The current course for FFXIV.

I just wanted to take the time to provide some feedback on my overall experience with FFXIV. I wasn't really sure where to put this, but I hope this is an appropriate enough spot.

I've played FFXI since NA release and I have played FFXIV since alpha. FFXIV certainly is not without faults, but more and more are overcome with each successive patch. The outline set for Version 2.0 is certainly a clear commitment to the players and no small endeavor to undertake. I wanted to express that I am very satisfied with the work of both the development teams and the community staff.

I don't post often on the boards, but I read them frequently. It's clear that the community has extremely high standards for your work and remains consistently vigiliant for details to voice opinion on the many decisions that have to be made. Inviting the community to voice their opinion on unfinalized ideas appears as if it can be frustrating at times. I give you all the more credit for continuing your commitment to hearing us, even if it can at times be harsh in its judgement. It is meaningful that your community is part of your process.

As a fan and a customer I wanted to thank you for remaining committed to making this game the best you can. I hope that even though the most vocal members of the community can be the most critical, this message can remind you that while it may not be said often enough, we support you. Thank you very much for all your hard work, and happy holidays!

I would also like to thank SE for their hard work, this game is definitely going in the right direction.

Agreed, the new skills and traits seems to make the jobs a class of it's own and unique. Great job SE!

This. We need more posts like these, the dev team works hard, and deserves the praise!

Amen!
Thank you, everyone at SE for all you have been doing to fix this game. :) If you didn't already have my undying loyalty before, you have it now. :D

couldnt have said it better myself. we may have been of to a rocky start and even when you guys had to power down you still didnt give up and you always keeped us up to date with what was going on, i never played a game with a company that likes to involes everyone who is playing and not playing the game. take there feedback and works on it, as well you talk to everyone who plays the game you guys are doing a great job and i hope you have a great hoilday.

Hooray SE!

I don't like the direction this game is heading to.
It's about to become FFXI-2, and that's not the kind of game I hoped FFXIV would be and neither a game I want to play.
Still though, I know many FFXIV players are FFXI veterans and like it this way, and Yoshi-P and his team have made a great effort to fix this game and turn it into something the community will like.
That's great and I think they are doing a good job, it's just no longer a game I want to play.

I'm with Atoli. The direction the game is heading is not what I bought the game for. I do like FFXI, but I'm not interested in a FFXI-2.

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Originally Posted by Ilisidi

I'm with Atoli. The direction the game is heading is not what I bought the game for. I do like FFXI, but I'm not interested in a FFXI-2.

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I'm with you 2. This is neither the game i bought nor i wanted. IMO if they want this one to be FFXIV then the original one should be offered as a different game so, when 2.0 migration come we would have the option to choose where we would want to migrate to.

I've been asking the restoration of the original FFXIV as a spin-off for a while already...the more people support the idea the better the chance of this happening (won't happen before march tough since Tanaka is busy reworking FFXI contents to fit the lv99).

I support the return of the original FFXIV as a spin-off game. For those who would think the original FFXIV sucked, just read what we was planned to january of this year (2011):

http://lodestone.finalfantasyxiv.com...bd4263ed466626

We would have DB, MW expansion, drag and drop feature, hamlet defense, repeatable quests...all this not only now, but for nearly an year already. IMO the 2 games are already 85% different...once the map changes happen they will be 2 completely different games so why not having both going?

IMO the best thing SE can do right now is actually resuming the original FFXIV to keep those who liked it but don't like FFXI or the way the current FFXIV is going.

I really liked the any class can use any ability approach... I'm a bit upset about the limiting.

Are we absolutely sure that these changes are really going to make the game better or are they just going to make it more fun for a few people? So far this post seems to be about 50/50. I would be interested in checking this out later to actually see who says anything about liking these changes.

Changing the game into something more FFXI-like may not be the way to approach it at this point... I know that there aren't very many users, but have we considered the possibility that the only real issue with the game may have been the lack of quests and dungeon crawls? I was really getting into this game after being away for a while and then the game changed completely.

