GTX 660 vs GTX 960

I'm currently running the gtx 660 oem 1.5gb and was thinking about upgrading to the gtx 960 2gb. Has anyone made a similar switch? I'm not really sure if it will be worth the $200+ and would like some input on how much of a improvement it would have on this game. Please note that ram and cpu are not an issue. Thanks for the help.

Personally, I'd save up further for a 1060 or 1070.

I would say to at least get a 1070.

I would love to get a new 1060 or 1070 card but that is not currently an option. It's 960 or nothing sadly.

If you're going to spend $200, just get the 1060 or a 1050 TI. Better deal for the money performance-wise. You can even pick up a 1050TI for around $150. Or, just save up another $150 for the 1070. Weirdly, it seems GPU prices have jumped a bit on Amazon so you may need to wait for them to creep back down, or try another store.

EDIT: Why is the 960 the only option? Price, or compatibility?

Short answer: 960 is miles ahead of the 660, and would last you a couple to a few years. $200 feels expensive for a 900 series when the 1000 series is in the same price range, but it's not entirely unreasonable, and you will notice a drastic difference.

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EDIT: Why is the 960 the only option? Price, or compatibility?

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A little bit of both. Only certain cards will work with my setup and I was able to get a 960 for a good price. A 1060 would be double the price where I live and a 1070 is out of the question.

For anyone wondering where I live gtx 1060 are going for around $400 and gtx 1070 around $600. I might be able to get the gtx 1060 to work with my system but I think I would rather use that $400 for something else.

I'm not sure why, but it seems the price on Graphics cards shot up within the last 24 hours. The MSRP on the 6GB version of the 1060 is $239 USD, and was the listed price yesterday on Amazon, yet today that same exact card is $450 USD. I have no freaking clue why this happened, but you might better off waiting. The 960 will be a huge jump for you, it just seems like a steep price to pay when the 10 series cards are (typically) so close to that price. You might also look into the new AMD cards. The 580 offers comparable performance to the 1060 for around the same price.

On the issue of compatibility, can you elaborate a bit? Outdated architecture? CPU? PCIe slot issue? low Wattage PSU? It might be a good idea to provide some specs on your current build anyways since a CPU or other system bottleneck would limit the effectiveness of any new card you might get.

EDIT: https://www.extremetech.com/computin...s-skyrocketing This is apparently why card prices have skyrocketed. They should come back down eventually, but assuming you want the upgrade now and are going to have compatibility issues anyways, might be good to just grab that 960.

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EDIT: https://www.extremetech.com/computin...s-skyrocketing This is apparently why card prices have skyrocketed. They should come back down eventually, but assuming you want the upgrade now and are going to have compatibility issues anyways, might be good to just grab that 960.

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Thanks for the info I haven't looked at gpu prices lately so I had no idea.

A new 960 would normally cost me $300 but I can get one for a lot cheaper which is why I wanted some input. However after looking into it a bit I might be able to make the gtx 1050ti to work. How does it compare to the 960?
As for the compatibility issues, I didn't want mess with any of my parts atm, I just want a card pop into my existing system and go. I'm not going to be able to afford a card that would bottleneck my cpu either.

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Originally Posted by Scenic

Thanks for the info I haven't looked at gpu prices lately so I had no idea.

A new 960 would normally cost me $300 but I can get one for a lot cheaper which is why I wanted some input. However after looking into it a bit I might be able to make the gtx 1050ti to work. How does it compare to the 960?
As for the compatibility issues, I didn't want mess with any of my parts atm, I just want a card pop into my existing system and go. I'm not going to be able to afford a card that would bottleneck my cpu either.

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There honestly shouldn't be any compatibility issue upgrading from a gtx 660 to one of the newer 10 series. Basically the entire gtx 10 series is leaps and bounds above their previous older counterparts and use less energy too. If you check the benchmark thread that's buried somewhere, there are a number of people with the 1050ti and 1060 posting decent scores.

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There honestly shouldn't be any compatibility issue upgrading from a gtx 660 to one of the newer 10 series. Basically the entire gtx 10 series is leaps and bounds above their previous older counterparts and use less energy too. If you check the benchmark thread that's buried somewhere, there are a number of people with the 1050ti and 1060 posting decent scores.

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The biggest compatibility issue I could see with the 1060 or 1070 would be the PSU. However, if other specs are going to bottleneck the GPU, is it worth the money?

As for the 1050TI, it is really an excellent card for ~$150 USD.

http://gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare...-Ti/3165vs3649 - For reference.

