SE please disable dps stance for tanks in pve

Like healers cannot use cleric stance in pvp tanks leaving defensive stance for a dps stance should be locked out of the stance when entering duty finder/raid finder. These silly posts about tanks being dps makes balancing harder and maybe having it disabled in all pve content would help ease the dev burden.

These threads really need to stop. They are not funny anymore.

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Originally Posted by Vivi_Bushido

These threads really need to stop. They are not funny anymore.

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Actually he may be on to something. The devs may very well move in this direction to appease the lowest common denominator. While their at it they should also remove Ninja Sting of the Wasp and Viper and just make the buffs passive boosts that are always on. Make it so all Bard songs are always on. Enochian will already always be on sort of, don't need it to use fire / blizzard iv anymore. This is the game people wanted so now they'll get it.

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Originally Posted by Ashua

Like healers cannot use cleric stance in pvp tanks leaving defensive stance for a dps stance should be locked out of the stance when entering duty finder/raid finder. These silly posts about tanks being dps makes balancing harder and maybe having it disabled in all pve content would help ease the dev burden.

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this is crazy talk dude, u act like all dps are just pushing out incredible numbers Im sure a good bit of time tanks in dps stance make all the difference

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Originally Posted by DaikiKiyoshi

While their at it they should also remove Ninja Sting of the Wasp and Viper and just make the buffs passive boosts that are always on.

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I thought they did remove the ninja poisons?

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Originally Posted by seraseth

I thought they did remove the ninja poisons?

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They are removing them in SB, you're correct.

I agree. I think tanks should be locked into their tank stances when entering Duty Finder or Raid Content. The only reason tanks were given damaging abilities was so that they could do solo content instead of having to rely on partying up with DPS classes. I think the community has perverted the true meaning of a TANK role and the DPS meta shouldn't have ever happened.

Tanks are here to TANK. Not DPS. If we remove DPS from tanks(and healers) then those lazy DPS will have to do their jobs properly.

If we want to take it one step further and properly represent what a real TANK should look like, we should replace all skills with damage and damage bonus with Pose Emotes that purely increase enmity and Defense bonuses respectively.

PLD Swords, WAR greataxes and DRK greatswords should be replaced with Shields to make them look like real tanks. We could even scrap DRK and redesign it as a DPS as how it should be.

This is really becoming a new level of pettiness.

Seriously............
It's time to stop

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Originally Posted by whiteblade89

They are removing them in SB, you're correct.

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Oh I didn't know they removed them....well this makes me feel awkward and kinda disappointed at the same time. I sort of meant it as sarcasm. e_e


Guess this confirms they really are appealing specifically to the lowest common denominator now.
Shine on SE...shine on.

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Holy flipping Moses. Enough already.

The flood of posts telling someone to stop posting are worse than the new threads on the subject xP Why bump something if you want it to go away?

I've always liked the idea of tanks and healers not really worrying about dealing damage, but the game isn't designed around tanking and healing needing our full attention. I would love it to be so, but until it is we have to play the game as it is designed.

Have fun dealing with bosses in anything that requires more than one tank when the boss starts spinning in circles because it keeps changing target while all the tanks are locked into tank stance

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Originally Posted by Dijana

Have fun dealing with bosses in anything that requires more than one tank when the boss starts spinning in circles because it keeps changing target while all the tanks are locked into tank stance

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That's what provoke and enmity rotations are for.

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Originally Posted by Ashua

Like healers cannot use cleric stance in pvp tanks leaving defensive stance for a dps stance should be locked out of the stance when entering duty finder/raid finder. These silly posts about tanks being dps makes balancing harder and maybe having it disabled in all pve content would help ease the dev burden.

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-_- you just don't get it do you!

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Originally Posted by Dijana

Have fun dealing with bosses in anything that requires more than one tank when the boss starts spinning in circles because it keeps changing target while all the tanks are locked into tank stance

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^^^100%!this!^^^

Actually I would probably quit tanking out of petty spite if they did that. One of my favourite things to do is try to maintain dps stance as MT and keep aggro. ESPECIALLY if I get one of those healers who is lazy as hell, to help give them something to do.

