Hey, YOU, Non-search user still shouting first. STOP IT

Love of god, please.....Use search before shouting always for more party members. Search 1st, shout second. This new system was made so players do NOT have to sit in uldah or gather in front of the stupid entrance of a primal fight so please stop doing it this way and use the search feature how its supposed to as it alleviates the problems!

If you think its not compatible enough with what you want maybe your not using it right.

Are you setting online status to search people "Seeking party" ?? If you click your name and your the one searching "for" a party are you putting in what you want to do not some silly blank field? Are you making sure to set the online status for yourself as "Seeking party" ?? Its there, look for it....... Setting the class with the correct level? I saw a level 50 con, comment was exp on 26 arc and the retard didn't set his prefer class to arc so he will never get an invite of course that way.

If they want to shout let them shout

No, this isn't wow. If its better structure they need to wake up. Do not promote old ways just because they're the "old ways". Just like people are still refusing to use Arc in ifrit. Its sheeple and rediculous.

Turn your shout filter on if it bothers you so badly.

You can lead a horse to water, but ya can't make the damn thing drink :(

"Turn your shout filter on if it bothers you so badly. "

^ This is exactly the type of thinking I'm talking about. You clearly don't understand the reason behind the post. And will probably continue to use shout cause of it.

Shouting does not annoy me. Using shout over search annoys me because it promotes old ways that were complained about by almost everyone having to stand in uldah for a party. Now we have a way out of it and everyone continues to shout first and ignore search all together. What happened to all the people that wanted search before ?

How do I know they're ignoring search? Because of forum posts and the way every party leader except a JP one I have been in since the update all shout with 3-4 people listed in search asking to do that who will never know about the shout because they're off doing their thing far far away expecting the search feature to work. Its better, we dont have to sit around. So open it up and please start getting a feel for it???????? We don't have to sit in one spot for 5 hours anymore so if you stop promoting this to be used "first" at the very least.......... Party leader your in shouting? See 3 people in search asking to do what the party is for? Tell the leader hes being retarded and send a tell....

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Originally Posted by UnrealTai

No, this isn't wow. If its better structure they need to wake up. Do not promote old ways just because they're the "old ways". Just like people are still refusing to use Arc in ifrit. Its sheeple and rediculous.

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you c an turn off shout

and even in some other games(11 for example) people STILL shouted even when they had the search function, cuz not everyone is on it at any given time

its quite easy to shout, and find that 1 person who just logged on, the person who was in the middle of crafting waiting for shouts to get into a group
etc etc

they both have their use but dont demand people to stop using 1 cuz you dont like it

I don't shout in the first place. Way to assume. Also, I'm sick of people on these boards telling me that I don't understand something just because I disagree with their viewpoint. You're not all rocket scientists who are the only beings capable of higher thinking, come down off your soapbox. Block it if it annoys you. That's why the functionality is there.

well, people should use the search function too now. Shouting it's a viable tool, but searching can invite someone not in town.
so ppl, put yourself in LFG, and use the search feature WITH shouts

People and their control issues.

You people saying to ignore shouts are being retards. No one said shouting annoyed anyone.

It was said search should be used BEFORE shouting or at the very least WITH shouting.

Problem is 75% of the playerbase being too acustomed to old ways and acting like Sheep about using search waiting for the wolf to show them the way.

If your sitting here saying to turn shouts off, your a sheep for following post number 2. Cause no one said anything about not using shout all together. Topic was "first". And even if first at the very least use search ALSO. When party leaders shout for 30 minutes when 3 people are in search asking for it the party leader comes off looking a little brainless.

Meh, I've seen people shout, but have had no problems getting groups with the search function. Each time I've "used" the search function I've ended up with a group in about 15-25 minutes, so people are at least using it on Rabanastre. People shout for very specific functions though, and generally the shouts I see are all for level 50 events like Darkhold runs, Ifrit, Moogle, Strongholds. I haven't really seen low level group shouts since the search function came up.

What you, my friend, need to understand is that currently auto-translate is not available in the search function. Because of this, yes it is more efficient to shout for groups, because there are things you can't get across in the search function yet.

Honestly, until this game has a population that can support a random dungeon finder, you'll always see shouts. It will simply be more convenient.

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Originally Posted by UnrealTai

No one said shouting annoyed anyone.

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Originally Posted by UnrealTai

Using shout over search annoys me

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You're freaking out over something that isn't even a serious issue. Calm down.

-80 points for using a made up statistic.
-150 for your/you're error.