It seems to me the 1050Ti is SLIGHTLY worse in benchmarks, and by slightly I mean literally not even noticeably. however, in gaming the 1050Ti performs better in nearly every situation, CS:GO being the only exception. Overall, the 1050Ti is a much better value, and I believe it consumes less power. It is also a small card, mini form factor, so it will fit in nearly any case. After looking at Nvidia's site, the 1050Ti has a TDW of 75W vs 120W for the 960, meaning much lower power consumption and thus heat. Addtionally, the 1050Ti has 4GB of VRAM which is great for preventing screen lag as well as supporting multi monitor set ups and multi tasking.

TL;DR - The 1050Ti is a great value for the price, and while slightly less powerful overall than the 960, it performs better in most games due to newer architecture. The 1050Ti is the better value. At 1080p, it should easily handle FFXIV at virtually any settings.

It looks like the gtx 1050 ti would not only cost less but perform better then the 960.
Unfortunately I can't seem to find the model I would need for my system.
There is no rush so I will just have to shop around or wait till one pops up.
Thanks for the input.

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a 1050ti is just about the same as a 960 except it has 4GB of Ram

Also $300 for a 960 is way too much. I don't know what country you're in, but if you in US or Canada that is about twice as much as it should be.

I looked up both US & Canada's Newegg sites real quick and found these:

US
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...16&ignorebbr=1

CA
https://www.newegg.ca/Product/Produc...90&ignorebbr=1

I recomend GTX1060. I'm getting 70+ FPS in busy areas and 100+ in dungeons

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Originally Posted by GunksFoy

The biggest compatibility issue I could see with the 1060 or 1070 would be the PSU. However, if other specs are going to bottleneck the GPU, is it worth the money?

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I didn't want to mention my specs simply because I didn't want to clog the post with unnecessary info, I was purely looking for a gpu comparison. The gtx 1060 and 1070 shouldn't be an issue for my psu since I believe they use the same amount of power as the 660 but I didn't really look into them as I can't get them anyways. It's more of a sizing and fan issue I'm dealing with and no I don't want to get a new case or motherboard.

Anyways you were a big help.
Thanks for the time.

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Originally Posted by RinkZeruda

Also $300 for a 960 is way too much. I don't know what country you're in, but if you in US or Canada that is about twice as much as it should be.

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Ironically all the new gtx 960 on the site you linked not including the one on sale are over $300. Unless you mean the refurbished ones then yes you can get those cheaper.

Edit: The gtx 1050 ti seams to perform a bit better also yes it is a lot cheap then the 960.

Oh yea. There are sellers other than Newegg itself on their site now. Newegg themselves only sells the refurb 960's. 1050ti is the way to go over the two anyway :) .

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Oh yea. There are sellers other than Newegg itself on their site now. Newegg themselves only sells the refurb 960's. 1050ti is the way to go over the two anyway :) .

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Definitely. I wasn't sure about the 1050 so I didn't really look into it at first but it is a much better card. It's a lot easier on my wallet too.

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Originally Posted by Scenic

I didn't want to mention my specs simply because I didn't want to clog the post with unnecessary info, I was purely looking for a gpu comparison. The gtx 1060 and 1070 shouldn't be an issue for my psu since I believe they use the same amount of power as the 660 but I didn't really look into them as I can't get them anyways. It's more of a sizing and fan issue I'm dealing with and no I don't want to get a new case or motherboard.

Anyways you were a big help.
Thanks for the time.

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Sure thing. Glad I could help.

If sizing/fans are an issue, the 1050Ti should be an incredible card since it's a mini form factor and stays quite cool with low power consumption. Good luck!

The GTX960 does nicely on the Stormblood Benchmark...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1fHH2kAiDBg&t=227s

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Originally Posted by Scenic

I'm currently running the gtx 660 oem 1.5gb and was thinking about upgrading to the gtx 960 2gb. Has anyone made a similar switch? I'm not really sure if it will be worth the $200+ and would like some input on how much of a improvement it would have on this game. Please note that ram and cpu are not an issue. Thanks for the help.

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I switched to the 970 and it's awesome. Running well over 60 fps unchecked, and consistently 59-60 when checked.

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Originally Posted by Ticks

The GTX960 does nicely on the Stormblood Benchmark...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1fHH2kAiDBg&t=227s

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Something doesn't seem right about that score. I'm going to have to download and run the benchmark again at 1280 x 720 Maximum to compare.

Edit: I wish he listed other spec because my score was higher with the 660. Running that benchmark again with resource manger up made me realize how bad my gpu is bottlenecking my system :(