[Dev Request] Samurai Armor in Kugane

First of all, thank you for Stormblood, I have been enjoying the storyline and my Samurai immensely!.. While I am pleased with the style of armors we have in the game, please make this set available for players to wear!

http://i.imgur.com/uuG8NYv.jpg

Would be very nice to have this option, or something similar, for players who like this kind of style.

The Omega raid will have the Genji set that'll look kinda like that:

https://i.redd.it/cdwvr6wt6i3z.png

Now that I think of it the healer set kinda looks like that picture, just without the skirt

Very cool! They do look very similar, hopefully it will be added for sake of variety!

There's a full version of it on display (at least I think it's the same one) if you get a room at the inn. (Would screenshot but I can't even get in the game right now.)

Looks quite nice, hope it's made wearable.

Hey, thanks for the heads up! I was able to find the full version. Please make this available for player use!

http://i.imgur.com/nlIIQH6.jpg

That set actually looks a lot more like the traditional FF and FFXI look for Samurai.

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Originally Posted by Tsukino

That set actually looks a lot more like the traditional FF and FFXI look for Samurai.

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Yeah, it's pretty similar to SAM AF1 from FFXI. XD

SAM tank AF? SAM tank AF.

RIP SAM tank.

@Tarrtarus what is that cool armor you wear? :)

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Originally Posted by Infi86

@Tarrtarus what is that cool armor you wear? :)

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The chest-pieces appears to be the Asuran Togi of Striking: https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodes...m/ec70306316e/
dyed in some shade of brown that I cant identify.

yes some more slender samurai armor would be nice
genji is a bit too clunky for me

It's such a shame that the only set of non-glam Samurai armor that Samurai can wear is this asymmetrical overdesigned nightmare. At the very least the armor seen as a housing item is symmetrical and simple in design, if only Samurai had access to it.
https://ffxiv.gamerescape.com/w/imag...f_Striking.png

It never ceases to amaze me how people in the gaming community will ask for something from the developer and start their request by slapping them in the face.

Thank you good people :) I will earn centurio seals for it. I had 2 I really like - Strife from subscription and this one (currently using it):

https://image.ibb.co/cHRxpK/ffxiv_29092018_154639.png

I know YoshiP wanted SAM in this game to be more Ronin style, with cloth armor; but in the end, would it really be so bad to actually give us more authentic SAM armor?

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Originally Posted by Rangar

I know YoshiP wanted SAM in this game to be more Ronin style, with cloth armor; but in the end, would it really be so bad to actually give us more authentic SAM armor?

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Kind of, actually. You have to consider that apart from artifact armor, you share your gear with monk, and wearing heavy armor isn't in-line with that job. It's the downside to shared gear is that you don't get as much unique identity in appearance on the gear you can equip. If they were to add in the armor requested, you're likely to either get it as level 1 items anyone can wear (which I'm not opposed to, I'm always in favor of more options) or as a future relic armor set.

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Originally Posted by wereotter

Kind of, actually. You have to consider that apart from artifact armor, you share your gear with monk, and wearing heavy armor isn't in-line with that job. It's the downside to shared gear is that you don't get as much unique identity in appearance on the gear you can equip. If they were to add in the armor requested, you're likely to either get it as level 1 items anyone can wear (which I'm not opposed to, I'm always in favor of more options) or as a future relic armor set.

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Japanese monks wore Samurai armor too. Shared armor is no excuse, because there's no problem with both classes getting to share a decent looking set of Samurai armor.
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/40/86...083a9284e1.jpg

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Originally Posted by wereotter

Kind of, actually. You have to consider that apart from artifact armor, you share your gear with monk, and wearing heavy armor isn't in-line with that job. It's the downside to shared gear is that you don't get as much unique identity in appearance on the gear you can equip. If they were to add in the armor requested, you're likely to either get it as level 1 items anyone can wear (which I'm not opposed to, I'm always in favor of more options) or as a future relic armor set.

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It could always be SAM only, just like the relic armor and the starter gearset

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Originally Posted by Edax

It's such a shame that the only set of non-glam Samurai armor that Samurai can wear is this asymmetrical overdesigned nightmare. At the very least the armor seen as a housing item is symmetrical and simple in design, if only Samurai had access to it.
https://ffxiv.gamerescape.com/w/imag...f_Striking.png

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I'm curious... why do you reckon this design is an... as you put it... "asymmetrical overdesigned nightmare"?

I personally like this gear and its Kugane signature look. Incidentally, this is one of my favourite Samurai gear sets in the game because in my opinion, it is a high fantasy take on the traditional Final Fantasy Genji armour.

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Originally Posted by Ramesses

I'm curious... why do you reckon this design is an... as you put it... "asymmetrical overdesigned nightmare"?

I personally like this gear and its Kugane signature look. Incidentally, this is one of my favourite Samurai gear sets in the game because in my opinion, it is a high fantasy take on the traditional Final Fantasy Genji armour.