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Originally Posted by RLofOBFL

Actually I would probably quit tanking out of petty spite if they did that. One of my favourite things to do is try to maintain dps stance as MT and keep aggro. ESPECIALLY if I get one of those healers who is lazy as hell, to help give them something to do.

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Not saying it a bad thing, but if I was your healer and you did it just to make me do more, I'd let you die =^^=

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Originally Posted by Hazuki87

Not saying it a bad thing, but if I was your healer and you did it just to make me do more, I'd let you die =^^=

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He's saying he'd do it if he had a lazy healer. So he wouldn't be doing it to you for the sole purpose of making you work harder, unless you are a lazy healer. Which, if you are letting someone in your party (especially your tank) die out of spite I'd say you're already a bad healer.

While we're at it let's change healer damage to Dex and STR and Nerf all offensive spells to a full 5 potency!

Part of the reason I tank with DRK was because I could DPS and Tank stance at the same time. Of course some of my defensive abilities also relied on my DPS stance being on to begin with.

If you think the tanks shouldn't be able to any DPS, what do you think they suppose to do when they aren't tanking then? The standard trial and raid doesn't just have 1 tank but 2. Do they just get to AFK?

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Originally Posted by Ariane

If you think the tanks shouldn't be able to any DPS, what do you think they suppose to do when they aren't tanking then? The standard trial and raid doesn't just have 1 tank but 2. Do they just get to AFK?

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That was 2.x, but now in 4.x we just don't allow them to enter df/rf/pf at all, much better idea instead of removing the dps stance for pve content. Sorry OP if that was the next topic you wanted to open, thought I help you out here.

I honestly can't tell if the OP is serious or is just trolling; I hope it is the latter when considering how a number of skills require one stance or the other.

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Originally Posted by Ashua

Like healers cannot use cleric stance in pvp tanks leaving defensive stance for a dps stance should be locked out of the stance when entering duty finder/raid finder. These silly posts about tanks being dps makes balancing harder and maybe having it disabled in all pve content would help ease the dev burden.

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May be make the game 5 skill for all classes then its even more easy

How about we just ban all mention of these threads and the people who insist of creating them? I like that plan better!

People are really going overboard with this.. isnt is bout time they stopped tantruming n just waited to see how thier job plays,?

This is just a theory, but, they could keep a stance to tank, and make the off stance (dps stance) like the cleric stance extra added dps bonus. This way, you're still always in tank stance as a tank, but the darkside for drk would be like a dps increase for 1 minute or less, warrior with Deliverance and Sword oath for pld. The tank stance will remain the same, but the dps stance of it would be like a extra added berserk to the game. Not saying I want this, just a theory how it could work.

Though I also find it to be a dumb idea, since as tank stance, in an instance as low as void ark, ive actually ripped hate off a MT while in tank stance and using the off combo for drk Hard slash > Syphon Strike > Soul eater (with and without using dark arts in between) lol.

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Originally Posted by Spawnie

People are really going overboard with this.. isnt is bout time they stopped tantruming n just waited to see how thier job plays,?

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Never!

We must continue to beat that dead horse. It's not going to beat itself.

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Oh heellll yeeeah!
Seeing how WHM retained the ability to DPS without a stance at all, how about we remove tank stances alltogether and just make them passive boosts?
Passive +25% HP, +20% Healing Received, +5% DMG.
And then we combine skills, GIMME DAT BEAST CLEAVE! :D 500 pot -20% dmg and 100% HP absorbed /drool

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Originally Posted by Vivi_Bushido

These threads really need to stop. They are not funny anymore.

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This

It really is getting boring and annoying. These kids need to grow up.

Just report all of them who make that spamm threads cause they cant grow up.
Maybe SE will actually do oneday something about it eventhough i dont have much hope for that.
I mean the one making those threads not rly give a good light about ther fraction when they salty like a little kid go on and make such threads just cause yoshida doesnt agree with them, but jeah like i said in another one of those threads and there there they go and say the WoW Comm is bad xD atleast they yell at each other and dont sulk like a baby.