reeeeeeally want them to get it fixed.

Is there time to fix the game?
From a literal standpoint, yes. But from the customer's standpoint.... SE is running dangerously low on time. The things they implemented since launch should have been in Beta. Yes, SE is making progress... but very little. They need to pull off something enormous and drastic to gain /any/ hope of keeping players, let alone gaining new ones. Personally, I think it's within SE's best interest to keep FFXIV free to play at this point. Their launch had such a bad impact on their credibility that I'm unsure if they'll recover, even if they manage to turn the game completely around. At least if they never charge for the game they can gain more players and maybe make money via cash shops.

I feel sad to say this but the news is getting worse by the day for Japan and getting normal eletricity flow. Honestly I don't see XI or XIV coming back for many months or even longer. Hopefully i'm wrong but only time will tell. However I only wish for the Japanese people to get themselves back together again. If it needs to be where certain things become not available anymore then so it shall be.

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Originally Posted by Youngblood

I feel sad to say this but the news is getting worse by the day for Japan and getting normal eletricity flow. Honestly I don't see XI or XIV coming back for many months or even longer. Hopefully i'm wrong but only time will tell. However I only wish for the Japanese people to get themselves back together again. If it needs to be where certain things become not available anymore then so it shall be.

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SE has operations here in the US it wouldnt be that tough to get the servers moved and running here within a 2 to 3 week span.

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Originally Posted by BelgianRofl

6 months have passed and what does SE have to show for it? A few new rooms in the Market wards, a weak search function, and a UI that's closer (yet so far off) to where it should have been at launch, 5 new monsters, the Coatee that all the manthras wear, and 6 or 7 side-quests that offer no incentive.

(Remember - you're supposed to wait 6 months before you review an MMO???) At this rate, I'm worried that Ishgard won't be created for another year and a half. It's possible for a new player to explore this entire tiny world in an hour or two.

SE's second and last chance at making a name for this game is the PS3 Launch when all the big reviewers re-review the game. The truth of the matter is, there are some HUGE upcoming titles that could keep the spotlight off of FFXIV's PS3 Release... That is... unless SE does something drastic, and does it fast..

The question is... is there enough time to fix this game? Will Yoshi-P pull something out of his hat and surprise us all, or will FFXIV be quashed by the competition?

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I still have faith in SE, they know the games, they know how to make good ones. I am sure they know that the MMO market is not the same when they released FFXI. We heard their voice, it's half way there. Now... Only problem is they can't make this game any better if Japan continues to suffer as it is. Hope they will stand up and make things normal operations.

Another stupid thread brought to you by 3 year old belgianrofl

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Another stupid thread brought to you by 3 year old belgianrofl

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Real mature. Way to set an example there, bucko.

Why are you not 3?
Maybe 2?
Are you irritated? maybe you should leave the forum.

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Originally Posted by Evenstar

Exactly.

Still I can't help but wonder how someone can explore Eorzea in just two hours .....

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Why would you ? There is NOTHING in Eorzea ......

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Originally Posted by Elaguila

Optimistically, yes. Realistically, probably not.

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lol my sediments exactly. I've been strung along hoping maybe this month will be the one. Only to have it come and go like the last with minimal improvements. Com 'on battle changes! Parties and player search save us!!