Atonement Healing

With all of the healing DPS meta discussions going on, it got me thinking of Disc Priest in WoW. I think it would be fun if FFXIV added a job that works under a similar mechanic.

For those unaware. atonement healing works like this... The healer has a few weak healing abilities that apply a buff on an ally that lasts for a set period of time (in wow, it lasts 15 seconds, or 10 GCD's). While that ally has that buff, all damage done by the healer is converted some % healing to the person with the buff. This works pretty well when you can apply atonement buffs to a large number of people and then spread out DoTs, resulting in pretty good AoE HoTs. They also have long CD, high damage abilities that work like long CD heals.

It's a very unique playstyle, and I think it would fit well into FFXIV. If the devs are looking for new ideas for a healer that doesn't just take one of the current healers with a new skin, I think this would be a good one.

I'm honestly a bit surprised WHM didn't get something similar to this. With the introduction of confession stacks I was expecting some kind of mechanic where we could stack those on other targets, tag the tank in some way and a percentage of all heals on the tank would filter to everyone with stacks. I wouldn't want them ripping off WoW directly by taking the whole 'dps attached to healing' thing but I think that was the right way to use a stack mechanic.

Ugh no I would not want that on WHM. We're already getting something annoying with Confession, making WHM have WoW's atonement healing would just drive me away from WHM.

I like the fact that WHM is straight forward. There's heal buttons and dps buttons. Someday hopefully we'll get a "party-wide dps buff" button.

I don't want WHM to become complicated or have a hectic playstyle like atonement.

I'd still like to see a TP healer, which heals through using damage skills.... though at this point I'm not sure SE can balance their current healers

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Originally Posted by Nicodemus_Mercy

Ugh no I would not want that on WHM..

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Yeah, my preference would be to make a new job with this mechanic. While I love this design, it's a bit hard for everyone to get into. I wouldn't want to ruin other jobs for some people by making such a drastic change.

Has that atonement thing actually been working out for them? The last time I played discipline was really struggling because they had a hard time balancing a healer/dps like disc. That's probably a good part of why SE would be hesitant to do something similar.

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Originally Posted by Elamys

Has that atonement thing actually been working out for them? The last time I played discipline was really struggling because they had a hard time balancing a healer/dps like disc. That's probably a good part of why SE would be hesitant to do something similar.

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Some people dislike it, but some people really like it. As for balance, that's a widespread problem in WoW. They're constantly nerfing/buffing every tank/healer/dps spec, and it's not limited to Disc.

Disc can be very strong, but has a steep learning curve. It's definitely not for everyone, but it's a lot of fun.

I guess that's true, but it's rare for balance to be so skewed like it was. But it may have gotten better with gear. I'm a shadow/holy main at heart but I have like 5 priests so I should really play disc more lol. Maybe if I ever pick WoW up again.

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Originally Posted by Kaurie

With all of the healing DPS meta discussions going on, it got me thinking of Disc Priest in WoW. I think it would be fun if FFXIV added a job that works under a similar mechanic.

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Yes, please.

/signed 6+ year discipine priest

Maybe not a full-out atonement mechanic but a simpler mechanic that converts a percentage of damage done by a single spell into healing would be nice. I'm thinking around the lines of Druids' Dream of Cenarius in WoW:
"Increases Wrath damage by 20% and your Wrath spell causes a nearby ally to be healed for 150% of the damage done."
In a situation where damage taken is not too high, a WHM could heal the tank by throwing stones at the boss.

It would be nice but it will never happen in this game with how adamant they are about healers not needing to DPS. I would be pleasantly shocked if they made a job like this in 14.

So it's kinda like using Bloodbath but giving the healing to party members instead of yourself? Sound kinda fun ^.^ I'd be down for that.
Although like others have said, it would probably be a nightmare to balance XD

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Originally Posted by Rinion

So it's kinda like using Bloodbath but giving the healing to party members instead of yourself? Sound kinda fun ^.^ I'd be down for that.
Although like others have said, it would probably be a nightmare to balance XD

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No more than the balancing job they are doing now, which you can take however you want. ;) It's incredibly fun, IMHO.

Interesting idea considering the DPS potential WHM will have. Thin Air + Presence of Mind = Mouth Sex

I was thinking of writing up an idea similar to this for the Oracle. Using a combination of ideas from the Runemaster of LoTRO and the Chloromancer from RIFT (I'm not very familiar with WoW because I rather did not like it when I tried it out)

I don't want something as complex as Atonement. I just think they should remove Cleric Stance from the healer role pool, make it a passive buff for WHM and when its on (always) you heal nearby allies for say 20% of damage done. This would put more weight on WHM's already good personal DPS and give them more free time to contribute damage. Also perhaps tie in damaging skills with lilies.

Dancer from the final fantasy series has always felt like a damage healer to me. Maybe next expansion they could get abilities like the ones that Disc Priest and mist monk use in world of Warcraft. They can even make them similar to RDM jumping in and out of melee range.

So, what you are saying is you want a Dancer like FFXI with its Drain Samba?

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Originally Posted by Brightshadow

Dancer from the final fantasy series has always felt like a damage healer to me. Maybe next expansion they could get abilities like the ones that Disc Priest and mist monk use in world of Warcraft. They can even make them similar to RDM jumping in and out of melee range.

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I would be on that like white on rice. You could even add in a bit of old HPal and have a mana regen mechanic from melee hits.

Drain samba is one ability there are many ways a dancer type DPS healer can work.

Dancer should be a dps and support role.

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Originally Posted by Brightshadow

Dancer from the final fantasy series has always felt like a damage healer to me.

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The thing is, is that while I agree Dancer being a Healer job would be cool, Dancer has rarely ever been a healing base class. Its almost always been Supportive DPS with Dances being Debuffs/Status inducing skills and/or Damage skills.