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Originally Posted by UnrealTai

"Turn your shout filter on if it bothers you so badly. "

^ This is exactly the type of thinking I'm talking about. You clearly don't understand the reason behind the post. And will probably continue to use shout cause of it.

Shouting does not annoy me. Using shout over search annoys me because it promotes old ways that were complained about by almost everyone having to stand in uldah for a party. Now we have a way out of it and everyone continues to shout first and ignore search all together. What happened to all the people that wanted search before ?

How do I know they're ignoring search? Because of forum posts and the way every party leader except a JP one I have been in since the update all shout with 3-4 people listed in search asking to do that who will never know about the shout because they're off doing their thing far far away expecting the search feature to work. Its better, we dont have to sit around. So open it up and please start getting a feel for it???????? We don't have to sit in one spot for 5 hours anymore so if you stop promoting this to be used "first" at the very least.......... Party leader your in shouting? See 3 people in search asking to do what the party is for? Tell the leader hes being retarded and send a tell....

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quoting dis

use the search features and then shout bros it's A Good Idea

"You're freaking out over something that isn't even a serious issue. Calm down. "

You realize you tried to say those conflict with each other but clearly don't if you re-read them.

"People aren't playing the game the way I want them to! Everyone that doesn't do what I say is a sheep! BAAWWWWW! BAWWWW!"

Seriously, QQ moar, plz.

The point of the topic is to start showing party leaders how to use it correctly. It's obvious from observing behavior its not being used because they don't understand it even though its easy if they stop and look at the feature for 5 minutes.

Party leaders and members alike would probably like to find what they're looking for as fast as possible..

I shout while using the party search to find the random 1-2 members we need for Ifrit.

I would also recommend that everyone put up search comments so I know if you're up for doing Ifrit or not =P

I agree UnrealTai.
If you complain so dearly about not having a search function, you should probably use it.

i knew even before the patch that ppl will still use the shout and will use it also in version 2.0,its very annoying.

If people want to be inefficient, let them. That's their own damn business. [EDIT: Using shout alone, yes, is inefficient, but a wise person would start using it immediately to complement the search if doing anything more than just looking for exp pick-up parties.] Plus, you have no idea if people have used the search feature before shouting. Did you watch over their shoulder while they tried to start forming a party. What happens if they used a search, found nobody looking for a party (or not on the classes, grand companies, whatever) that they wanted?

You are presuming WAY TOO MUCH here. It would be good to take a step back, check your sense of self-importance, and remember that this is a game that people can play any number of ways.

Reasons to use the Search function

Not limited by zone; Search entire server for desired jobs in level range

Quickly assemble a team to a remote location without having to travel there first


Reasons to Shout

People may be Anonymous (FFXI feature which will probably make its way to XIV)

People may be zoning or just logging in at the time of search - It doesn't update in real time

If no one is seeking, it's a huge list to sift through during peak times looking for a specific job

There are less than 500 people on each server and you know they're all in Ul'dah anyway...


Each has its advantages. Use 'em in tandem. Having 1 or 2 party members help you shout from different zones maximizes shout potential.

Geeze calm down, I dont like the party system really lol so I dont mind shouts, prefer it tbh. Means I have to do less work :D

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Originally Posted by UnrealTai

No, this isn't wow. If its better structure they need to wake up. Do not promote old ways just because they're the "old ways". Just like people are still refusing to use Arc in ifrit. Its sheeple and rediculous.

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lol, clearly you don't know much about the game regarding why archers are a bad idea for Ifrit.

but really, either way is fine. Shouts are fine.

"NOWEI, you must play the game how I want you to play it!"

No one is saying to completely stop shouting for parties, seriously. The OP suggested using the search first, then shouting if you still need to.

The people who really want to party are gonna have their flags up if they know that the search function is there. People who don't like standing around in town for hours are gonna have their flags up. So use the search, get a hold of those people who want to party but don't want to stand around doing nothing, THEN start shouting for members. That's all we're trying to say.

It's silly to shout when there are people seeking party who aren't in shout range.

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Originally Posted by Ruinaru

No one is saying to completely stop shouting for parties, seriously. The OP suggested using the search first, then shouting if you still need to.

The people who really want to party are gonna have their flags up if they know that the search function is there. People who don't like standing around in town for hours are gonna have their flags up. So use the search, get a hold of those people who want to party but don't want to stand around doing nothing, THEN start shouting for members. That's all we're trying to say.

It's silly to shout when there are people seeking party who aren't in shout range.

