Has SE not learned anything from 2.0/3.0 release's?

SE made a great expansion with Stormblood, but did not upgrade the servers themselves to handle the flood of people that comes with the release of every expansion for every major game. You'd think that after the nightmare that was 2.0 release (i am not sure how 3.0 release went as i wasn't there), you'd think they'd at least put some extra ram in the servers to handle the extra load, lol.

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Originally Posted by stebo104

SE made a great expansion with Stormblood, but did not upgrade the servers themselves to handle the flood of people that comes with the release of every expansion for every major game. You'd think that after the nightmare that was 2.0 release (i am not sure how 3.0 release went as i wasn't there), you'd think they'd at least put some extra ram in the servers to handle the extra load, lol.

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apparently not, but be warned the brigade will com and get you

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Originally Posted by delukard7

apparently not, but be warned the brigade will com and get you

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Only because this identical thread is on the front page.

They learned that even with this crap, people will still pay for that FFXIV crack cocaine.

I'm sure that 5.0 will be better.

I mean, it only took Blizzard five expansions to release one without massive server crashes.

How can we be sure things have not improved since 3.0 launch? Yeah we're stuck outside an instance but how can we be sure that there wasn't an improvement, but not a big enough improvement that there was 0 issues? We already know that once this initial server stress is gone that the extra resources that were put in place to deal with server stress will be used to further upgrade our inventory again. I think that's a clear sign that things have improved since 3.0.

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Originally Posted by Gwendi

I'm sure that 5.0 will be better.

I mean, it only took Blizzard five expansions to release one without massive server crashes.

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I will remember this and not resub until after release.... I will remember this :@

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Originally Posted by Doki

They learned that even with this crap, people will still pay for that FFXIV crack cocaine.

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TBH subs for this game werent all that high. (just take a look at the treads from months ago, claiming about ghost towns)
Stormblood hype made many people comeback and retry the game, (i´m one of them)
But not many people tolerate this kind of problems and will probably leave after their free month, or sub time runs out.
I was liking heavensward, they really improved ARR, but having this kind of service 3 times sure is tiring

No they haven't learned. I seriously think they believe the game doesn't have the following it clearly does. Why are they surprised at so many people? At so many people TRYING TO DO CONTENT?! WHY? You hype us up for an expansion you better believe there are going to be lots and lots of players! Blizzard learned their lesson after the failure that was Warlords of Draenor. Yoshi even said he liked Legion, so hence that means he at least follows what's going on with them. So he should know then the consequences of hyping players up.

Now we're going to go through the same tired motions of before. We get mad at the Early Access/Launch. Then we manage to finally play, get mad at things that probably should have been beta tested and then end up playing anyways.

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Originally Posted by SicariusSeven

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Legion only worked because they changed how the entire game worked in open world content. Everyone is always being phased into different instances of the same zones, so you can barely ever see anyone.

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Originally Posted by Ayer2015

I will remember this and not resub until after release.... I will remember this :@

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Another way to reduce the population of Balmung.

They certainly didn't learn to talk to us. Just tell us how things are looking. Blizzard took to getting hourly updates. If you have to tell us "Sorry, we are still fixing, it will take serverl hours" that is fine. People can log off and get on with their life. Now you left them with "Yeeeahh, go try if you want, might work, might not..." leaving people in uncertainty and growing frustration.

Just be honest with your customers.

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Originally Posted by Gwendi

Legion only worked because they changed how the entire game worked in open world content. Everyone is always being phased into different instances of the same zones, so you can barely ever see anyone.

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That's completely and totally untrue. The game is one giant mega-server with sharding. But there are mods that quickly find you a party for anything you are doing and move you to the correct shard seemlessly(no loading) to put you with full raids of people taking down world objectives. The worlds are heavily populated and you see people all over, but they tried to keep each shard limited to a certain number of players to reduce server stress. It's the model that a lot of games have moved towards and it works great.

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Originally Posted by Rhysati

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We must have had very different experiences with the weeks leading up to and immediately following Legion. I remember people disappearing and reappearing at random, being shafted into empty copies of Stormwind, and an entire protest movement from the roleplaying community that went all of nowhere because Blizzard was too focused on how great their sharding was that they ignored the damage it did to the RP community.

It's true that it reduced server stress a lot (and holy crap there was a ton of stress before they patched sharding into the main cities), but it wasn't a perfect solution.
(Also when players have to make addons to fix the game for the devs, that's not a good thing.)

They learned that people will throw a fit for the first few days till the bottlenecking sorts out then totally forget about it for the next 2 years.

In other words, they're not going to waste the money for such a temporary thing. It's bad business sense. The amount of people who would unsub over this sort of thing is incredibly tiny.

3.0 wasn't too bad. At the beginning there were a lot of dc's and stuff, but didn't run into too many problems after that.

3.0 wasn't nearly as bad, the issues were contained to the large population servers. Still, the answer is no. Considering they let the Data Centers get even more congested, then decided a bunch of solo instances right at the start of the expansion was a good idea.

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Originally Posted by Conando

3.0 wasn't nearly as bad, the issues were contained to the large population servers. Still, the answer is no. Considering they let the Data Centers get even more congested, then decided a bunch of solo instances right at the start of the expansion was a good idea.

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It'd probably help if they put Balmung and Gilgamesh into different data centers.

welcome to thread #328

Please create more threads because we have no idea what's going on.

I think the big question is has the community not learned anything? Like this happens with every big name game launch people. Like all of them. I'm sure all you armchair developers should continue to give your on point feedback though so they can continue to improve.