Faster you die, faster you level up

Am I reading the patch notes correctly in that EXP will be available in ranked Feast matches? Do they even play this game?

If not only dealing with tome farmers was bad enough, now they'll reward them with easy EXP too?

Looking forward to people leveling their healers and not actually healing so they can get back into their near-instant queues for quick EXP.

GG Pvp Dev team...

easy xp? 300/150 xp from feast is good xp?

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Originally Posted by Sunako

easy xp? 300/150 xp from feast is good xp?

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You are mistaking PvP XP with job XP. Reread and try again.

For all we know, exp earned in a match is based on duration. Just.Wait.

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Originally Posted by Chevronone

You are mistaking PvP XP with job XP. Reread and try again.

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you did not mention either how much xp rate is?

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Originally Posted by Sunako

you did not mention either how much xp rate is?

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They've always awarded pvp xp...I didnt think I needed to state my rant concerns job XP. Sorry about that :/

Job XP rate tbd. Koltik is correct in waiting...who knows what fun surprises awaits us. -_-

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Originally Posted by Chevronone

They've always awarded pvp xp...I didnt think I needed to state my rant concerns job XP. Sorry about that :/

Job XP rate tbd. Koltik is correct in waiting...who knows what fun surprises awaits us. -_-

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Well you dont even know how much pvp will give you xp so why already start crying about it? There is not flat number anywhere.

Bemoan kOTE=Sunako;4198897]Well you dont even know how much pvp will give you xp so why already start crying about it?[/QUOTE]

Because I'm dramatic, duh

Because I'm dramatic, duh[/QUOTE]

Actually wolves den bring you job xp already in 2.1

Seize and Shatter are giving out 600k+ xp on a lvl 61 job. It gives LOTs of xp.

I haven't seen people being bad on purpose, though, but then again, I haven't been into The Feast.

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Originally Posted by Fernosaur

Seize and Shatter are giving out 600k+ xp on a lvl 61 job. It gives LOTs of xp.

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Mhm, seems it scales very well with level.

A shatter at level 30 only nets you around 50k. I wanted to check if the armory bonus applies, but... by the time I got that thought, I got booted >_>

It scales very well indeed. I've just been doing PvP all afternoon because there's an Instance in the MSQ that's glitched and my whole server is pretty much stuck, lol.

I am loving the PvP changes, though. I think it was a great redesign- really hope people play it more and it becomes more prominent.

I think the PvP changes are fantastic, and for the first time since starting in 2.x I really want to PvP. I don't understand why Light Party was removed from the Feast, though, it would have been fun to play on a team with friends.

Sadly this experience issue turned out to be true. You now have everyone queueing healer and just not even casting or only using 1 ability to get the match over with as soon as possible. 8v8's are even worse.

Didn't like the changes at first but I'm getting used to it and it's fun to me now.

This thread's concerns are 100% true, though. People are going in and sitting in base or just running into enemy territory like headless chickens just to get killed. This whole "get xp through PvP" thing ain't gonna work for more than one or two weeks :/

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Originally Posted by Fernosaur

This thread's concerns are 100% true, though.

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Can confirm, for the feast at least. Frontlines seemed no different than usual, though I do think the XP scaling should be nerfed - At level 50, you get around 150-160k for a frontline (With no bonis) and it takes around the time a PotD 51-60 would, which gives 210-220k (without bonus). That's dangerously close together.
Likewise, a Feast match gave me 40-50k at 50 (On a loss). That's two MSQs or around 4 FATEs worth and around a fourth of the PotD value.

I'd say first step is to nerf the XP. Do they even have a fall-off for loss like for wolf marks and PvP XP? Because if not, that'd be the very first thing to do. It was clear when the idea first came up that it can't be allowed to be efficient and the numbers so far look far too efficient to me.

a little reminder : the problem is not the rewards or the game but the players abusing.
where is the black list in duty finder ?

I prefer healing after the changes (gives more time to play aggressive than before), but SMN feels absolutely gutted lol. All the whistles and bells but none of the end product. Having one button for all your minion stuff feels... off.

It needs to either scale based on duration, or be removed. It won't work like this. SE has way too much faith in humanity, I can't believe that they implemented it like they did.

My biggest disappointment in this is that SE finally does something for the benefit of PvPers - after near-neglect for the course of ARR and Heavensward - and PvE players are the ones to largely abuse it and be so "toxic" towards it.

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Originally Posted by ThirdChild_ZKI

My biggest disappointment in this is that SE finally does something for the benefit of PvPers - after near-neglect for the course of ARR and Heavensward - and PvE players are the ones to largely abuse it and be so "toxic" towards it.

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Of course, it was the same with when Feast was first introduced. People would queue for light party, naked, run to middle, and stand together all grouped up. Why? They wanted their minion. They wanted their tomes.