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It would have been a more effective PSA if he didn't call people retards and sheep while doing it. Turn /shout filter on = no more being annoyed by people using shout over search, because they would be oblivious to it. How does he know they didn't try searching first? But no, he wants to whine, complain and insult other users because "obviously" people must be doing it wrong, even though /shouting has its merits, just as much as using the search function does.

Whats funny is before the last patch in WoW they had a system similar to the one in FFXIV now where people could flag themself to seek for raids. Nobody used it instead they just shouted in trade chat. Which in the current patch got replaced with raid finder where people just queue up and get a cross server group.

I see the same thing happening in FFXIV people not using it and continue to shouting. Different games with similar system, and same result.

Wish people would use the party search system though.

here's a solution. instead of posting about it here, just send a courteous tell to the person shouting encouraging them to use the new search feature. if they're unaware of the new feature, chances are they're not frequenting the forums. sooo... i mean, yeah...

Sometimes a well placed shout can work wonders, not everyone is always seeking if they are considering leveling.

Hell in XI I joined tons of parties when I seen a shout and was like...sure why the hell not. Let people shout, let people seek, both ways parties can be formed.

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Originally Posted by UnrealTai

"Turn your shout filter on if it bothers you so badly. "

^ This is exactly the type of thinking I'm talking about. You clearly don't understand the reason behind the post. And will probably continue to use shout cause of it.

Shouting does not annoy me. Using shout over search annoys me because it promotes old ways that were complained about by almost everyone having to stand in uldah for a party. Now we have a way out of it and everyone continues to shout first and ignore search all together. What happened to all the people that wanted search before ?

How do I know they're ignoring search? Because of forum posts and the way every party leader except a JP one I have been in since the update all shout with 3-4 people listed in search asking to do that who will never know about the shout because they're off doing their thing far far away expecting the search feature to work. Its better, we dont have to sit around. So open it up and please start getting a feel for it???????? We don't have to sit in one spot for 5 hours anymore so if you stop promoting this to be used "first" at the very least.......... Party leader your in shouting? See 3 people in search asking to do what the party is for? Tell the leader hes being retarded and send a tell....

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There were only a few which complained, shouting will ways be superior. It is like going to a store see something you didnt know you needed and buy it. Id rather go into a party when it is a party than wait all day, and if i dont get in a party in less. Than 5 min, i use the search feature. Though, ive never needed to yet :p

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Originally Posted by UnrealTai

Love of god, please.....Use search before shouting always for more party members. Search 1st, shout second. This new system was made so players do NOT have to sit in uldah or gather in front of the stupid entrance of a primal fight so please stop doing it this way and use the search feature how its supposed to as it alleviates the problems!

If you think its not compatible enough with what you want maybe your not using it right.

Are you setting online status to search people "Seeking party" ?? If you click your name and your the one searching "for" a party are you putting in what you want to do not some silly blank field? Are you making sure to set the online status for yourself as "Seeking party" ?? Its there, look for it....... Setting the class with the correct level? I saw a level 50 con, comment was exp on 26 arc and the retard didn't set his prefer class to arc so he will never get an invite of course that way.

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but how do you know they didn't use the search function before they started shouting?

One shout can persuade a person who was going to go participate in the snowball fight to forgo it, and instead level his PGL.

You may have an ok point but your post just makes you sound like an intolerant self-serving snob :/ And you wonder why people push against you.

I'll use the search when and how I want to, and I'll shout if I deem it necessary or beneficial. You have your opinion and you're entitled to it, though to be blunt I don't care about it one bit if you're going to get it out there in the form of a temper tantrum.

I don't mind the occasional shout but for the love of god... not every 25 seconds...

It will take time for people to adjust using the party search function, and I really, really hope people start using it.

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Originally Posted by Antanias

You can lead a horse to water, but ya can't make the damn thing drink :(

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Watch me !!

I do agree with the OP though that more people should learn to use the features we are given, seems a bit pig headed not to.

I shout so people knows I'm Actively searching for members. I just don't like to set my state to Seeking Party so people bring me on. Therefore I use the Shouting. Doesn't bother anyone, more like Can't bother anyone. It's not like we're shouting penises on the chatlog.

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Originally Posted by UnrealTai

No, this isn't wow. If its better structure they need to wake up. Do not promote old ways just because they're the "old ways". Just like people are still refusing to use Arc in ifrit. Its sheeple and rediculous.

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If this were WoW, they wouldn't be shouting for groups. That's what trade chat was for. Please get your facts straight before disparaging a game.

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