Crafting BiS 4.0 ?

Hi,

What melding stats are you aiming for ?

Full white (1211/1114) is already way over 1 star requirements (1100/1080) without specialist, food or buffs, except for CP.

I'd like to meld before next tier come out, but i'm a bit lost about what caps to aim for.

Not there yet myself, but ... CP, then max melding where possible. Going to hold a few slots (tools, body were the ones in the past) that cannot be max melded in reserve for whatever melding needs doing in the future.

Nothing can be max melded now ..

For example ring is +41cm/+38c/7cp ..

Head 27/19/1

lol it's crazy!! I am getting close, if there are new masters books I would compare there otherwise I would hold off a bit.

1384 / 1230 / 452 is my target goal but that is predicated on getting 15 Cracked Crystals to purchase Tier 6 Materia and crap ton red scrip for all the Tier 5s.

Proposed melds on Ariyala

On a related note, just how do we get Cracked Crystal?

Ive gotten 2 Cracked Clusters so far from A & S Rank Stormblood NM's

Cracked Crystals are also a rare random drop in 70 dungeons.

As for melds, I refuse to put VIs in HQ whites. I'll suffer with Vs and tweak it to get over the minimum requirements.

People have gone mad melding only cp materia for now.

I'm gonna wait , check books and meld away.

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Originally Posted by Everoth

Ive gotten 2 Cracked Crystals so far from A & S Rank Stormblood NM's

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Crystal not Cluster?

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Originally Posted by Dycloide

Crafting BiS 4.0 ?

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i am not sure why ppl talk even about, next week will comes out green scrips or were they yellow!? anyway when the new scrips comes into the game there will be also new Masterbooks and NEW and better specially job crafter gear.

regards hobbit

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Originally Posted by SmallHobbit

i am not sure why ppl talk even about, next week will comes out green scrips or were they yellow!? anyway when the new scrips comes into the game there will be also new Masterbooks and NEW and better specially job crafter gear.

regards hobbit

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Can't remember now, but was it possible to hit the IW requirements if you had the max melded i150 set, with max melded i170 acc and i170 main/off?

I don't think so. There was one (then later, a second equal, all-class that was easier to gather materials for) tier between the i190/i195 Ironworks and the i150 set, which was i170 and was obtained through crafting with Favor materials. That stuff had to be melded well to craft the i190/i195 stuff, though not max melded (the Carbonweave set could do it, and could not be overmelded).

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Originally Posted by Roth_Trailfinder

I don't think so.

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i am sure with the new scrips will comes out new Masterbooks and new crafter/gathering gear the equivalent to the old ilvl 170 gear.
which is limited since Favor bough from scrips which limited.

regards hobbit

Right now I'm sitting at 1100/1080 (new left side white MH OH nothing melded) and ironw fully melded.

Looking at the past master books the pattern is they increase Craft and control 100+ more so we looking at master book V to be 1280/ 1200 ish

Roughly

i get yesterday all crafters/ gathering jobs to lvl 70 but i will wait with melds until Masterbooks are out, also already prepared full 290 set for the case it will become in need. :D

regards hobbit

What's the point of max-melding when we can literally craft everything HQ on our recipes? Personally, I am only melding a few cheap CP materia. I am going to wait until they release the new Mastet Books and green/blue gear before even thinking about advanced melding.

It would be rather silly to blow a few million on melding right now to craft our current easy recipes that could be done without melding. Surely, if you max meld now, you will have a very easy time when they release new recipes in he next patch. But the new recipes may contain new crafting gear that require melding again anyway. Thus, instead of max-meld, I would actually aim for a min-meld when I need more stats in the next patch!

For now, I'm just gonna sit around collecting materia, and meld them later when the time is right.

ATM liv70 set it's enough?
mind to level all my DoH to 70 and using it and replace my IW set.

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Originally Posted by Lialiin

ATM liv70 set it's enough?
mind to level all my DoH to 70 and using it and replace my IW set.

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Ironworks is good enough for all recipes except for the 1* level 70 ones (due to min stat requirements). Difficulty is laughably easy so it doesn't matter what you do. You'll still HQ everything with ease and from all NQ materials and the entire system so far is really just an illusion of a mini-game. Tons of choices, but the end result is always the same. Currently, it doesn't make a difference whether you're multi-class, single class, specialist, non-specialist, well geared, not well geared, know the system, or don't know the system.

For the 1* glamour and minion recipes, you you can just craft the tools, 1 ring, and use a control food buff to meet the minimum requirements. If you aren't interested in the glamours, you can even just stick to level 65 for now and craft everything except for the 1* recipes while slowly leveling to 70.

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Originally Posted by Caimie_Tsukino

What's the point of max-melding when we can literally craft everything HQ on our recipes?.

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Some people like to max meld some people don't. I personally just wanna reach the new cap to be able to craft the next set.

As long as you have enough control craft for the next tier you should be fine. Max melded is not necessary. Just some people like to do it.

see what i am saying! new crafter gear out! :p

https://i.gyazo.com/79c4eac5658e8564...46a6f0973c.png

regards hobbit

that's it then, just new gear, nothing new to craft? It was all ready easy to HQ with ironworks.

