RDM : Fleche and Contre Sixte damage nature

Hello,

It doesn't change a lot of thing but, I'm interested to know what kind of physical damages those two abilites are doing? Piercing ? Slashing ?
Just to know because I'm curious. ;)

(Now that I think about it, rdm physical damages in general)

Anything that "delivers an attack" is physical piercing damage. Anything that "deals unaspected damage" or "deals [elemental] damage" is magic.

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Originally Posted by KDSilver

Hello,

It doesn't change a lot of thing but, I'm interested to know what kind of physical damages those two abilites are doing? Piercing ? Slashing ?
Just to know because I'm curious. ;)

(Now that I think about it, rdm physical damages in general)

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edit: all physical attacks delt by the RDM are piercing.

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Originally Posted by xyaie

all physical attacks are piercing.

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That's not true. Only Dragoons, Bards and Machinists deal piercing damage. Paladin, Dark Knight, Warrior, Samurai and Ninja deal slashing damage; and monks deal blunt damage.

EDIT: And to answer the OP, all RDM attacks just deal magical damage, even the 'melee' ones.

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Originally Posted by BristolRuss

That's not true. Only Dragoons, Bards and Machinists deal piercing damage. Paladin, Dark Knight, Warrior, Samurai and Ninja deal slashing damage; and monks deal blunt damage.

EDIT: And to answer the OP, all RDM attacks just deal magical damage, even the 'melee' ones.

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by "all" i meant all redmage attacks. I thought the OP was mainly referring to RDM.

that being said, your melee attacks are only magical if you have enough white/black mana to empower them. Without being empowered they are piercing damage (modified by dragoon's piercing debuff)

the same applied to all of your off the global. Fleche, contre sixte, Corpse-a-corps, and Displacement

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Originally Posted by BristolRuss

That's not true. Only Dragoons, Bards and Machinists deal piercing damage. Paladin, Dark Knight, Warrior, Samurai and Ninja deal slashing damage; and monks deal blunt damage.

EDIT: And to answer the OP, all RDM attacks just deal magical damage, even the 'melee' ones.

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incorrect, and this has been tested. It's piercing. Except fleche seems to be "nothing" and isn't even boosted by embolden, may be glitched.

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Originally Posted by Alistaire

incorrect, and this has been tested. It's piercing. Except fleche seems to be "nothing" and isn't even boosted by embolden, may be glitched.

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Was the test from someone else's embolden? If so that's good information (I had not heard).

embolden used by us only increase our magic damage

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Originally Posted by xyaie

Was the test from someone else's embolden? If so that's good information (I had not heard).

embolden used by us only increase our magic damage

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https://www.bluegartr.com/threads/13...Just-or-Be-Red

edit: seems it was their embolden, which would explain why it didn't boost it, since it's not considered magic damage

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Originally Posted by Alistaire

https://www.bluegartr.com/threads/13...Just-or-Be-Red

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Good read, but it seems the OP's comment as well as post #4 both came to the conclusion that their own embolden did not effect the oGCDs. Embolden only increases our magic damage, those are physical skills (at the time of them posting 2 weeks ago this was relatively new info)

All RDM oGCDs are piercing damage. Unenchanted melee skills also deal piercing damage, but you shouldn't be using those, and your auto attack is also piercing damage. Everything else is some type of magic damage.

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Originally Posted by Semmi

Unenchanted melee skills also deal piercing damage

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But the enchanted ones are unaspected magic damage right? I use embolden for it

Piercing damage eh? Really.

So, figuring buffs synergy and the current Meta I'm thinking....

RDM BRD DRG SAM PLD DRK WHM AST right now provides the best teamwork vantage point when building around a RDM.

Thank you :)

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Originally Posted by GospelVhae

But the enchanted ones are unaspected magic damage right? I use embolden for it

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Yes. Enchanted weaponskills are unaspected magic damage.

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Originally Posted by Semmi

Yes. Enchanted weaponskills are unaspected magic damage.

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Thats a strange way to make the ability to be honest.

Im assuming enchanted also removes the piercing attribute otherwise this ability may be more powerful than i gave it credit for.

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Originally Posted by Psycofang

Im assuming enchanted also removes the piercing attribute otherwise this ability may be more powerful than i gave it credit for.

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Yes, the game doesn't have attacks that are two damage types at the same time as far as I know.

So is flèche and contre sixte piercing?

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Originally Posted by Sephorai

So is flèche and contre sixte piercing?

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Yes! They are!

The relevant piercing attacks are Fleche, Contre Sixte, Corps-a-corps and Displacement. The rest of the melee combo should never be done unenchanted, so it doesn't matter that it's piercing as well.

Sweet, that answers that!