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For one, it's asymmetrical, which knocks off a lot of points off the aesthetic. For some reason, the left leg has a long armored skirt, but the right legs has a short skirt for no practical reason. I guess they were going for that Tidus hipster pants look?
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...20px-Tidus.png
Anyway, the shoulder guards also asymmetric and don't match, along with what appears to be a non-functional belt buckle on the left shoulder. Why does the right shoulder have a thorn? Why does the left shoulder have overlapping plates, but the right shoulder does not?
The reason I say it's overdesigned is well...look at it. There's hardly a smooth surface or even a square foot where the armor is just one solid color. This "armor" is just so covered with attachments, bumps and swirls that it's really difficult for the eye to even focus on a single spot, which is why I call it a nightmare. Samurai armor was suppose to be good at deflect blows, but that's impossible with this set because there's just so much material for a weapon to catch onto. Clearly the designer spent time designing it, but it appears nobody took the project away from him when it was needed so that designer just kept adding more and more until it was overdesigned. If I asked you to redraw it from memory, or just to describe it in person, it would be near impossible.
https://i.pinimg.com/736x/0c/32/ca/0...eef378fbfa.jpg

Just compare to the caster armor, which is symmetrical, and has clear focal points and clean color lines on it. You can clearly identify the cuirass and easily identify each segment of the armor, cuirass, skirt, shoulder pads and wrist pads. If it weren't for the dress, this armor would be perfect for the Samurai class. I imagine most players would have a far easier time redrawing this armor from memory.
https://ffxiv.gamerescape.com/w/imag...of_Casting.png

Ahhh... allow me to explain:

Let’s be factual, the Genji Oyorori of Fending, Genji Jin-Baori of Maiming and even the Dai-Ryumyaku Jufuku Fending were already excellently designed symmetrically to stay true to the lore of the game and the ideals of the Genji Samurai gear for the Final Fantasy series. Since these are the main three styles of the traditional Samurai attire, the Devs did a great job in capturing their look—with the tank “clunky” version rightly being the one that adhered to the aesthetics the most because the Genji style denotes heavy armour. The healer and caster version are simply variants of it.

The Genji one for Samurai therefore had to look more stylized to make it unique from the others while also giving a blatant nod to the Edo ceremonial style. The current “cloth” style for the Samurai AF is also intentionally done as such because it is supposed to exhibit the style of the late Edo period. It is no coincidence that the elaborate “swirls” on the Samurai AF gear are also captured on the breastplate of the Genji Samurai breastplate. So at least give the conceptual art team some credit for trying very hard
to deliver a job very well done.

I would venture a guess and say perhaps it is not to your liking because Samurai is your (main?) and you particularly wanted a “symmetrical” traditional SAM armour to don your character with. I recommend getting the Stormblood: Art of the Revolution artbook and reading some of the Dev teams’ very illuminating, heartfelt comments (pages 304 to 311) on their design philosophies. The process of how they develop armours… fantastic insight.

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Originally Posted by Ramesses

Ahhh... allow me to explain:

Let’s be factual, the Genji Oyorori of Fending, Genji Jin-Baori of Maiming and even the Dai-Ryumyaku Jufuku Fending were already excellently designed symmetrically to stay true to the lore of the game and the ideals of the Genji Samurai gear for the Final Fantasy series. Since these are the main three styles of the traditional Samurai attire, the Devs did a great job in capturing their look—with the tank “clunky” version rightly being the one that adhered to the aesthetics the most because the Genji style denotes heavy armour. The healer and caster version are simply variants of it.

The Genji one for Samurai therefore had to look more stylized to make it unique from the others while also giving a blatant nod to the Edo ceremonial style. The current “cloth” style for the Samurai AF is also intentionally done as such because it is supposed to exhibit the style of the late Edo period. It is no coincidence that the elaborate “swirls” on the Samurai AF gear are also captured on the breastplate of the Genji Samurai breastplate. So at least give the conceptual art team some credit for trying very hard
to deliver a job very well done.

I would venture a guess and say perhaps it is not to your liking because Samurai is your (main?) and you particularly wanted a “symmetrical” traditional SAM armour to don your character with. I recommend getting the Stormblood: Art of the Revolution artbook and reading some of the Dev teams’ very illuminating, heartfelt comments (pages 304 to 311) on their design philosophies. The process of how they develop armours… fantastic insight.

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I have mixed feelings about the Genji Jin-Baori of Maiming. On the one hand, it looks marvelous when my character or retainer is standing up.
https://i.imgur.com/xkgAoAN.png

The problem is that the Dragoon fights with the knees bent, so the bottom 1/3 of the armor smears and warps so horrendously. I dearly wish my Samurai could wear this instead. The Samurai in-game don't bend their knees when in combat stance so this kind of armor warping wouldn't be happening on this particular set.
https://i.imgur.com/NTdUiZR.png
The key problem I think is that we're not spoiled for choice. The Samurai class has so few sets of distinctive Hinganish armor to wear, with only one proper non-glam set.
I've seen lots of Samurai armor, and I think I know what the developer was going for, but I still think the in-game version is way overdone. Most Samurai armor, if it was asymmetrical, was only subtly so. I guess it's fine giving one set a Final Fantasy flavor, but Samurai don't exactly get a choice on which set of Samurai armor they get to wear because of the armor restrictions.
https://www.kcet.org/sites/kl/files/.../samurai_2.jpg