If anyone finds how to craft the new gear rather than buy it with scrips, I'd like to know, because it looks like we aren't getting new master books right now. And there are no tools, no gear to craft either. It's all just unmeldable yellow scrips stuff, which is seriously disappointing. What even is the point of getting all this scrips gear right now, especially since you can't even meld it? It looks good, but... it seems just kinda... there. Yellow scrips also don't seem to have a weekly limit, so it's not like you have to do the grind either. Might as well just wait for the books to actually come out before getting scrips, since they're already ungodly easy to get...

yes it is disappointing. I'm hoping, really hoping that they have a crafter patch on Thursday after the release of the savage mode raids, like they did with uh, alexander? or something. If I remember correctly. They said they didn't want the new crafter gear to give people an advantage in savage mode, could be misremembering.

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Originally Posted by Mature

People have gone mad melding only cp materia for now.

I'm gonna wait , check books and meld away.

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People have gone mad? I would have to say that's a smart move. CP materia is relatively inexpensive, so why not meld out at least CP so you can function with current 100% HQ macros and rotations until new recipes are released and we find out what we really need?

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Originally Posted by EvianEverdeen

People have gone mad? I would have to say that's a smart move. CP materia is relatively inexpensive, so why not meld out at least CP so you can function with current 100% HQ macros and rotations until new recipes are released and we find out what we really need?

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exactly...meld CP now and wait for the good melds until we see the crafted gear they add in a few weeks.

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Originally Posted by Ayerinn

exactly...meld CP now and wait for the good melds until we see the crafted gear they add in a few weeks.

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Think it will be a few weeks?

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Originally Posted by EvianEverdeen

Think it will be a few weeks?

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should be with savage release in a few weeks, yeah (and to be clear I mean the crafted battle gear recipes...not new crafting gear)

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Originally Posted by Ayerinn

should be with savage release in a few weeks, yeah (and to be clear I mean the crafted battle gear recipes...not new crafting gear)

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Ah ok, that makes sense. New master recipe books then you think?

Judging by how they done things in past, its usually an additional 10-20% more craft/control required going from 1star to 2star, or to any next level star. ATM 1star is 1100 craft, 1080control, I would expect 2star recipes to be around 1200-1300 craft and 1100-1200 control given that there are Materia 6 now. MAX possibly 1400-1500 craft, 1250 control.. atm 190 penta melded accessories with scrip left side mostly covers projected 1300 craft n 1100 control+food

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Originally Posted by EvianEverdeen

People have gone mad? I would have to say that's a smart move. CP materia is relatively inexpensive, so why not meld out at least CP so you can function with current 100% HQ macros and rotations until new recipes are released and we find out what we really need?

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What I'm talking about people melding CP pentamelded all accessories no craft no control....

You don't really need anymore than 440CP to craft to HQ items. If you need more you might want to revisit your rotation I guess.

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Originally Posted by Mature

What I'm talking about people melding CP pentamelded all accessories no craft no control....

You don't really need anymore than 440CP to craft to HQ items. If you need more you might want to revisit your rotation I guess.

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You don't need to pentameld CP materia to max CP caps on any of the items. There's a nice rotation right now that uses 455 CP. I suppose you could hit that with food, but it'll be nice to not use food again for a while until we all find out what the new recipes entail.

In general, you want to hoard materias and wait to know the requirements for sure so you don't "waste" materias. Melding to meet a rotation requirement is probably fine, but melds are done quickly so it isn't like you NEED to do it now.

Are these new books in the game already?? If so, where!?

No books yet I think they might pop the Thursday after Omega Savage.

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Originally Posted by Mature

No books yet I think they might pop the Thursday after Omega Savage.

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so two weeks right?

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Originally Posted by Mature

No books yet I think they might pop the Thursday after Omega Savage.

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yeah with new battlegear and new crafter/gathering gear as always. (not sure why people still surprised about, it's always the same routine)

regards hobbit

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Originally Posted by ChameleonMS

1384 / 1230 / 452 is my target goal but that is predicated on getting 15 Cracked Crystals to purchase Tier 6 Materia and crap ton red scrip for all the Tier 5s.

Proposed melds on Ariyala

On a related note, just how do we get Cracked Crystal?

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I'm either looking at something wrong or you seem to have mistakenly not selected a waist slot item at all. With an even mildly melded waist your total stats on Ariyala will be somewhat higher, especially control. Whether that makes you reevaluate your control melds on other pieces or just keep them and stack even more that is up to you to decide.

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Originally Posted by Stolioli

I'm either looking at something wrong or you seem to have mistakenly not selected a waist slot item at all. With an even mildly melded waist your total stats on Ariyala will be somewhat higher, especially control. Whether that makes you reevaluate your control melds on other pieces or just keep them and stack even more that is up to you to decide.

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Nope, you are correct, the waist was missing. Dam you page down. The waist was right at the bottom of my screen then got scrolled past when pressing page down.