I'll probably give it a go for a while and maybe the changes will evolve into something more flexible, but I lost a LOT of stuff that I had accumulated over the last year or so. I've been pretty happy with the content changes and all the extra stuff that has gone into the game until now. Changing the foundation at this point seems a bit extreme.

Maybe it would have been better to simply add to the existing instead of revamping the entire system? I don't know that focused classes are the way to go. It may make the game too much like FFXI... I mean, are we going to get sub-jobs next? I would rather have the original system coupled with challenging group play than what it appears that it is turning into at this very moment. I may find it tolerable if the number of abilities goes up significantly and maybe the spread of what can swap between other jobs is expanded, but right now it is a bit stifling compared to what it was just 2 days ago...

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I really liked the any class can use any ability approach... I'm a bit upset.
Are we absolutely sure that these changes are really going to make the game better or are they just going to make it more fun for the few people who spam the polls? That may not be the way to approach it at this point... I know that there aren't very many users, but have we considered that the only real issue with the game may have been the lack of quest and end-game content, dungeon crawls etc?

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Yes, it will make the GAME better. That's not to say troo ef ef faenz care about that sort of thing.

I didn't mean to sound rude. I edited my post to not be so insulting. Sorry about that.

don't get me wrong, I'm still a fan and my curiosity will most likely keep me playing for a while at least...

Don't worry, that was a general statement.

Think about it like this: the more freedom you have, the more factors there are to balance when designing the game. but the designers themselves are only human. They can't design a great Game if the amount of possible factors is overwhelming. Sure, we the players have more freedom to dictate how to play the game, but the actual "game" part of the experience will be underwhelming.

This is why toning things down creates an environment where the developers can design a better game, if more restrictive. I'm not sure if you noticed, but the content before the changes was rather trivial sadly.

Well, this depends. I don't see the game getting any better with these changes. IMO at every patch that comes it gets more limited, poorer in nearly every aspect, less responsible and worse to play.

I don't like this path and i can see this game ending subdued by FFXI over time. I really already am waiting 2.0 as a "FFXI-2: Now with retard mode".

Comparing this one with other FFXI is like comparing FFXIII with others offline FFs...it has better graphics, but a really bad battle system and a terribly shallow development. After 1.20 i can't see this game getting any better than mediocre...

I posted a 'goodbye FFXIV' post on my blog briefly explaining the reasons I was leaving the game after billing starts.

One of those happens to be because it's turning into FFXI-2.

If anyone wants to read it: http://lodestone.finalfantasyxiv.com...entry?e=284811

I cannot stress it enough: I am seriously disappointed with how FFXIV has been turning out ever since the dev teams changed.

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Well, this depends. I don't see the game getting any better with these changes. IMO at every patch that comes it gets more limited, poorer in nearly every aspect, less responsible and worse to play.

I don't like this path and i can see this game ending subdued by FFXI over time. I really already am waiting 2.0 as a "FFXI-2: Now with retard mode".

Comparing this one with other FFXI is like comparing FFXIII with others offline FFs...it has better graphics, but a really bad battle system and a terribly shallow development. After 1.20 i can't see this game getting any better than mediocre...

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You are entitled to your opinion; it is too bad that it is a wrong one.

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You are entitled to your opinion; it is too bad that it is a wrong one.

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Just because you like the game doesn't mean it's better. It's a stupidity supporting a game when the quality does down patch after patch...nearly no change done was for better.

Also, it's sad seeing that this game is fated to be at shadow of FFXI forever because it will never be match to FFXI in any aspect other than graphics. 2.0 will be no more than a bad joke to anyone who actually happen to be masochist enough to stay until then.

Sometimes i think they actually are screwing up the game on purpose so if 2.0 happen to be acceptable in quality, it will be a so noticeable improvement if compared to current one that it will actually look good.

But the thing is...this will work only for those that actually use the current game as reference. For those using FFXI, WoW or other good MMO as reference, 2.0 might still be crappy as hell.